[HN Gopher] Martha's Vineyard Sign Language
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       Martha's Vineyard Sign Language
        
       Author : tbodt
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2024-11-23 06:29 UTC (4 days ago)
        
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       | egberts1 wrote:
       | This is a prime example of isolationism's contribution toward
       | structured communication needed to function adequately in an
       | agrarian society.
        
       | NelsonMinar wrote:
       | There's been a lot written about MVSL. Oliver Sacks' book "Seeing
       | Voices" is a good introduction, it has a chapter or maybe a whole
       | section about it.
        
         | bcooney_info wrote:
         | i thought this seemed familiar! read OS's book in university
         | many years ago. i might have to go back and read it again
        
       | throw0101a wrote:
       | A list of the ones that are being used in different
       | regions/countries:
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       | * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sign_languages
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       | * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sign_languages_by_numb...
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       | Also, for the very young:
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       | * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_sign_language
       | 
       | Wonder if it'd be easier to create a 'universal' sign language
       | than a universal spoken one (e.g., Esperanto, or an old _lingua
       | franca_ like Latin).
        
         | MrDrone wrote:
         | It's been tried. There's International Sign Language (ISL) and
         | it's about as successful as Esperanto. I've mostly heard it's
         | used a little at large Deaf meet ups and conferences.
         | 
         | American Sign Language (ASL) is often the second sign language
         | non-Americans learn as it has a some international presence.
         | 
         | But ultimately sign language users are no more likely to decide
         | on and widely adopt a universal language than spoken language
         | users.
        
           | Mountain_Skies wrote:
           | It's sad to see that British Sign Language and American Sign
           | Language are different even though they both came out of
           | societies with a (mostly) common language. I'm sure there are
           | good reasons why it turned out this way but sad that people
           | who already have a communication obstacle ended up with an
           | additional one when it comes to these two large and highly
           | connected societies.
        
             | 1-more wrote:
             | Even American Sign Language itself has a huge racial split
             | due to the legacy of segregated schools for the deaf.
             | https://www.lingvano.com/asl/blog/what-is-basl-black-
             | america...
        
             | NelsonMinar wrote:
             | Until 200 years ago most places didn't think Deaf people
             | were capable of learning. With no schools there was less
             | Deaf culture and fewer codified signed languages. It's an
             | awful history.
             | 
             | ASL is more similar to French sign language. Thanks to
             | Thomas Gallaudet, who founded a school in 1817 in
             | Connecticut. Gallaudet was American but studied in Europe
             | and learned about teaching Deaf people in part from a
             | French school.
        
       | vunderba wrote:
       | When I lived in Russia, a friend of mine spoke Russian sign
       | language and I asked how they managed to communicate in the cold
       | winter months outdoors. They told me using a lot of facial
       | expressions, body language, and that you can sign a surprising
       | amount even wearing gloves.
       | 
       | Mittens apparently are the equivalent of gagging somebody though.
        
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