[HN Gopher] AI Nutrition Fact Labels
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       AI Nutrition Fact Labels
        
       Author : maxwell
       Score  : 70 points
       Date   : 2023-08-23 17:36 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (nutrition-facts.ai)
 (TXT) w3m dump (nutrition-facts.ai)
        
       | dinkleberg wrote:
       | I was hoping this was a new tool for generating real nutrition
       | facts, but this is still cool.
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       | I can't help but wonder, would this be considered a skeuomorph?
       | The word nutrition doesn't really seem fitting.
        
       | binarymax wrote:
       | This is a nice concise format to display model cards
       | (https://arxiv.org/abs/1810.03993). I like the style and the
       | "standard". But, I do agree with other commenters that the
       | 'nutrition' term is probably inappropriate. We get the style from
       | the card - you don't need to carry the analogy any further.
        
       | vsareto wrote:
       | Cool, but I question the association with nutrition labels. Those
       | have a specific, regulated purpose and this AI checklist doesn't.
       | Is the nutrition label association supposed to subtly associate
       | to some authenticity?
        
         | yreg wrote:
         | May be inspired by Apple's privacy labels
         | 
         | https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/5/21551926/apple-privacy-de...
        
         | bbor wrote:
         | Yes, IMO. It's supposed to be aspirational, I think -- perhaps
         | prompting the thought "if the government regulates what I eat,
         | and I like that, maybe the government should regulate the
         | software that controls my life..."
        
       | TheHappyOddish wrote:
       | Is this like Receiptify - presenting data in a kitchey format? I
       | don't understand what it's parodying. Or is it just meant to be a
       | standalone format for comparing AI privacy? Surely spreadsheets
       | have already solved this more effectively.
        
       | spaceprogrammer wrote:
       | love this
        
       | efields wrote:
       | As a consumer, I couldn't care less.
       | 
       | As a software developer who interfaces with Twilio API from time
       | to time, sure, okay I get it. It makes the pitch easier to
       | whoever needs to sign off on the project that requires an AI
       | service. I do feel like the nutrition label metaphor is a bit
       | _much_, however.
        
         | rsync wrote:
         | "As a software developer who interfaces with Twilio API from
         | time to time ..."
         | 
         | As a developer - and sysadmin - who interfaces with the Twilio
         | APIs _hundreds of times per day_ for both personal and business
         | use I wonder why they can 't just be a boring telco infra
         | company and continue to improve upon the simple building blocks
         | that aren't spam tools.
         | 
         | Here's a very specific suggestion:
         | 
         | https://twitter.com/rsyncnet/status/1691964839386828944
         | 
         | ... that I have made ~20 times over the years - sometimes in
         | person at Signal - that has never been acted on.
         | 
         | The first time I heard "customer engagement at scale" I knew
         | pain was coming.
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | ape4 wrote:
       | Its like nutrition facts but for AI /s
        
       | boilerupnc wrote:
       | Similar concept: AI FactSheets [0]
       | 
       | "The goal of the FactSheet project is to foster trust in AI by
       | increasing transparency an increased understanding of how AI was
       | created and deployed and enabling governance the ability to
       | control how AI is created and deployed. Increased transparency
       | provides information for AI consumers to better understand how
       | the AI model a program component that is generated by learning
       | patterns in training data to make predictions on new data, such
       | as a loan application. or service an executable program, deployed
       | behind an API, that allows it to respond to program requests from
       | other programs or services* was created. This allows a consumer
       | of the model to determine if it is appropriate for their
       | situation."
       | 
       | [0] https://aifs360.res.ibm.com/
        
       | orasis wrote:
       | Privacy theatre.
        
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         | achrono wrote:
         | Exactly -- there's a reason this is coming from a billion
         | dollar SV company.
        
         | ed312 wrote:
         | Not if the veracity and rules for creating these labels is held
         | to a strict regulatory standard. We can certainly argue if the
         | current food-based "nutrition facts" really provides all the
         | information it should, but knowingly printing false information
         | has clearly defined punishments.
        
       | have_faith wrote:
       | This is like cookie banners all over again.
        
       | savrajsingh wrote:
       | Can we take "nutrition" out of this?
        
         | invaliduser wrote:
         | There's a metaphoric idea of feeding a model
        
       | mcs_ wrote:
       | Am I the only one associating this with actual Nutrition
       | labelling?
        
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