[HN Gopher] Adobe's 'Ethical' Firefly AI Was Trained on Midjourn...
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       Adobe's 'Ethical' Firefly AI Was Trained on Midjourney Images
        
       Author : AndrewDucker
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2024-04-13 20:45 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bloomberg.com)
        
       | andy99 wrote:
       | https://archive.md/2onjE
        
       | rdtsc wrote:
       | > Generative AI images from the Adobe Stock collection are a
       | small part of the Firefly training dataset," wrote Adobe
       | 
       | Interesting I wonder if this add a strong incentive for
       | competitors, or anyone really, to sneak in data like that and
       | then sue later.
       | 
       | It can be a bit like patent trolling but in this case it would be
       | training data trolling.
        
       | danShumway wrote:
       | The implications of this in the article are mainly focused on the
       | ethics, but at least where the copyright is concerned there is no
       | problem with this -- Midjourney Images are not copyrightable, and
       | it doesn't seem like there's any grounds for Midjourney to
       | complain; especially if the images were uploaded by 3rd-party
       | users and not sourced directly by Adobe under a Midjourney
       | license.
       | 
       | From the article:
       | 
       | > Training on AI-generated content probably wouldn't make Adobe's
       | Firefly image generator less commercially safe, and the company
       | isn't required to say what it's training on as long as it isn't
       | misleading consumers, said Harvard professor Rebecca Tushnet, who
       | focuses on copyright and advertising law. But training on AI
       | images, such as those created by Midjourney, undermines the idea
       | that Firefly is unique from competing services, she said.
       | 
       | The critique here isn't that Adobe is violating Midjourney's
       | copyright, it's that Firefly's data ultimately is not as
       | ethically sourced as Adobe claims (keeping in mind that different
       | commenters probably have different qualifications of what
       | ethically sourced training data would be).
        
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