[HN Gopher] Insomnia REST client now requires an account
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       Insomnia REST client now requires an account
        
       Author : mmillin
       Score  : 44 points
       Date   : 2023-09-27 19:39 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
        
       | mead5432 wrote:
       | Thoughtworks Technology Radar has Insomnia as a "Trial" in the
       | issue that came out today because of Postman pushing for more
       | things to live on their servers.
       | 
       | While not quite the same, still feels like awkward timing.
       | 
       | https://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/tools/summary/insomnia
       | 
       | *edited to add a link
        
       | danfarrelly wrote:
       | Our team has just started to use this a bit more and I really
       | liked the .insomnia dir in our projects. This is pretty sad as
       | we've seen this path with Postman - I ~~thought~~ hoped that
       | since Kong had plenty of other viable revenue streams that
       | Insomnia would stay out of this nonsense. Disappointing.
        
       | SideburnsOfDoom wrote:
       | It was a month or so that I heared of Insomnia, when we were
       | looking for easier alternatives to Postman, which is much further
       | down the VC-funded, "gotta monetise those users" trajectory.
       | 
       | But they're trying to catch up, maybe?
        
       | nde wrote:
       | Discussion going on in
       | https://github.com/Kong/insomnia/issues/6577. Unlikely to change
       | anything, though. Time to look at alternatives.
        
       | RamblingCTO wrote:
       | I thought about posting this half an hour ago but instead chose
       | violence on their GitHub. Time to look into alternatives. I still
       | can't comprehend this move. Seems Postman did well after they
       | pulled this stunt so Kong does it as well.
        
       | quic5 wrote:
       | It's still MIT licensed right? Seems like we need a Vscodium for
       | Insomnia
        
       | altairprime wrote:
       | This is the first I've ever heard of Insomnia. Here's missing
       | context that a blog post about this could have included, to save
       | everyone paging through yet another GitHub issue FP.
       | 
       | Insomnia 8.0.0-rc1 was released today:
       | https://insomnia.rest/changelog
       | 
       | The business that ships this codebase is migrating all instances
       | from cloud-optional to cloud-required:
       | 
       | > _The challenge is that we cannot continue to offer a great
       | product with all these capabilities while working on an
       | abstraction layer that supports two different storage backends
       | for all data in Insomnia, adds too much complexity to the whole
       | product._
       | 
       | Existing non-cloud users who wish to continue operating without
       | the cloud will need to downgrade to 2023.5.8 to continue
       | accessing their data:
       | 
       | https://github.com/Kong/insomnia/releases/tag/core%402023.5....
       | 
       | HN user 'RamblingCTO' (see below) is the author of the GitHub
       | issue.
        
         | RamblingCTO wrote:
         | Even worse, before you could use it without an account. Now it
         | locks you out of your data after the update. You need to create
         | an account to get back your data.
        
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       | heh wrote:
       | That's amazingly terrible, I get the business case but this is
       | the sort of thing you don't roll out in an automatic
       | update....and you talk to your customers and stakeholders about
       | first. Just wow.
        
       | stringtoint wrote:
       | Curious to know what advantages Insomnia has/had over Postman
       | beyond being MIT licensed.
       | 
       | Postman's initial startup time could be a bit faster but other
       | than this I'm not missing much (yet). I used it for years
       | occasionally before finally creating an account not so long to
       | sync my requests across devices.
       | 
       | BTW: Jetbrains IDEs like WebStorm also have an integrated HTTP
       | client.
        
         | nokeya wrote:
         | Absence of all this bullshit about accounts, clouds and
         | telemetry like in postman. It was just a tool to send requests
         | I wanted when I wanted
        
         | CrimsonRain wrote:
         | Ignoring everything else, postman UX is worse than anything
         | I've ever used
        
       | PH95VuimJjqBqy wrote:
       | what alternatives exist?
       | 
       | I literally just switched to insomnia due to postman doing this
       | so I'm a bit stuck now. Do I go back to fiddler?
        
         | paradox460 wrote:
         | I've been using LiveBook and doing my requests and such in
         | there. If you're not an Elixir shop you could probably do
         | something similar with jupyter
        
         | Badumtss8 wrote:
         | https://hoppscotch.io/
         | 
         | https://recipeui.com/
        
         | dhpn wrote:
         | Not exactly the same, but I switched from Insomnia to Hurl.
         | https://hurl.dev/
        
         | stonecharioteer wrote:
         | I ditched all these in favour of curl or xh a couple of years
         | ago. Keep my recipes in shell scripts with documentation.
         | Solves everything for me.
        
           | bdavisx wrote:
           | This makes it relatively easy to chain calls if necessary -
           | call one api to get a authn token and then call another with
           | the token you just got. I think that postman and insomnia can
           | do that, but it's a breeze from the command line.
        
         | nerdo wrote:
         | Thunder Client VS Code extension.
        
           | ok_dad wrote:
           | Unfortunately I think they're doing similar things with this
           | extension. Last I checked, they locked some functionality
           | behind a paywall that was formerly free and now they have
           | several weird tiers of pricing with revenue limits and other
           | bullshit.
           | 
           | https://www.thunderclient.com/pricing
        
         | cwdegidio wrote:
         | Paw is always an option if you are on a Mac... I don't know if
         | it available on PC
        
           | paradox460 wrote:
           | They were bought by rapid API so there might be a Mac version
           | now
        
             | jurassicfoxy wrote:
             | I was really disappointed with the Rapid API buyout, but
             | anyway, the client for Mac seems essentially unchanged, is
             | the good news.
             | 
             | The weird thing is that I can find NO mention of the client
             | on their site: https://rapidapi.com/products/build-apis/
             | 
             | Which, to me, is a bad sign. I suspect someday I'll be
             | forced to give it up.
        
         | pihug12 wrote:
         | Bruno maybe? (https://www.usebruno.com/ &&
         | https://github.com/usebruno/bruno)
        
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