[HN Gopher] I didn't realize my LG TV was spying on me until I t...
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I didn't realize my LG TV was spying on me until I turned off this
setting
Author : fcpguru
Score : 42 points
Date : 2025-12-23 21:47 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.pocket-lint.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.pocket-lint.com)
| gnabgib wrote:
| Related - it's a lot of the brands: Hisense, LG, Samsung, Sony,
| TCL
|
| _Texas is suing all of the big TV makers for spying on what you
| watch_ (1258 points, 7 days ago, 641 points)
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46294456
| WarOnPrivacy wrote:
| "This setting" is called Live Plus. it's a
| feature on LG smart TVs that uses ACR (automatic content
| recognition) to analyze what's displayed on your screen.
| LG then uses that data to offer "personalized services,"
| including content recommendations and advertisements.
| bsmth wrote:
| I have an LG at home and I seem to remember it being the top
| device that appears in my pihole client list by number of blocked
| requests.
| turtletontine wrote:
| Have you turned off this setting too? Just curious if you've
| tried messing with the settings, and whether they actually
| change the TV's traffic patterns you see in the DNS sinkhole.
| Good experiment at the very least
| cluckindan wrote:
| "Valnet and our 346 technology partners ask you to consent..."
|
| Oh, the irony.
| userbinator wrote:
| 12 years ago:
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6759426
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6778397
| charcircuit wrote:
| >While it's frustrating that a setting like this exists in the
| first place
|
| I think it's a good thing that consumers are given a choice on
| whether they want it or not.
| 7373737373 wrote:
| It's not a choice if it's an underhanded default opt-in without
| knowledge, understanding or explicit consent
| ramses0 wrote:
| And it used to reset to "on" after random firmware updates.
| charcircuit wrote:
| Would you prefer there to be no setting os disable it?
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| I would prefer that the setting not exist because the
| functionality doesn't exist.
| cosmic_cheese wrote:
| I thought it was relatively common knowledge within technical
| circles to never give smart TVs an internet connection, but I
| suppose not.
|
| Also, it's worth noting that TVs built on Android TV have a
| massive advantage here in that you can plug them into your laptop
| and remove the content recognition package using adb (Android
| Debug Bridge) just like you might with a phone or tablet. This
| might be possible with Samsung Tizen and LG webOS devices too,
| but both are going to require more esoteric tooling.
| ekropotin wrote:
| What's the point in having smart TV without internet access?
| vel0city wrote:
| Well, there's little choice for TVs _without_ smart features
| these days. Especially if you 're wanting certain quality and
| other features.
| spudlyo wrote:
| You get a much cheaper TV. The folks who manufacture the TV
| expect to make a certain amount of revenue from your data, so
| they price this into the cost of the TV. This saves you from
| having to spend more money on a commercial display that often
| has a worse panel.
| cosmic_cheese wrote:
| The specs and quality of the panel, backlighting (if
| applicable), and image processing. These days, the few "dumb"
| TVs that are still sold are either cheap and bad or are
| designed for signage use and aren't well suited for
| TV/movies/games relative to their mass-market smart cousins.
|
| A smart TV used as a dumb TV alongside a quality streaming
| box (Apple TV or Nvidia Shield TV) or console gets you the
| best overall experience.
| hapticmonkey wrote:
| The best (in terms of image quality) consumer displays on the
| market right now are OLED TVs from LG and Samsung. But
| they're also "Smart" TVs.
|
| I keep mine disconnected and use an external media box
| (AppleTV 4K).
| imiric wrote:
| > Fortunately, once you've toggled Live Plus off, you no longer
| have to worry about your TV screen constantly being read to see
| what you're watching and to give you targeted ads.
|
| Eh, I wouldn't be so quick to let my guard down. Even if you
| trust that that toggle actually turns the functionality
| completely off, there's no guarantee that it won't be enabled
| again in the next update.
|
| Just keep your TV offline, as it always should be, and use it as
| a dumb display for trusted devices.
| thinkloop wrote:
| What's a trusted device to stream with?
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