[HN Gopher] We're joining the Reddit blackout from June 12th to ...
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We're joining the Reddit blackout from June 12th to 14th
Author : defenestration
Score : 43 points
Date : 2023-06-05 19:33 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| /r/formula1 is the We here
| albatross13 wrote:
| Wow, they choose to do this during pride month too. As a member
| of the 2SLGBTQI+ community, this could not come at a worse time.
|
| Trump supports are still genociding us and now one of our biggest
| ally subs is going dark OVER MONEY? WHAT ABOUT TRANS LIVES?
|
| I can't even
| godsfshrmn wrote:
| What the?
| braza wrote:
| Personally I feel bad for all those folks that
| moderates/contributes in Reddit and at Stack Overflow.
|
| Imagine pour hundreds of hours for the sake of enjoyment, sharing
| or nurturing a community and due to some market circumstances not
| having a saying in any decision.
|
| To be honest, seeing those movements from those companies makes
| me feel that the future of open communities (but some how walled)
| it's bleak.
| that_guy_iain wrote:
| Honestly, I don't. There is a lot of talk of the price being
| unreasonable. Realistically, it's rather reasonable. The
| problem only comes in when these apps have failed to monetize
| subscriptions. In some cases, these apps are monetized by ads
| and therefore directly competing with Reddit for the ad buy.
| Seriously, I am meant to feel bad that someone who decided to
| directly compete with a company is now being charged money for
| the very thing that makes the app viable?
|
| There is a lot of talk of these apps being forced to shutdown
| due to the overhead of $2.50 a user per month. That is an
| extremely low overhead so low that a $5 a month subscription
| solves the entire drama very quickly.
|
| This isn't about Reddit being greedy. This is about Reddit
| users being too cheap to pay for something they want and used
| on a daily basis. There are free ways to use the site if you
| want to use an API that avoids monetizing then it seem fair you
| pay. This isn't like Twitter where apps charging $20-99 a month
| had trouble paying. This is apps charging $1.50 to very few
| users and relying on another company to foot the bill for their
| freemium model - while directly competing with them.
| sschueller wrote:
| Banning NSFW content has nothing to do with "reddit users
| being too cheap". It also doesn't cost reddit anything since
| content moderation is mostly done by moderators for free.
| that_guy_iain wrote:
| To be fair, that one seems like a weird one for Reddit to
| hold their ground on. Maybe there are legal reasons. Or
| maybe they're being weird.
| Raicuparta wrote:
| I'm guessing you don't know much about the subject, and
| didn't read too deeply into it. Third party apps are only a
| part of the problem (which you're also misrepresenting), and
| not the one referenced in the comment you answered to. I
| suggest following the links in the post to understand the
| full depth of the problem.
| that_guy_iain wrote:
| I've read deeply into the problem. And I've come to the
| conclusion the problem is cheap reddit users who don't want
| to pay for software.
|
| There are complaints that the offical app isn't accessible.
| Ok, pay for accessible software or complain enough to
| Reddit to fix their app. There are laws I believe to force
| them to have an accessible app.
|
| Mods use tools to moderate. Ok. You want to have a little
| hobby of moderating a community. Fair enough, pay for your
| hobby. If not. Let Reddit fix the spam problem when it
| becomes a problem, because it will become a problem and
| Reddit will be forced to fix it because the users will hate
| it and it'll harm growth. If not, pay for the software to
| do your little hobby.
|
| Just because someone has a different opinion doesn't mean
| they haven't read into it. It's that they have a different
| opinion than you.
|
| I think software should cost money. Because I write
| software for a living and I think people should value what
| I do to the point they pay money for it. I know a lot of
| techies like to make our work worthless but I don't.
| add-sub-mul-div wrote:
| Reddit is a pretty terrible product and it's not cheap of
| people to decide that it only makes sense to use if free.
|
| Ideally we all would have realized Twitter and Reddit aren't
| worth our time, but if it's facing that they're not worth our
| money that gets us to break our habit of settling for them as
| time wasters, that's cool too.
| wolpoli wrote:
| > Seriously, I am meant to feel bad that someone who decided
| to directly compete with a company is now being charged money
| for the very thing that makes the app viable?
|
| > There is a lot of talk of these apps being forced to
| shutdown due to the overhead of $2.50 a user per month. That
| is an extremely low overhead so low that a $5 a month
| subscription solves the entire drama very quickly.
|
| > This is about Reddit users being too cheap to pay for
| something they want and used on a daily basis.
|
| How do you find enough non-cheap users that pay $5 a month
| (and remits $2.50 to Reddit) to support a viable third-party
| client for Reddit and compete against the first-party client
| that is free and has more content?
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