[HN Gopher] iOS 17 Is a Prude
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iOS 17 Is a Prude
Author : grupthink
Score : 58 points
Date : 2023-09-22 21:12 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| brucethemoose2 wrote:
| If its local scanning, this is fine. Dare I say, its a pretty
| good use of machine vision.
| madrox wrote:
| The caption underneath this setting when you turn it on makes
| clear that scanning is on-device
| diego_sandoval wrote:
| Even if done locally, it's still creepy.
| lucb1e wrote:
| I'd also be creeped out, but honestly it's not bad to be a
| bit paranoid about who can see what you're currently sending
| onto the internet and double checking that things are as they
| should
| [deleted]
| roenxi wrote:
| There is a problem out there of unsolicited nudes; I can see
| this being welcome capability for a lot of people [0]. It
| doesn't nudge up against any privacy issues. Seems like a
| good idea overall.
|
| Of course, there is also a real issue with the fact that, as
| closed source software on a locked down platform, we can't
| know what happens next. But that is just part of the deal
| with iPhones; there is already a lot of data like that (eg,
| I'd expect the US uses iPhone GPS data froom targets to hunt
| them down).
|
| [0] Not sure what the feature actually does because nobody
| has posted details here, so there is some guesswork here.
| reanimus wrote:
| There are two main use cases here, afaik: 1) Minors, who may
| send/receive these sorts of photos when chatting with their
| significant others (and should know the consequences) or
| worse, an adult (and should know the dangers. It offers
| information, the ability to message a parent/guardian, or
| view it anyway.
|
| 2) People who don't want to deal with unsolicited dick pics
| (or other nudes, I guess, but let's be honest)
| ehPReth wrote:
| So, I can't make stickers with penises in them for whatever
| reason (you'd think they'd lump creating/receiving them in the
| same setting), but the 'are you sure you want to send or receive
| something that looks naughty' was, in fact, turned off by default
| for me. Anyone else?
| jdlshore wrote:
| It's meant for kids.
| TheNewsIsHere wrote:
| The new major OS releases include a version of this feature
| that you can enable without the parental control
| context/overhead. So for example if you don't want to see
| random penises that might get messaged to you, you can avoid
| seeing that.
|
| It is optional and disabled by default, just like the child-
| oriented Communication Safety feature set. They call the
| adult-oriented version "Sensitive Content Warnings".
| [deleted]
| brucethemoose2 wrote:
| Perhaps the default is related to age?
| majormajor wrote:
| This was a "welcome to the new version, let's get started"
| walkthrough optional setting for me. So the user here turned it
| on and acts surprised it does what it says?
| estevaoam wrote:
| Not hotdog
| [deleted]
| atarian wrote:
| I think most people would prefer this over CSAM.
| lucb1e wrote:
| I don't think this screen would prevent anyone doing CSA from
| sending that M, and a C independently wishing to send SM is not
| necessarily being A, so I'm not sure what you mean
| Karellen wrote:
| Does that sort of content show up often for people who would
| not prefer it and don't go looking for it?
|
| As someone who's used earlier versions of iOS for some years
| now, and who knows a bunch more people who also have, that's
| not a problem I'm aware any of us ever experiencing. I realise
| that anecdotes are not data, but it doesn't seem like it should
| be a common issue at all...
| CharlesW wrote:
| > _Does that sort of content show up often for people who
| would not prefer it and don 't go looking for it?_
|
| Oh yes.
|
| https://www.psypost.org/2020/08/new-research-uncovers-
| womens....
| johnmaguire wrote:
| Unsolicited dick picks is not the same thing as CSAM...
| CharlesW wrote:
| Because no underage person has ever sent or received a
| dick pic?
| lucb1e wrote:
| That's not what your article is about though, or even so
| much as mentions in passing, so I find the critique that
| the provided data is not about CSAM legitimate
| CharlesW wrote:
| > _That 's not what your article is about though..._
|
| _Teen Girls' Experiences Negotiating the Ubiquitous Dick
| Pic: Sexual Double Standards and the Normalization of
| Image Based Sexual Harassment_ : https://link.springer.co
| m/article/10.1007/s11199-021-01236-3
|
| "The YouGov poll also highlighted that, of all of the
| women questioned, 46% received an unsolicited dick pic
| before the age of 18..."
|
| Hope that helps.
| [deleted]
| zeratax wrote:
| optional things like this are fine. preventing me from joining
| e.g. NSFW discord servers wholesale is not imo. As an adult I
| should be able to use my phone however I want
| EA-3167 wrote:
| 100%. It's the difference between empowering users and
| patronizing them.
| squeaky-clean wrote:
| > preventing me from joining e.g. NSFW discord servers
| wholesale
|
| Is this something that iOS (or some other client) does? Or just
| hypothetical. I don't keep up with these things aside from when
| they reach HN
| mirashii wrote:
| https://www.theverge.com/tech/2021/4/19/22391675/discord-
| ios...
| cmsj wrote:
| (to be clear, this is not an iOS restriction per-se, this
| is the App Store guidelines not wanting to have a store
| full of porn)
| mfer wrote:
| > as an adult
|
| You touch on an interesting element. A lot of iPhone users are
| kids. Even young kids. Logged in with their parents account.
|
| Not trying to justify what's going on. Just add context
| ben_w wrote:
| Mmm.
|
| Given the internet as it is, and as it has been even back
| when FOSS discussions included hating GIF because of patent
| enforcement, kids shouldn't be on the (general) internet _at
| all_.
|
| Smartphones are even worse, given the deliberate attempts to
| make content more addictive.
|
| I'm not sure how to square that particular circle with the
| likelihood of social exclusion from not being online -- it's
| not like me putting (general) in brackets in the first
| paragraph will convince the right people that there's money
| to be made in a genuinely safe subset, despite the existence
| of YouTube Kids and whatever Netflix' thing is called.
| december456 wrote:
| I will break the HN spirit, but im fucking horrified of this
| thread. _So_ many people being happy that a company is protecting
| them from themselves, or their family members. Where is my
| controversial personal websites? Did i take a wrong left turn
| somewhere?
| vore wrote:
| I mean, you can just click the button to send the nudes. It's a
| sign, not a cop.
| [deleted]
| mensetmanusman wrote:
| This is a feature for kid's devices, not the default setting.
| thefourthchime wrote:
| This, on machine and totally appropriate.
| asddubs wrote:
| whatever happened to sideloading in this update anyway
| cmsj wrote:
| They have until March 2024 to comply.
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