Post B47pxkCPI7Dhk6gqZc by enigmatico@mk.absturztau.be
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 (DIR) Post #B47phnAQUKzOJZ9ng8 by natalie@my.softerhearts.club
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       One of the comments on the PRs implementing the OS age api I think is going to stick with me.The age api is required in like 3 states in the usa and brazil I think? I imagine the US one will catch like wildfire and be implemented in more states/federally, because surveillance state go brrrrrrrrrrrrPeople are concerned that they're going to get fined if these laws aren't implemented, which drives their apparent eagerness to get this implemented and merged in the for their LTS release. And likeI think one person had a good pointIf, say, Russia or China asked you to route all outgoing requests through their servers, would you? Would you do the same if the usa required it of you? If your answer to the first is no and the second yes, then you're either hoplessly naive or your state is coercing you and you should maybe consider resistance instead of compliance.
       
 (DIR) Post #B47pxkCPI7Dhk6gqZc by enigmatico@mk.absturztau.be
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       @natalie@my.softerhearts.club Totally agree. If what the Russians or the Chinese do is bad, then when the US or any other country does the same should be bad as well. I'm tired of the double morality standards. US good, everyone else bad. The only counter argument is that most of these companies and developers are on either the US or a US affiliated country and in doing so they could get arrested while if they don't comply with the Russian/Chinese politics they can't since they're out of their jurisdiction. Which is also a valid point.
       
 (DIR) Post #B47s2xXJKawASn59rU by natalie@my.softerhearts.club
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       @enigmatico@mk.absturztau.be Definitely, it's why I phrased it as resistance. There's risk to it. These kinds of projects, due to their nature are fairly distributed compared to tangible companies like canonical, redhat and system76. I'd argue that in most cases the government is not going to come after the individuals, especially of component projects (ie. Flatpak who's been highlighted recently) for non-compliance. But I don't know if that's actually based in reality and doesn't entirely mitigate the risk.I'm definitely not going to chastise anyone for being scared of the powers of the state(s) that have direct power of them though. It just hurts to see the eagerness in, and pushing aside of concerns about, effectively globalizing surveillance laws.