Post B4crJ4KhkhXi7e3rXc by gmh@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #B4cei5nCAEQCU5zOvg by omgubuntu@floss.social
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Bit of a left-field PSA this, but… if you own an iPhone/iPad in the UK and:- you DON'T own a credit card- you DON'T have a driving license- you have NOT had your Apple account for more than 18 years…don't upgrade to iOS 26.4 if you want to install (or some cases, use) 17+ rated apps or stream 18+ films/tv on itvX, netflix, etc.The update adds mandatory OS-level age verification to meet UK law and Apple doesn't currently accept passports (!) to prove age.#Apple #iOS26
(DIR) Post #B4cezaFMBn2frLVCK0 by AdamBishop@floss.social
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@omgubuntu 🤦♂️😩
(DIR) Post #B4cffUb9a2ACVHgHzM by omgubuntu@floss.social
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I'm not sharing this to argue the merits/flaws in the Online Safety Act or similar legislation as a general point or Apple complying – it has to; it's law – but signpost a specific real-world edge case…I don't drive, and I've never owned a credit card. Suddenly that makes me 17 again (hurrah),While it's always flattering when people assume I'm younger than I am, it's rather unfunny to be unable to use apps or services I pay for...
(DIR) Post #B4chaFyohf3dcsNec4 by baiteh@layer8.space
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@omgubuntu my iPad just rebooting after the installation, lol. Oh well.
(DIR) Post #B4cj7bCKw55KwXAPq4 by yassie_j@labyrinth.zone
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Good to know that you can’t use an iPad for the purpose you bought it for because you don’t have a credit agreement or you can’t get a driving licenceRE: https://floss.social/@omgubuntu/116290944467277433
(DIR) Post #B4cqlJ4MSLqTyrJkzA by Npars01@mstdn.social
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@omgubuntu When #PrinceBonesaw pays for a state surveillance platform, there are no half-measures.https://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-arabia-crown-prince-visits-apple-google-2018-4https://www.businessinsider.com/absher-google-slammed-for-siding-with-saudi-government-app-2019-3https://www.businessinsider.com/absher-politicians-demand-apple-google-end-investigation-into-saudi-app-2019-2https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/10/24/every-iphone-user-is-tied-to-saudi-business-interests-like-it-or-nothttps://www.businessinsider.com/tim-cook-peter-thiel-rupert-murdoch-met-with-bin-salman-2020-1https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/03/29/saudi-crown-prince-socially-acceptable-war-criminal-enjoys-us-tour-hosted-americashttps://theintercept.com/2018/04/24/mohammed-bin-salman-mbs-saudi-arabia-yemen-war-crimes/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/sunday-review/mbs-hacking.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/business/dealbook/jeff-bezos-hack-saudis.htmlhttps://www.businessinsider.com/apple-google-shameful-part-in-saudi-system-absher-2019-8https://www.businessinsider.com/absher-google-refuses-to-remove-saudi-govt-app-that-tracks-women-2019-3https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/apple-to-scan-u-s-iphones-for-images-of-child-abusehttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/02/opinion/sway-kara-swisher-julie-cordua-ashton-kutcher.html
(DIR) Post #B4crJ4KhkhXi7e3rXc by gmh@mastodon.social
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@omgubuntu In exactly the same boat here.I've had an iPhone and an Apple account since 2010.Got my first Apple laptop in 2004.Learned to nerd on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.5 (not counting the parental ZX81).However, I'm apparently a child, because I don't like the idea of living on credit and I think the private car isn't that great an idea.
(DIR) Post #B4crQECDToZOjtVLxA by aral@mastodon.ar.al
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@omgubuntu It doesn’t have to.It could decide to leave the UK market.Then the government would have to face a very disgruntled citizenry.Which is the sort of thing that might even bring down a government.But we’re talking about a trillion-dollar corporation. So, of course, they would comply.If the UK government told Tim Cook he had to shoot a puppy on live TV to stay in the UK, he’d do it, no questions asked and probably blame it on his fiduciary duty to shareholders or some shit.Fuck, I hate corporations.
(DIR) Post #B4cz37uxSKCCEwvZgm by only_ohm@mas.to
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@omgubuntu My understanding, FWIW, is that there is no such law currently on the UK statute book, nor imminently about to be on the UK statute book, and Apple are simply lying when they say UK law requires it.
(DIR) Post #B4czEJiXvOd81QSSh6 by omgubuntu@floss.social
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@only_ohm My bad; perhaps I'm inferring it's a requirement, when it's just Apple ass-covering. The fact OFCOM is giving quotes to the press about how pleased they are to see the age gating arrive, I assumed it was part and parcel of the OSA, compliance for which is overseen by OFCOM.Either way, it's frustrating.
(DIR) Post #B4d0Yqxi8EBysFuKFU by simonzerafa@infosec.exchange
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@omgubuntu Can confirm as my wife has this issue this evening following an iOS update.This wasn't indicated prior to the update that this would be happening.So what happens if you don't have a credit card or a passport (not everyone does)? 🤔
(DIR) Post #B4d15MebpymiQoTXMm by Foxhack@digipres.club
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@omgubuntu I know a couple of people who can't get age verified on Steam because they don't have a credit card. This is so dumb.
(DIR) Post #B4dHcT52Z1n3BXe4Lg by viralobscurity@mstdn.social
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@omgubuntu the final, most concrete and tech loyalist agnostic reason to never buy an apple device and wow, it's a big oneI know google will likely do this too but at least you don't need an account, have more control of the updates and can freeze/remove play services on android devices
(DIR) Post #B4e89iaB8wGARANzvs by Cadbury_Moose@wandering.shop
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@omgubuntu This moose has no valid photo-id (everything expired years ago, and the provisional driving licence was a sheet of paper only), but does have 3 credit (and 1 debit) cards. That said, I'm not prepared to put my ugly mug on t'Internet just to verify that I'm ancient and terrible. 3:O(>The iPhone is a model 7 (I think), so too backlevel for this idiocy anyway.
(DIR) Post #B4eHu3AroaR9D3iLyq by shwell@mastodon.au
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@omgubuntu More like a left wing PSA. Stop using it.
(DIR) Post #B4eWTgrXe4eBnJZ1DU by omgubuntu@floss.social
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@shwell I don't think politics comes into it. It's currently a pragmatic, overnight reality: the update may install itself, and UK users – where it's far more common to have never owned a credit card, nor drive – can't use valid ID to prove their age. The PSA is not, as the follow up notes, a grumble re: "why" age verification is now required to use Reddit or stream tv shows with naughty swears in, just a heads-up that without the items mentioned, folks can't."Stop using it" is moot.
(DIR) Post #B4eX1ITUpDgo0ELF4K by tomw@mastodon.social
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@celesteh @omgubuntu Yeah, that sucks. Actually I have had quite a similar experience living abroad without being able to get the ID that every authority expects you to have...In case I was misunderstood here, I am obviously not a supporter of ID verification requirements to use your phone, I just think the number of people who wouldn't be able to meet any of them (credit cards is just one option) is being over-hyped.
(DIR) Post #B4eX1Id4FdLUTuoszI by omgubuntu@floss.social
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@tomw @celesteh It's not "over-hyped" on my part. It's a sudden overnight reality. My PSA is just to let others who, like myself, *only* have a passport for ID, know if their iOS device updates they'll be subject to web filtering in all browsers, restricted in the apps they can open/use and be unable to stream shows with naughty words in. It may impact work or social life.—for now.I'm sure Apple will add additional verification methods in the UK. Until they do, 'forewarned' and all that…
(DIR) Post #B4fW1aWVob5RBRHro8 by shwell@mastodon.au
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@omgubuntu Politics is very relevant. There is a branch of politics that supports surveillance more so than the other. All the current 'updates', purportedly for issues like child safety are in reality moves to force surveillance on people. Gavin Newsom is championing 'age assurance' (Digital ID) for example.