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       German Navy Confirms Its Supersized Frigate Will Avoid the Red Sea
        
       Author : tomohawk
       Score  : 13 points
       Date   : 2024-11-04 19:36 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | caekislove wrote:
       | It's best to always avoid sending your warships into a war zone.
       | They might get damaged, after all!
        
         | pkaye wrote:
         | Just like nobody wants their new car or couch to get dinged or
         | damaged until it eventually happens and you learn to just
         | accept it.
        
       | teslabox wrote:
       | US Navy Admiral Hyman G. Rickover was said to have observed,
       | "There are only two kinds of ships: submarines and targets".
       | 
       | In the modern era of low-cost drones and missiles, all surface
       | ships are sitting ducks. The US Navy has missiles to shoot down
       | aircraft and missiles, but these were designed to shoot down
       | expensive Soviet aircraft. I think these missiles cost
       | $1-2million each. A modern inexpensive attack drone goes for
       | <$10,000.
       | 
       |  _A $2M missile vs. a $2,000 drone: Pentagon worried over cost of
       | Houthi attacks_ -
       | https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/19/missile-drone-penta...
       | 
       | Warships that can deploy helicopters are still useful for
       | disaster response: _When Disaster Strikes, Send the Enterprise:_
       | https://sendtheenterprise.org/
       | 
       | Edit: "According to the U.S. Navy, the Dwight D. Eisenhower
       | carrier strike group expended 155 surface-to-air missiles, 135
       | land-attack cruise missiles, nearly 60 air-to-air missiles and
       | 420 air-to-surface weapons during what it called a "historic"
       | combat deployment." - _US Aircraft Carrier 's Near Miss With
       | Missile Fired by Middle East Rebels,_
       | https://www.newsweek.com/us-news-aircraft-carrier-missile-fi...
        
         | mattlondon wrote:
         | Yeah this has been an interesting development regarding drones.
         | 
         | I guess some sort of laser thing is probably most viable now if
         | you consider a swarm of say 50-100 cheap drones. I would
         | imagine they'd be susceptible to relatively lower levels of
         | laser power than e.g an ICBM, although they they are of course
         | a smaller target
        
         | themadturk wrote:
         | Apparently not completely sitting ducks, since no American
         | naval ship has been damaged by drones. But the "conventional"
         | anti-aircraft weaponry is like shooting a fly with a howitzer
         | (almost literally). More CIWS systems and a rapid-fire laser or
         | two seem like they might be effective and perhaps lower-cost.
        
       | mrandish wrote:
       | > According to the Spiegel, "other nations operating with
       | warships [in the Red Sea] reported that escort was currently not
       | possible."
       | 
       | So, basically "Dear German Navy - Unfortunately, our warships are
       | too busy protecting non-warships to protect your warship.
       | Sincerely, Your Allies"
        
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