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Stellantis Is Spamming Owners' Screens with Pop-Up Ads for New Car
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Author : cf100clunk
Score : 142 points
Date : 2025-11-28 16:37 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| gdulli wrote:
| Trying to estimate whether I'm old enough that when I buy the
| last car of my life, there will still be ones without screens to
| choose from.
| floxy wrote:
| black construction paper?
| SoftTalker wrote:
| All new cars have screens since reverse cameras are mandatory.
| You'll have to shop on the used car market.
| gdulli wrote:
| Oh really? My current car is over 20 years old so I'm way out
| of the loop. I guess I'll hope for options with smaller
| screens that control fewer of the functions.
| SoftTalker wrote:
| Keep that car as long as you can. Modern cars are shit.
| Peak of cars was probably 1990s/2000s.
| chneu wrote:
| You could still buy some rad cars into the '10s but you
| generally had to go looking.
|
| The fiesta st is a decent example. An economy car, so
| very simple, but with a sports package. The only "smart"
| features, like traction control, can be turned off.
| sudonanohome wrote:
| You forgot to mention that ST is a manual transmission
| car, not for everyone
| qball wrote:
| The attitude that the computers should always be
| subordinate to the driver also extends to the
| transmission.
| sudonanohome wrote:
| 100% manuals are the way to go if you want to feel like a
| driver, not a passenger. I love my manual Jetta Thing is,
| people are lazy. US market is automatics only. Can't make
| people understand what the clutch is or why slushbox is
| bad for fuel efficiency. No one cares. Gas guzzlers are
| the national idea My kid learned to drive a manual in 15
| minutes. Too much effort for US drivers!
| ErroneousBosh wrote:
| I honestly can't say I notice any difference between
| driving a manual or an automatic car.
|
| If we were in a car right now and I was driving, I'd have
| to look at the gearstick to tell you if it was auto or
| manual.
|
| I genuinely don't get the USian obsession with driving
| manual gearbox cars being somehow "elite".
| sudonanohome wrote:
| When you have a small fuel efficient engine, you can tell
| and feel the difference. With a V6 under your hood, you
| probably don't care. US is mostly big engines
| hvb2 wrote:
| It's an anti theft feature too
| userbinator wrote:
| 1960s/early 1970s for me.
| ErroneousBosh wrote:
| My daily is a 1997 Range Rover.
|
| My next daily will likely be something with approximately
| the same level of technology.
|
| There are about ten buttons on the dashboard, of which the
| only ones I care about is the rotary knob that turns on the
| headlights and the button that switches the heater from
| "normal" to "EVERYTHING UP FULL ALL ON RIGHT NOW FULL BORE
| MAXIMUM EVERYTHING WE ARE GOING TO AIR FRY A POLAR BEAR ON
| THE BACK SEAT".
|
| There's an LCD screen. It's the size of my thumb, and tells
| me how many miles it's done (only 190,000 - it's my low
| mileage one, my other has done 270 and there's a guy on my
| forum who's rapidly closing in on 600,000 miles in his),
| what gear it thinks it's probably in, and occasionally it
| uses this LCD to lie about the gearbox overheating because
| water got into the plug for the sensor when I drove through
| a river and it came over the bonnet.
|
| It's not very fast or very efficient, but it does
| everything I need a car to do, and I have a full factory
| service manual for it and easy access to spares.
| genter wrote:
| The screen doesn't have to be obnoxious like this, though. A
| Chevy van has a small screen embedded in the rear view
| mirror, which is impossible to see when not in reverse.
| kjkjadksj wrote:
| People drive 70 year old cars today. Just buy a sensible car
| from sometime before the 2020s, keep up with it and put on 400k
| miles on it.
| queenkjuul wrote:
| My 2016 Corolla seems to be the last year without a SIM (it
| does have a screen but whatever it just shows me what's playing
| on the stereo), but despite a Corolla being bulletproof and me
| rarely driving anymore, i do still wonder whether i can get
| away with this car forever or if I'll have to buy some spyware
| carriage someday
| whartung wrote:
| To be fair, I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee. It was the first
| year of their then new model rollout for the GC. It was (as I
| understand it) the last of the Mercedes JGCs.
|
| I love this thing, it's a "cold dead hands" kind of car for me.
| Only has 120k-ish miles on it.
|
| I won't say it's my last car ever, I just have a hard time
| visualizing swapping it out for anything.
|
| It starts, all the buttons work, it's cosmetically 95%. The
| single biggest issue is that last year it was down for a couple
| of months simply because of parts availability. It's not
| unreliable, but it's swapped a few things (water pump,
| radiator, A/C has had work twice, guess it's a bit notorious in
| the community). Purchased in 2013, it's a 12 year old car.
|
| But waiting months for suspension components (air suspension,
| which I adore) was a real drag. Even with a dealer supplied
| rental.
|
| That would be the thing that sends me over the edge long term,
| I think.
|
| It'll be a shame when it happens, I love the car.
|
| The dealer wants to buy it every time I take it in for routine
| maintenance.
| sudonanohome wrote:
| So your 12 yrs old truck with only 120k miles got:
|
| - radiator replaced
|
| - water pump replaced
|
| - AC repaired (twice)
|
| - suspension rebuilt
|
| And that's considered to be a "good" truck? Good lord I'm
| happy we don't get such garbage sold here in Europe
| genter wrote:
| Yeah, it's not as if Mercedes (who made the vehicle he's
| talking about) or BMW are German.
| sudonanohome wrote:
| Mercedes or BMW don't sell "tough trucks" lol.
|
| They sell luxury goods, which people know to avoid when
| they care about reliability
|
| The thing is, jeeps are even beating the BMWs when it
| comes to unreliability.
|
| Yes Mercedes built that garbage for the US market because
| US market eats that crap. Then stellantis took it a step
| up and removed reliability from their vocabulary entirely
| - more profitable that way. I'd pick a modern VW over
| American garbage all day any day.
|
| But sure, keep yourself convinced about exceptionalism of
| American SUVs.
| CGMthrowaway wrote:
| >Mercedes or BMW don't sell "tough trucks" lol.
|
| G-Wagon is body on frame
| hluska wrote:
| You don't know much about cars. All the work they had done
| on their vehicle was typical for that model generation. Air
| suspensions are generally problematic because of constant
| wear mixed with parts issues, and A/C problems are common
| in that model generation. This is all normal stuff to fix
| over twelve years.
| sudonanohome wrote:
| I do most of the maintenance of cars in our garage, and I
| would never accept double AC repair, suspension and
| radiator replacement to be "normal" around 120k.
|
| The thing is, modern jeeps are a joke even compared to
| this "reliable" example.
|
| There was a post recently about over-the-air update
| bricking Jeeps WHILE DRIVING ON THE FUCKING HIGHWAY. And
| no one cares. People keep buying this trash and defend
| double AC repairs. - \ _ ( tsu ) _ / -
| tartoran wrote:
| > And that's considered to be a "good" truck? Good lord I'm
| happy we don't get such garbage sold here in Europe
|
| Yes, in spite of this it is considered a good car.
| venturecruelty wrote:
| What if, instead of just attempting to retreat into a shrinking
| world that will eventually disappear, we all collectively
| worked together to fix things?
| CGMthrowaway wrote:
| May I present Coretti Cruisers restomods. Prime example:
| https://x.com/washghost1/status/1994198208545714472
|
| Cost roughly $150K
| Bender wrote:
| I never owned a car with such a system. Do they at least give you
| a way to install uBlock and NoScript or will that brick the car?
| technothrasher wrote:
| You're joking, right? The systems are locked up tight. I did
| manage to hack into my Porsche Macan's system so that I could
| turn Apple CarPlay on (it's disabled in the Macan, but
| supported by the system because the unit is shared with the VW
| Atlas which has CarPlay), but it involved a pretty complicated
| jailbreak.
| Bender wrote:
| _You 're joking, right?_
|
| Only 3.1415% joking. I predict people will eventually get
| credits for saying things like, _" Brought to you by Carl's
| Jr."_ in their car, bonus if the kids also repeat it. But
| seriously I figured someone would have found Easter-eggs by
| now that allowed some form of super-duper-root similar to
| windows god-mode.
|
| I am honestly surprised that car manufacturers have not been
| sued into oblivion for adding distractions.
| sowbug wrote:
| I had an old Prius with a nav system that disabled all the
| controls when the car was moving. But it also had a full-
| screen page of legalese that you had to dismiss every time
| you started the car.
|
| So Toyota's lawyers were OK with drivers reading a legal
| contract, but not with drivers pressing a couple buttons to
| get where they need to go.
| Y_Y wrote:
| _Drink verification can to continue journey_
| technothrasher wrote:
| There's less attack surface on these systems than your
| typical windows install. The only reason I was able to hack
| the Macan is because they'd left a debug avenue open such
| that you could plug an ethernet adapter into one of the USB
| ports and use it drop a shell, and then exploit a bug with
| handling of a certificates to get privileged access. I was
| more surprised they'd left that USB ethernet avenue open
| than that there was a certificate handling bug.
|
| I believe since I did it, somebody found another way in by
| inserting a malicious payload into a USB firmware update
| image.
| CamperBob2 wrote:
| What generation had CarPlay disabled? It works very nicely in
| 95B.2 and .3, and the pre-facelift 95B models with PCM 3
| didn't support CarPlay at all without an adapter, did they?
|
| I know _full-screen_ CarPlay isn 't supported without a
| jailbreak, but I don't care about that myself so haven't done
| it.
| firefoxd wrote:
| I remember many years ago thinking, "if they can have a add a SIM
| card on a phone, why not add one in your car? Imagine an Internet
| connected car?"
|
| What I didn't think about was this would be an opportunity for
| ads and subscriptions. And everyday you'll own less and less of
| your car. I'm shopping for a car right now, I may have to just
| put a fresh coat of paint on my old one.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| In most vehicles, you can pull the cellular capability (either
| a physical sim or the RF component). You'll lose telematics,
| but will also lose this.
| qball wrote:
| So nothing of value is lost.
| hluska wrote:
| If you consider updates to be zero value, sure.
| thereisnospork wrote:
| Of course I do? Across all my utilitarian devices, e.g.
| phone, desktop, laptop, I already find updates to be a
| large net negative except for the vague and nebulus
| 'security'. If a car 'needs' updates then it isn't doing
| its job.
|
| I can't imagine the expletives that'll come out of my
| mouth the day I'm running late for a meeting and my car
| won't start because its in the middle of an update.
| qball wrote:
| "Car won't start because the radio failed to update" and
| "insurance company tracking and other telemetry" are not
| just zero value, but net-negative.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| Hence why folks should be pushing right to repair and
| similar legislation through to prevent this before it
| happens. Technical hacks are tactical solutions, good
| policy implementation is the strategic, long term
| solution.
| yason wrote:
| For a lot of things, zero value would be a high peak.
| Often the value is negative. Thus:
|
| You don't update anything if it works and it's not
| connected to internet.
|
| If it works and is connected to internet, then disconnect
| it from internet if possible.
|
| For the rest, delay updates for long enough without
| having heard complaints that there's sufficient
| confidence on the update not breaking anything.
| tremon wrote:
| I consider OTA updates to be of negative value, actually.
| If my car needs fixing, I'll bring it in for servicing.
| If it's not broken, I don't want my car tampered with.
|
| Come back to me when there's a punitive liability model
| for OTA updates. If the garage manages to break something
| during, that's on the garage, not me. It should be the
| same for OTA updates: the company pushing the update
| should be liable for any failure _and for providing
| replacement transportation_ if they manage to break my
| car with an update.
| venturecruelty wrote:
| Until that voids the warranty or the car refuses to start
| without internet access. Why do you think the depravity will
| stop here?
| ruralfam wrote:
| Not just the ads. They are likely tracking your location, and
| drive events. These can be sold to your insurance company who
| may adjust your rates, or even drop you if they consider your
| driving patterns to be risky. When we got our Ford Maverick,
| first thing I did was disable this. Kudos to Ford for making
| this easy.
|
| Downside is that we got a recall notice about the software for
| the backup camera needing an update. I scheduled an
| appointment, and it took over 3 hours. Asked the service guy
| why it was taking so long to flash to software, and he said our
| system needed an update because we had not enabled over-the-air
| connection with Ford which allows this to be done in the
| background. Evidently the download speed for this was
| incredibly slow according to the SG, so it took over two hours
| before our Mav was current, and they could apply the backup
| camera fix. Note: I was very suspicious about this claim. I
| thought it was more likely we were being purposely held captive
| in the service waiting area -- which has a big screen
| constantly running Ford ads. I guess that is OK. I had my
| Kindle, and was into a great book at the time, so I actually
| was not too put out.
| ok_dad wrote:
| I highly doubt the overworked service center employees were
| wasting your time, they probably were just as annoyed as you
| were that your car was sitting in a service bay longer than
| expected.
| hluska wrote:
| Do you really think that a dealership would tie up a service
| bay to keep you captive?
|
| Service is where dealers make their money. You're convinced
| that manufacturers will sell data to insurance companies yet
| believe that dealers will sacrifice hours of profit. That
| doesn't work out.
| ruralfam wrote:
| We were not in the service bay. Our Maverick was outside.
| The Service Guy said they had to download the update to
| their servers. From there it was a quick trip to the
| service bay for the updates. That is the reason I had asked
| in the first place. I could see the Mav outside. Not
| blaming the SG. I am sure it as not the Dealership, but
| someone at Ford Corporate??? Not so sure.
|
| Also: I made sure we were the first appointment, arriving
| at 7:45am for my 8am reservation. Soon another guy was
| behind me. One thing I have learned it to always schedule
| "the first time in the AM" if you do not need immediate
| service.
|
| Edit: In retrospect, they had turned on the OTA system in
| the Mav. So maybe when the SG said it was downloading, I
| thought "to a server" but maybe it was directly to the Mav.
| As I noted, was not a big issue. Still not using the OTA
| features.
| maximus-decimus wrote:
| Nissans have a disclaimer that they spy on your sex life :
| https://nypost.com/2023/09/06/nissan-kia-collect-data-
| about-...
| CGMthrowaway wrote:
| >They are likely tracking your location, and drive events
|
| I can't speak to whether or whither they sell the data, but
| they are 100% tracking your location and vehicle events
| cromka wrote:
| Just a reminder: shit like this doesn't easily happen where a
| regulation like GDPR is in effect.
| hollow-moe wrote:
| "Ok", "Remind me later", "To opt-out, call..."
|
| The jokes write themselves in 2025
| hereme888 wrote:
| I had already scratched Jeep off my car-buying list years ago.
|
| Now the bulk of car-buying research is not "how good is it?" but
| "what are the purposefully in-built annoyances? Can I hack them
| away?"
| sudonanohome wrote:
| You won't have any options for non garbage vehicles pretty
| soon. It's more profitable to sell you garbage and than sell
| you the maintenance on the above mentioned garbage while
| getting a steady trickle of revenue for ad impressions.
|
| Ford pulled focus/fiesta lineup from US ignoring great sales
| (despite widely known DCT issues) just so they can focus on
| selling the garbage SUVs and pickups, highest margin cars. But
| hey, no CAFE regulations to follow, can pollute as much as you
| want.
|
| Jeep quality is a joke - they would've been sued out of
| existence with trucks like that in Europe. When I first saw the
| Jeep Gladiator photo I through it was a joke/meme.
|
| Corporations do truly control everything in US. They'll sell
| you garbage overpriced trucks, convince you to feel happy about
| them and laught all the way to the bank while raking cash for
| all "dealer maintenance" required to keep such garbage on the
| roads. And then they lock down all the maintenance behind
| encryption so you can't replace a battery without going to the
| dealer for the unlock code.
|
| Please speedrun your late stage capitalism asap, it's getting
| harder and harder to watch
| general1465 wrote:
| Technically you are correct, practically you will get into
| question of "who pays for the internet in the car?" and if
| customer refuses to pay (like in VAG case) then you will have
| just a car without an internet.
| morshu9001 wrote:
| I got a Honda, it's fine
| willio58 wrote:
| My partner recently bought a newer Subaru. It's great, and when
| we looked it up we saw it had remote start. Turns out it's
| behind a subscription. When I found that out I essentially
| wrote off Subaru as a brand for my future car purchases. Catch
| me driving my 2017 civic into the ground before I pay a
| freaking subscription for basic vehicle functionality
| readthenotes1 wrote:
| Remote start is basic vehicle functionality for you?
|
| You and I understand the word "basic" differently.
|
| I wish they'd offer a lifetime purchase option--but maybe
| they learned from the 2g remote start debacle not to rely on
| technology they don't control
| willio58 wrote:
| In the age of push-to-start cars, yeah it does feel basic
| to me. If I can unlock my car with my key fob, why can't I
| send a signal to start it?
|
| My 2017 Honda civic has it without a subscription so I was
| pretty shocked to learn that Subaru decided its customers
| would be cool with it being behind a pay-wall.
| apparent wrote:
| Are you looking to remote start from the fob, or from an
| app? I agree that if it's done via the fob, that
| shouldn't require a subscription. But I understand that
| something requiring a cell signal will usually be paid,
| one way or another. I prefer it not be baked into the
| cost of the car, since some people (me) will not want
| that feature.
| treyd wrote:
| Even if it was from an app, why can't I use
| wifi/bluetooth? Even if it depends on a relay server, why
| can't I load my own sim and run my own relay?
| apparent wrote:
| This seems like a very HN-specific use case. It's not
| surprising that automakers don't have APIs that let
| customers host servers that they use to remotely start
| their vehicles. Security is obviously a huge issue, and
| almost no one cares about remote starting that much, and
| has the know-how to implement relay servers and such.
|
| I'm not happy with how consumer choice is boxed in by
| automakers, but for sensitive systems like ignition, I
| don't think that their approach is unreasonable.
| justin66 wrote:
| My Toyota is charging a monthly fee for it as well.
| rightbyte wrote:
| I agree with boycotting subscription looked down cars, but
| what is the point of remote start? Defrosting?
| celsius1414 wrote:
| Or the opposite: cooling the interior to a survivable
| temperature.
| tartoran wrote:
| It could be for both defrosting and cooling.
| petre wrote:
| Gasing your neighbours and every living beign on a 100ft
| radius. I can't stand drivers that idle their cars while
| they're gone doing other stuff. Remote start should totally
| be a subscription feature, before it gets banned or
| regulated. Why? Because it's very annoying.
| Thorrez wrote:
| Do you live in an area where it snows frequently?
| morshu9001 wrote:
| There was an article not long ago about a Subaru vuln that
| allowed anyone to remote start, track, or unlock any new
| Subaru
| dotancohen wrote:
| Interpretation The First: One does not need to subscribe to
| enjoy this functionality.
|
| Interpretation The Second: These vehicles are maintained by
| a corporation that is both greedy and incompetent.
| whatevaa wrote:
| Bettet write off Toyota too then, and many others.
| hedora wrote:
| The last (hopefully only) Stellantis vehicle we owned had trouble
| with its transmission's network connection.
|
| "Nothing stops a Ram, except routine driving".
|
| I'm completely unsurprised they're pushing spam to the dashboard.
|
| The crazy thing is BMW has been doing this well for years. They
| should have just copied the playbook. There's a little shop icon
| in the app where you can buy digital services, swag and schedule
| dealership appointments.
|
| Sometimes it has discounts or track day invitations in there.
| general1465 wrote:
| Imagine you will buy a house and somebody will have so much gall
| to slap a billboard on the side of your house. Repeatedly. Would
| you tolerate this behavior? Obviously not, then why companies
| thinks that it is OK to show ads on my fridge or in my car? This
| is outrageous behavior and I hope that some nasty regulation will
| end this nonsense so we can hear crying of companies how big
| government is bullying them and hampering innovation...
| Animats wrote:
| Just when you think Stellantis couldn't do anything worse...
|
| This is the company that ran Chrysler into the ground. The only
| remaining Chrysler product is one mini-van.
|
| They raised the prices on Jeeps so much that they lost their
| market. They went the "mild hybrid" route, with such silly things
| as 21 miles of electric range.
|
| The Stellantis dealers signed a joint letter demanding that the
| CEO be fired. That was done. It didn't seem to help.
|
| (I own a pre-Stellantis Jeep Wrangler, and would like to buy a
| replacement, but Jeep now has nothing I want.)
| Covzire wrote:
| Saw this in my car this morning myself. I only noticed it as I
| was getting out and right before turning it off.
| froidpink wrote:
| Is this also the brand that tracks your driving data and sells it
| to insurance companies?
| SteveNuts wrote:
| Even Toyota does this, so I wouldn't be surprised if they all
| do.
| ReptileMan wrote:
| Here is an idea for a project - open source street legal EV car
| platform.
| dbg31415 wrote:
| Any screen is just an advertising delivery system.
|
| Relevant.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGgTy5YJ-g
| tonyedgecombe wrote:
| Looks like Stellantis is on my no buy list now, along with
| Samsung, Microsoft and Tesla.
| zetanor wrote:
| So, what happens if you accidentally drill through your car's LTE
| modem while doing an oil change?
| qball wrote:
| It'll throw a code, just like it does if you forget to put DEF
| in. It's not a malfunction, they just want you to think it is.
| kotaKat wrote:
| And isn't this just weeks after a bad software update bricked a
| bunch of Wrangler 4XEs?
|
| ... Oh, and isn't this the same Stellantis that now requires a
| fuck-ton of hoops to access your own diagnostics now because of
| their "secure gateway"? (https://autel.us/security-gateways/)
| UberFly wrote:
| I bough a new Honda and Mazda within the last year and neither
| have any of this kind of nonsense. Both are great. I hope people
| vote with their wallets. I would never have considered anything
| from Stellantis anyway.
| dreamcompiler wrote:
| Stellantis makes some of the most unreliable vehicles in the
| world and charges a small fortune for them. I predicted they'd be
| out of business a year ago but apparently somebody keeps buying
| them.
| daemonologist wrote:
| The most shocking part for me is that FCA survived for seven
| years until the merger with PSA. The French brands are enough
| of an unknown to me that I can believe they might be carrying
| the whole company, but putting Fiat, Chrysler, Jeep, Ram,
| Dodge, Lancia, Maserati, and Alfa Romeo into one basket - good
| god. It's a who's who of disreputable car companies.
| dreamcompiler wrote:
| 1. Locate cellular modem.
|
| 2. Disable it.
| qwertox wrote:
| > To opt out, call 1-800-777-3600
|
| You call the number, maybe let it ring one time, and hang up. You
| did your part to opt out.
|
| Then you sue them.
| kylehotchkiss wrote:
| You signed up for mandatory arbitration in the sales agreement
| probably.
| venturecruelty wrote:
| "Agree to kangaroo court or be unable to go anywhere
| forever." I wonder what people will choose!
| qwertox wrote:
| It's incredible that companies get the right to do this. What
| a corruption.
| jerf wrote:
| Arbitration is still a pretty big money sink for them. If
| enough people do it then it becomes a problem for them. There
| have been instances of companies reinstating normal class
| action lawsuits back into their EULAs because it turned out
| that forced arbitration wasn't a magical wonderland of cost
| cutting for them after all. Forced arbitration and especially
| when they have a clause that forbids class-action arbitration
| can turn into a huge liability for them even if they
| nominally win every instance.
|
| The fundamental financial maneuver of the modern world is to
| take modest risks of modest loss and financially engineer it
| into a smaller risk of much, much larger loss, with a higher
| expected loss (risk*size) in the end after the engineering
| than before. Forced arbitration (and especially when class
| arbitration is banned) is that manuever in the legal sphere.
| It isn't a ticket out of the risk entirely, it's shoving that
| risk under the rug and making it net larger. If you and a few
| hundred of your closest friends put their minds to it you can
| trigger that smaller-chance-of-larger-disaster scenario and
| all you have to do is file... you don't even have to win.
|
| I won't deny it's an uphill battle but the forced arbitration
| clauses can be turned to consumer's advantage with relatively
| modest coordination, you just need to get enough annoyed
| people together.
|
| (I can't help you with this one, I don't have a car with this
| problem. Your few hundred closest friends will need
| standing.)
| kylehotchkiss wrote:
| it'd be cool if we had a more consumer-friendly admin who would
| ban advertising on long-term purchases like washing machines,
| fridges, cars or require you the seller to tell you about how the
| advertising works on said things (ad types, whether they are
| child friendly, frequency, and upfront option to permanently opt
| out)
| CGMthrowaway wrote:
| Yes. This problem of in-vehicle ads definitely stems from the
| current president, and a different president can and will solve
| it for good. A multi-step config panel for these ads is exactly
| what we need.
| estimator7292 wrote:
| The word "admin" in the above comment is short for
| "administration" which encompasses thousands of individuals
| across pretty much every branch and department of the
| government.
| kylehotchkiss wrote:
| Exactly, I mean departments like the FTC, CPSC, DOT (these
| ads are probably displaying while driving at highway
| speeds, much like the jeep software updates deploy at lol)
| venturecruelty wrote:
| It's an interesting phenomenon. Something like this happens every
| week or two, and then these threads basically just become cope,
| with vague advice that most people can't easily do ("oh, just
| desolder the eSim contacts, it'll be fine"), as though that is in
| any way a longterm solution to corporate overreach in our daily
| lives.
|
| What if we all decided to actually work together to _fix_ this
| terrible situation? Unfortunately, it will involve collective
| action, and holding companies accountable who are otherwise very
| averse to that sort of thing. But dear God, we can 't keep "why
| don't you just"-ing forver as the world closes in around us,
| people.
|
| If we want a better world, we are going to have to build a better
| world.
| nemomarx wrote:
| So what's the collective action? Any proposed regulations to
| sign on to?
| drdaeman wrote:
| Have you contacted your representatives and demanded something
| that would improve the current situation?
| mosselman wrote:
| Getting a pop-up like this would be a sure way to get me to never
| buy your brand again.
| more_corn wrote:
| Never buy any product from any company who does this.
|
| There is a time to put your foot down and that time is now.
| deely3 wrote:
| Let's start from Samsung!
|
| https://mlq.ai/news/samsung-faces-backlash-after-rolling-out...
| slurrpurr wrote:
| Pro tip: if you buy the new car, the ad goes away for a year ;)
| avazhi wrote:
| Nope.
| lostdog wrote:
| This kind of behavior should re-open the return window for the
| car.
| tartoran wrote:
| I wonder if we're gonna see a class action lawsuit.
| pimlottc wrote:
| For those unfamiliar and confused, Stellantis is the mega
| corporation formed from the merge of Chrysler and Fiat that owns
| Jeep, Dodge, Peugeot, Opel, and many other brands.
| morkalork wrote:
| Their reputation is verging on the likes of private equity
| josefritzishere wrote:
| Reason # 10034 why I do not want a TV screen in my car or truck.
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