Post B43a3xw2l3ZoBP8osq by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
(DIR) More posts by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
(DIR) Post #B43V0lmkyUJPrTSDVw by q66@gts.q66.moe
3 likes, 7 repeats
i have a feeling that everyone who is arguing about LLMs in the sense of stuff like productivity, quality of the output, performance or functionality of generated code, largely even licensing or whatnot is kinda missing the pointeven if LLMs generated the best code in the world, i would not be using themeven if LLMs gave me the biggest ever productivity boost i would not be using themeven if the output was clean copyright-wise and fully original, i would still not be using themi can't consciously support a worldwide slop machine that helps and finances the rise of fascism, that helps further oppression, that helps a bunch of billionaires control public opinion, that drives society-wide psychosis with far-reaching consequences, that attempts to strip all joy from activities people like while using that to make the rich even richer, and that's not even getting to environmental stuff or whateveri'm getting left behind you saywell fuck your industry and fuck you
(DIR) Post #B43VAS4D8smdbMEd1M by lumi@snug.moe
0 likes, 0 repeats
@q66 there are so so many reasons too be against genai, and the quality one is one of the weakest, yeah
(DIR) Post #B43Yjzn82yoIC5swQi by rick@a.n0id.space
0 likes, 1 repeats
@q66 so true.. and what i really hate, is that more an more foss projects jump on that wagon too.. its becomming really hard to find software which codebase i can 'trust'
(DIR) Post #B43a3xw2l3ZoBP8osq by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
1 likes, 0 repeats
@q66 and the then-illegal extraction of creative humans’ works against consent and bringing the internet to the knees…… there’s just so many things wrong with the LLMs, every single one is pretty much enough to refuse them, indeed.well said
(DIR) Post #B43uhTIG6IFZoeeCdU by domi@donotsta.re
0 likes, 0 repeats
@q66 i’m not even using this shitty technology and i’m already paying the price in bandwidth and increased idle CPU usage on my infra. hecking pain.from the perspective of a sysadmin sharing stuff for free, I wouldn’t use LLMs even if all of the issues you listed were solved. ffs
(DIR) Post #B47EY6zgDoUkbdeSQq by reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden
0 likes, 1 repeats
@q66 even if you completely ignore the financial ties with technofascists, LLMs and other GenAI models are more or less responsible for a mass psychosis. You can't trust anyone or anything you see online, you can't trust the code powering our digital lives. People actively using these models are led to believe they're so much smarter while actively having their brains rotted because why bother having a brain if you can just ask ChatGPT or Claude or w/e for anything.Of course, you *can't* ignore the ties with technofascists because this is their work. Being able to just ask a chatbot for anything makes you unwilling to do any thinking yourself until you become unable to do it anymore. And at that point you're a slave to whoever owns the chatbots.
(DIR) Post #B47EjPMwFB1kmTuurw by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
0 likes, 0 repeats
@rick @q66 I noticed both NetBSD and Qemu on the slopfree list… qemu already has linux-user emulation when running on Linux, perhaps it should gain that when running on NetBSD, to avoid the Slopnux kernel but allow running your Linux binaries (with musl (also slopfree), of course)…
(DIR) Post #B47EnBelAWJzPW3S8O by fun@berkeley.edu.pl
1 likes, 1 repeats
@q66 I typically mention copyright issues, unproductivity and bad code to the uninitiated, but yes the issues with LLMs are deeper than just that.And personally, really I just .. like writing code myself?You can't be better served by anyone but yourself, that's the thing.
(DIR) Post #B47Ly8x2GZeXsvm59k by rick@a.n0id.space
0 likes, 0 repeats
@mirabilos @q66 there is a slopfree list?
(DIR) Post #B47NIQKTSsKJWmyKO0 by mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
1 likes, 0 repeats
@rick @q66 see Fedi thread https://shrimp.starlightnet.work/notes/ajkajgdut0e60njf