Post B4yFGle2k0oQnohVI0 by Yokappa@baraag.net
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 (DIR) Post #B4yFGle2k0oQnohVI0 by Yokappa@baraag.net
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       Rev and chibi should stop talking about loli, their arguments are incredible retarded and honestly i hate how they use it to fuel the cultural war. There are loli artist from  all the political spectrum, is not a right or left thing.
       
 (DIR) Post #B4yFGlrVvvaVTb0GHo by beardalaxy@gameliberty.club
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       @Yokappa I don't watch chibi and I haven't watched rev in a while but every time I've seen him talk about loli it's been detached from culture war stuff even though that's what he normally does. Do you have a specific example or are you just annoyed that he talks about it?
       
 (DIR) Post #B4yFGnNSIejSAwxHiC by Yokappa@baraag.net
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       Im tired :cheems:
       
 (DIR) Post #B4yI89Sz6SmlwM6xxQ by Ice_Vmp@baraag.net
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       @Yokappa I agree with this, it's not only that though, a lot of the arguments they make about loli are just flawed, loli being a body type is just one part of the whole thing, but it's still tied to age, although it's still in the realm of fantasy, it's more like ageplay/roleplay kind of thing.
       
 (DIR) Post #B4yI89tvUIKvHuiTx2 by beardalaxy@gameliberty.club
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       @Ice_Vmp @Yokappa I wouldn't say loli is related to age at all actually, at least at its core, because a 3 year old that looks like a hag is not a loli but a 9000 year old that looks like a loli is.
       
 (DIR) Post #B4z0R0awhwP9uWdZ7w by Ice_Vmp@baraag.net
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       @beardalaxy @Yokappa It's because what you're looking at isn't the actual age but the perceived age in what lolicon is as a fantasy, you want to perceive the character as a certain aged body type, that's why some of us consider "loli oppai" as something ridiculous.In reality those rules rarely apply, that's why loli stays in fantasy but there's still a loli-type.
       
 (DIR) Post #B4z0R1B6XVKPifYRUG by matana@baraag.net
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       @Ice_Vmp  @beardalaxy  I used to believe that age makes the loli, too, but then I saw that the majority of Umihara Kawase doujins were lolicon despite the titular character being of age and having bazonkasso now I think it's just about the cute factor, the cuter, the loli-er
       
 (DIR) Post #B4zRldCHaoeKBg9w8m by onemuri@baraag.net
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       @Yokappa I don't know what happens overseas. In Japan, during 70s and 80s the left was pushing censorship against loli culture, there was an organization of "parents againts manga" they even burned hundreds of books inside schools, however by the end of 80s the right was more interested on censorship, many attempts to prohibit  were made, nowadays the left came back again, but this time with feminists who are against animanga & also gravure magazines. i am against censors of any kind (L or R)