[HN Gopher] Jony Ive's OpenAI Device Barred From Using 'io' Name
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       Jony Ive's OpenAI Device Barred From Using 'io' Name
        
       Author : thm
       Score  : 76 points
       Date   : 2025-12-05 16:48 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.macrumors.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.macrumors.com)
        
       | snafeau wrote:
       | I wonder why they're trying to establish separate branding for
       | hardware. Considering that OpenAI's strongest advantage right now
       | is the ChatGPT brand and they're anyway cutting efforts on other
       | products, wouldn't it make more sense to use the ChatGPT brand?
       | 
       | They certainly don't seem to have a problem with using the same
       | name repeatedly given the 300-or-so products called Codex at
       | OpenAI.
        
       | andrewmcwatters wrote:
       | It's such an uncreative name, anyway. It's like something you'd
       | read from a hardware engineering GitHub repository where the
       | author was oblivious to how searchable the intellectual property
       | would be.
        
       | rvz wrote:
       | Revenge is a dish best served icy cold.
        
       | johnwheeler wrote:
       | What is this OpenAI company I keep hearing about?
        
         | lawlessone wrote:
         | predictive text, real big again.
        
       | inopinatus wrote:
       | It's not too late to reverse direction and call it "Oi". Could
       | there be a more perfect verbal activation? They could get Jason
       | Statham or Vinnie Jones to do promotion.
        
         | yellow_lead wrote:
         | The device would be popular in England
        
           | stronglikedan wrote:
           | Also with 1990's American skinheads.
        
           | hendiatris wrote:
           | And Brasil, Portugal and other portuguese-speaking places
        
         | wmf wrote:
         | Oi mate, you got a loicense for that trademark?
        
           | hodgesrm wrote:
           | Not just trademarks! I can also picture Jason Statham getting
           | pretty bent out of shape about GPL violations.
        
         | platevoltage wrote:
         | I'm sure they could license some Cock Sparrer songs as well.
        
         | ricardonunez wrote:
         | Oi, tudo bem?
        
         | BigTTYGothGF wrote:
         | For further distinction you can put the guy's first initial in
         | there and call it a JOI.
        
       | dmix wrote:
       | I hadn't heard of iyO, their products look interesting. Seems to
       | be an Alexa type product via airpod style headphones?
       | https://www.iyo.ai/iyo-one
       | 
       | and some sort of 'wand' that can "see your surrounding area",
       | maybe radar or imaging? https://www.iyo.ai/iyo-wand
        
         | hundchenkatze wrote:
         | They don't mention a camera specifically, but it looks like the
         | Wand has a camera in the end of it.
         | 
         | And they mention "Holding and pressing the action button turns
         | the Privacy Light red and allows the agents to see anything you
         | point Wand at."
        
         | ruralfam wrote:
         | "Hey iyO, can you help me load your page faster?" Incredible
         | (on an older MBP).
        
       | arach wrote:
       | is yo taken?
        
         | morkalork wrote:
         | About a decade ago
        
         | striking wrote:
         | Yo definitely occupies an existing part of my mindspace.
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_(app)
        
           | wlesieutre wrote:
           | But imagine a modernized version of this where you can
           | leverage AI to say "yo" to people?
        
         | recursive wrote:
         | Yo MTV Raps beat them to trademark office.
        
         | zackmorris wrote:
         | Boyhood did it the same year:
         | 
         | https://x.com/hitRECordJoe/status/1378933672687067140
        
       | TZubiri wrote:
       | Ridiculous, of course io is standard for input output, or even
       | for on/off or even 1 and 0.
       | 
       | Hopefully this gets appealed, but it might be too late for this
       | product launch
        
         | livelaughlove69 wrote:
         | But openai presumably wants to trademark it too?
        
           | TZubiri wrote:
           | Oh, I assumed it was part of the product name rather than a
           | whole. Like Chat IO, or just the wake up call and vocative
           | name.
        
         | ameliaquining wrote:
         | From the article: "However, the ruling does not bar all uses of
         | the io name, only marketing and selling hardware similar to
         | iyO's."
        
       | grim_io wrote:
       | What even is this mysterious device?
       | 
       | A device trying to duplicate a part of smartphone/smartwatch
       | functionality is doomed to fail, as those can easily just be an
       | app on said devices.
       | 
       | So the computation part is likely out of the question.
       | Input/output remains, and there is really not much you can
       | innovate here.
       | 
       | Smartglasses? EarPod clones?
        
         | awestroke wrote:
         | It's just Ive being out of touch
        
           | ncr100 wrote:
           | Oi!
        
         | spicybbq wrote:
         | Reading about it, I see some characteristics: no screen,
         | possibly something you can carry in your pocket, possibly has
         | ai-driven awareness of its environment.
         | 
         | OpenAI wants to get into the hardware business, so they came up
         | with something. Is it going to be something people actually
         | want? I am skeptical, but as a consumer it's cool that so
         | companies are trying out various new devices even if most of
         | them are no good.
        
         | paxys wrote:
         | It's going to be the Humane v2, just with a reality distortion
         | field around it this time.
        
         | notatoad wrote:
         | given the vagueness of the available information, i'm guessing
         | they haven't actually defined its capabilities yet.
         | 
         | They can accept that building a smartphone is doomed to fail,
         | and they want to build some hardware, so they're experimenting
         | with all the "not a smartphone" form factors they can think of
         | to see what sticks.
        
         | outside1234 wrote:
         | It is a device that justifies a $40T market cap. /s
         | 
         | (Please don't look at our $60B a year burn rate financials.)
        
         | outside1234 wrote:
         | I'm beginning to believe that the picture of Sam and Jony is
         | the product
        
         | foobarian wrote:
         | So... Alexa but hooked up to ChatGPT?
        
         | sampton wrote:
         | Startrek chest pin.
        
           | riffic wrote:
           | _combadge_
        
       | retube wrote:
       | I am absolutely AGOG to know why this has to be a separate
       | device. It must involve hardware and/or instrumentation not built
       | into smartphones. Microwave scanner? mini x-ray machine? neutrino
       | detector??? what could it be
        
         | sethops1 wrote:
         | Leaks were saying it's a Friend competitor https://friend.com
         | 
         | Just a chatbot in a box.
        
         | c1sc0 wrote:
         | Because Apple won't give you access to what you need as a dev
         | for this kind of thing on iPhone: always-on audio listening to
         | multiple streams : ambient sound, my voice, whatever is playing
         | in my headphones ... think an AI assistant listens to
         | audiobooks together with you and allows you to ask questions /
         | lookup things etc ...
        
         | hadlock wrote:
         | The market is ripe for ChatGPT in a box, replacing google home
         | or Alexa desktop pucks. God knows the google home assistant has
         | been detuned and detuned to the point it barely works for
         | turning the lights on and off at this point. There's a handful
         | of golf-ball shaped objects on AliExpress for $25 that provide
         | this functionality, powered by an ESP32 IoT chip, but doesn't
         | have wakeword capability (yet). I picked up two for a Home
         | Assistant voice assistant project but haven't had time to dive
         | into it yet.
        
       | barfoure wrote:
       | I don't know if that picture is so fake as to be incredibly dumb
       | but holy shit, burn it with fire.
        
       | saaaaaam wrote:
       | That photo of Ive and Altman is weird as hell. It looks like a
       | promo shot for a bad early 90s made for TV movie.
        
         | outside1234 wrote:
         | "narcissistic dance off"
        
           | nicbou wrote:
           | Anything I've seen about Ive hints at him being a kind,
           | passionate man. I don't agree with his design choices but
           | that's no excuse to hate him as a person.
        
         | recursivecaveat wrote:
         | The associated announcement is good for a strange-vibes chuckle
         | as well: https://openai.com/sam-and-jony/
        
         | ntoskrnl_exe wrote:
         | It's so strangely creepy, it always feels like a it's cropped
         | from a Giorgio Armani perfume ad or something.
        
       | jujube3 wrote:
       | Now the makers of the Yo app should sue iyo.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_(app)
        
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