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It's motor racing." 2023 Driver Standings # Driver Team Pts 1 Verstappen Red Bull 170 2 Perez Red Bull 117 3 Alonso Aston Martin 99 4 Hamilton Mercedes 87 5 Russell Mercedes 65 6 Sainz Ferrari 58 7 Leclerc Ferrari 42 8 Stroll Aston Martin 35 9 Ocon Alpine 25 10 Gasly Alpine 15 11 Norris McLaren 12 12 Hulkenberg Haas 6 13 Piastri McLaren 5 14 Bottas Alfa Romeo 4 15 Zhou Alfa Romeo 4 16 Tsunoda AlphaTauri 2 17 Magnussen Haas 2 18 Albon Williams 1 19 De Vries AlphaTauri 0 20 Sargeant Williams 0 2023 Constructor Standings # Team Pts 1 Red Bull 287 2 Mercedes 152 3 Aston Martin 134 4 Ferrari 100 5 Alpine 40 6 McLaren 17 7 Haas 8 8 Alfa Romeo 8 9 AlphaTauri 2 10 Williams 1 * i * i * i a community for 15 years MODERATORS * message the mods discussions in r/formula1 <> X 22.9k * 668 comments We're joining the Reddit blackout from June 12th to 14th, to protest the planned API changes that will kill 3rd party apps 2149 * 329 comments Nelson Piquet sentenced to pay 1 Million Dollar to LGBTQ fund, last appeal denied after his racist comments towards Hamilton 609 * 49 comments [ZqfH1CZV] A rare picture of Max Verstappen without Red Bull clothes 6300 * 419 comments [g6IF7IYw] Max on whether he'd get told off for ignoring GP: They don't know how much pace I have in the car, right, when they tell me "this is the fastest lap, don't bother", but I knew that I could do it. 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Become a Redditor and join one of thousands of communities. x 22.9k 22.9k 22.9k /r/Formula1 /r/allWe're joining the Reddit blackout from June 12th to 14th, to protest the planned API changes that will kill 3rd party apps (self.formula1) submitted 6 hours ago * by jeppe96 Keviking Magnussen[Rocket_48] [Animated_H][gold_48] - announcement Hey there r/formula1 One of the less enjoyable mod posts today, but an important one, that we hope you'll take the time to read. Recently Reddit Inc has announced changes to their API which, if enacted, will shut down many, if not all, 3rd party apps that a large number of Redditors use to access and enjoy their favourite communities - this one included. One of the most critical changes to the API is that it is moving from a free to a paid model, resulting in expenses that developers of 3rd party apps simply cannot afford. To put the price change in to context, Apollo, one of the most popular 3rd party apps for Reddit, is looking at a cost of $1.7 million per month to continue operating. That's a cost of $12,000 per 50 million API requests. In contrast, Apollo pays Imgur $166 for every 50 million API calls. This means popular apps like Apollo, Reddit Is Fun, Narwhal and many more will have to shut down, permanently. Even if you're not using a 3rd party app yourself, these changes are likely to impact the communities you enjoy as well, with the vast majority of moderation teams relying on 3rd party or self-made tools, that utilise Reddit's API. For us specifically, that means u/F1-bot, which does a whole lot of work behind the scenes to help mods manage the sub as well as deliver the content you've come to enjoy: Sidebar stats and schedules, standings, race threads with timings, starting grids, stats and results, the daily discussion, just to mention a few of the visible ones. And on top of all that, it paints a bleak picture of what is to come for those of us who use other tools, like Reddit Enhancement Suite and old.reddit.com. Here's a little TLDR on why this is important. So what are we planning? On June 12th, we and a growing number of other subs - large and small - will go dark for 48 hours. During that time, you will not be able to view or post any content on r/formula1. This action isn't something we take lightly. We understand that many of you enjoy coming here on a daily basis to keep up with the sport (and to trash talk the latest Ferrari strategy), but we believe that we must take a stand on this topic - and this is how we can do so. We understand that Reddit is a company that has to make money in order to offer us a place to be the community that we are - but killing beloved 3rd party apps is not they way to do it. We are not asking Reddit to provide a paid service for free - we are asking for reasonable pricing for apps that people have come to love and depend on to parcitipate in their communities. We can't tell you that the blackout will solve the problem, because we simply don't know. But we have to try. What you can do to support this While subs going dark is one thing, regular users can help as well. Reach out to Reddit via the channels available to you: Modmail r/ reddit, comment in relevant posts regarding the API changes, submit your comments via the contact forms. Spread the word about the changes and the consequences where you can. Doesn't have to be on Reddit. The important thing is getting it attention. Participate in the communities that highlight this issue: r/ Save3rdPartyApps, r/apolloapp, r/redditisfun, r/getnarwhal/ And finally stay off Reddit completely from June 12th to 14th. The blackout is one thing, but users staying away from the site entirely will send an equally important message. But don't forget: Don't be a jerk. As frustrating as this is, being toxic or aggressive is not the way to go. Remember the human on the other side of the screen. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Links for utility, since we only have two sticky slots available: The Day After Debrief and The Daily Discussion. * 668 comments * share * save * hide * report top 200 commentsshow 500 sorted by: best topnewcontroversialoldrandomq&alive (beta) [ ] Want to add to the discussion? Post a comment! Create an account [-]AlienSomewhere Emerson Fittipaldi [score hidden] 6 hours ago (65 children) On the bright side, I might get some work done June12th-14th. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]40ozkiller [score hidden] 5 hours ago (56 children) It comes back with a day to spare before the next free practice session, the most we will miss out on is some random clickbait articles and pictures of moving trucks. This protest has no grip. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Blanchimont Maxsplaining [M] [score hidden] 5 hours ago (50 children) If this was an r/Formula1 exclusive thing, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. However, this blackout is a coordinated effort between hundreds of subreddits. Waiting until the next race weekend doesn't make much sense because it would be just one subreddit going dark rather than hundreds going dark at the same time. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]rand0m__pers0n Sebastian Vettel [score hidden] 5 hours ago (5 children) It's actually nice because it isn't actually a major inconvenience but it still shows support. Also could you guys put a remainder the day before so people can avoid Reddit for two days?? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Blanchimont Maxsplaining [M] [score hidden] 5 hours ago (2 children) Yes, we'll make sure to remind everyone before we go dark. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]SolomonG #WeRaceAsOne [score hidden] 3 hours ago* (1 child) So what are you going to do without a bunch of overgrown children to moderate for 3 days? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]MoreIronOre Pirelli Wet [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) Enjoy a break from snarky comments such as yours, I'd reckon. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) [-]CriesInHardtail Red Bull [score hidden] 4 hours ago (34 children) Some subs are extending it. I vote that f1 does too. Shut down for the race weekend. I'll hate it, but it's worth doing. Nobody here is going to seriously care about the articles, and the page-feed of Twitter posts. Make it impactful, extend it at least through quali. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Noch_ein_Kamel [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Are the reddit admins f1 fans? does anyone know? :o Else it might be better to shut off nascar or something :p * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (33 replies) [-]youtossershad1job2do Damon Hill [score hidden] 4 hours ago (0 children) Lots of subs are staying dark until something changes, the 2 days are just the start, will you consider going open ended dark as a show of force? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (8 replies) [-]Kitchen-Pangolin-973 [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) It's site wide, doubt whoever came up with it checked the F1 schedule before setting it up * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]IdiosyncraticBond Max Verstappen [score hidden] 5 hours ago (1 child) So, like ferrari on hard tyres on wet to moist track? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Bitter_Dingo516 Yuki Tsunoda [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Or like Lando Norris during the...I will shut up * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]FakeAccount_Verified Haas [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) random clickbait articles and pictures of moving trucks As a Hass fan this is the best part of the race for us! * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]ndjs22 [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) I like that all my favorite subs are participating. When Reddit changes nothing this blackout period will help ease me into life without Reddit. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]c_zim Lando Norris [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Dammit it's on my off days. I was stoked to go be productive at work and accomplish some things. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]dobsky1912 Hesketh [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) That Ferrari application won't fill out itself... * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]KeytarVillain Sir Lewis Hamilton [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) Yeah, I'm actually selfishly happy Reddit is planning on killing 3rd party apps for this same reason. I've been saying for years I need to spend a lot less time on Reddit, and now it's finally going to happen * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (4 replies) [-]Footlongpenetrator Flavio Briatore [score hidden] 6 hours ago* (14 children) "No reddit no no no that was so not right" * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Ok-Professional-3104 Carlos Sainz [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) It's called redditing. We went redditing * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]DennisKilledMaureen Formula 1 [score hidden] 6 hours ago (2 children) Fucking knew Michael Masi must have been hired at Reddit. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]BradGroux Haas [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Its called preparing for an IPO. We went greedy. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]GramophoneDrums [score hidden] 5 hours ago (1 child) "It's called money, Toto. We went public." * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [+]Brainstreet420 [score hidden] 54 minutes ago (0 children) Spez I just sent you a DM, with diagrams with where the API pricing should be, did you receive that? Spez: No. I don't access my DMs during an IPO. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [+]babyoda_i_am Formula 1 [score hidden] 5 hours ago (2 children) I've sent you an email on the blackout. Have you checked your mail? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]nicePencilCase Green Flag [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) User, I don't have access to user's opinions during a sell out deliberately because I concentrate on the sell out * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ChavaF1 Fernando Alonso [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Copy, we are checking * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]pumbahusajo Yuki Tsunoda [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Michael, I send you a reward * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]cannibalcorpuscle Pirelli Hard [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) It's called a reddit forum, okay? We went shitposting. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]PolyNecropolis [score hidden] 5 hours ago (1 child) "This year all the third party apps have a target on their back." * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [-]liquiiiid Daniel Ricciardo [score hidden] 6 hours ago (7 children) June 12th will be the day Vettel announces he's coming back to partner Alonso for the rest of the year and we won't get to talk about it. I use RIF for 99% of my browsing so I'm all for this shutdown. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Irish_Ducky Sebastian Vettel [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) /sebscribed * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Awesummzzz Pirelli Soft [score hidden] 5 hours ago (1 child) Also a RIF user, if 3rd parties go, I go. I can see the productivity at the end of the tunnel.. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]myFLOWsoRETARDED Max Verstappen [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Boost user here, also gone of this comes thru. I support the blackout, I'm always with as much freedom you can give a man, but silently hope I can get help from reddit to finally forget bout it. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]KoalaLou Daniel Ricciardo [score hidden] 4 hours ago (0 children) I've used RIF exclusively for as long as I've had an Android device, so whenever the Samsung S4 became a thing. I could never go back to the web browser. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Tsukune_Surprise Fernando Alonso [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) Then on June 13th - Vettel, Alonso, and Max will announce their endurance racing team and their entry into LeMans with additional teammates to be announced later. Then in the afternoon, Yuki will announce his guest appearance on WWE and his future appearance at Wrestlemania 2024. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]earthtoannie [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) I want whatever you're having. Then Aston brings some upgrades and we have a 3 way battle for the championship between them two and Max. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Kolec507 [?] Love Is Love [?] [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) And at the same time Leclerc will leave Ferrari and go to McLaren to stop the pain (lol). Hamilton replaces him at Ferrari, Norris replaces Hamilton at Mercedes. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]SkeletonGamer1 Formula 1 [score hidden] 6 hours ago (28 children) 1.3Mil a month? That is honestly robbery * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]FunkAnotherDay Robert Kubica [score hidden] 5 hours ago (3 children) Gotta pay for their catering somehow * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]SkeletonGamer1 Formula 1 [score hidden] 5 hours ago (1 child) I bet ya Reddit's HQ catering must be 3* Michelin restaurants if they need 1.3Mil a month * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [+]Retify [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) It's a subway in the foyer after spez takes their cut * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Suikerspin_Ei Honda [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Reddit took notes of Red Bull Racing's catering or FIA stewards (fines for getting good dinners). * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Jyoti02m McLaren [score hidden] 6 hours ago (1 child) Cost cap breach * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]UESPA_Sputnik Ferrari [score hidden] 4 hours ago (0 children) Just declare it as catering (to the shareholders' whims). * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Gsicht Michael Schumacher [score hidden] 3 hours ago (6 children) This was not designed to make money. This was designed to kill 3rd party apps. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]YourUndoing Formula 1 [score hidden] 2 hours ago (1 child) more accurately, this was designed to kill 3rd party apps to try and gain ad revenue. I understand their predicament but it's a shitty nuclear solution when they could have tried to get a more reasonable number out in front of these third party apps * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]trolleeplyonly7272 [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) I wonder how much ad revenue reddit would bring in if every one of their unpaid moderators stopped moderating.. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [+]l453rl453r [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) It's both * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]danielbauer1375 [score hidden] 1 hour ago (1 child) To make money. From what I understand, third party apps don't show ads, so they aren't generating any revenue by allowing them to exist. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [-]Kaladin-of-Gilead Haas [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) To put it in perspective, that's almost triple than the yearly spend of the entire infrastructure for all customers at my company, and we're actively working on making it cheaper. I don't work for a small company either. 1.3 mil is like doctor evil levels of pricing * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (14 replies) [-]ContentPuff Highlights Team / Russell [score hidden] 6 hours ago (12 children) My own app that I currently use to post highlights fast here to this subreddit acts as a 3rd party Reddit application, which will stop working with this BS change, so thanks for doing this. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]MortalPhantom [score hidden] 4 hours ago (2 children) The secret of hor you post thigns so fast is finalyl revealed * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]BasTiix3 Safety Car [score hidden] 2 hours ago (1 child) Did you have a stroke? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [+]FractalAsshole [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) He's been practicing going fast so long * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Smaddady Daniel Ricciardo [score hidden] 5 hours ago (5 children) There is a free tier with a request limit, something like 600 requests per min iirc. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ialo00130 Pirelli Intermediate [score hidden] 3 hours ago (3 children) On race days If bet he averages way over that. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (1 reply) [-]coombeseh Sir Lewis Hamilton [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) Do you make more than 60 requests a minute? I use the API to make matchday threads on a couple of football subreddits and they will not be affected. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ravenx92 [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) your doing more than 100 queries per minute?!?! * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]OldPayphone Sir Lewis Hamilton [score hidden] 6 hours ago (90 children) Glad this is one of the subs protesting the absolute B.S that Reddit is pulling for more money/to force users into their official apps which are absolutely horrible. 3rd Party apps plus old.reddit are the best ways to use Reddit and it's disgusting that they're trying to take it away. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]elveszett [score hidden] 5 hours ago (50 children) If I can't use old.reddit.com, I don't see the point in using reddit anymore. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]tmndn Niki Lauda [score hidden] 5 hours ago (43 children) Same, can't stand the "new" reddit. Don't understand why they made it in the first place. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]gsfgf Daniel Ricciardo [score hidden] 3 hours ago (2 children) Old reddit has a learning curve. It doesn't seem like much, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least if their market research legitimately showed that new users are more likely to stick around on new reddit. I mean, it's not like it's that much worse than FB or twitter; it's just that old.reddit is actually a really good interface once you get used to it. And the new site has way more space dedicated for ads. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]tmndn Niki Lauda [score hidden] 3 hours ago (1 child) Those ads disguised as posts are the worst for me. New reddit fits in more with the generic rounded edges "clean" modern design that's all the rage now. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]elveszett [score hidden] 4 hours ago (6 children) I understand it, I just find it far less convenient. Old reddit is just a bunch of text. Anything you add to that, takes away from my experience. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]tmndn Niki Lauda [score hidden] 4 hours ago (4 children) I prefer a bunch of text to seeing one and a half posts on a 1440p screen with content being centered so 60% of the screen is blank or shows a sidebar of random posts from 4 years ago. Also it took out all character from customized subreddits and looks like GitHub at home now * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Kaladin-of-Gilead Haas [score hidden] 3 hours ago (2 children) Dude the wasted space is the worst, then you have to constantly keep clicking to expand comment tree's because reddit apparently can't load more than 3 comments at a fucking time or something * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]mobileuseratwork Bruce McLaren [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) It's to measure user interaction... It's bullshit * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]fire202 Formula 1 [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) I prefer a bunch of text to seeing one and a half posts on a 1440p screen with content being centered so 60% of the screen is blank That's why I always use "compact" display mode instead of "card" * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]FPS_Scotland STONKING LAP [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) The most irritating thing to me about new reddit is that when you're viewing a long comment chain, you have to close older ones to view newer ones. It won't let you just see every comment like how old reddit does. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Other_Beat8859 [score hidden] 4 hours ago (1 child) As someone who uses the Reddit app is fucking completely broken. There is literally always one horrible bug that makes its UI painful to use. Currently it's a bug where on posts with multiple images many won't load and will just have a black screen. This includes images that you have already seen and scrolled by them and decided to go back. The app is a fucking disaster. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]fire202 Formula 1 [score hidden] 5 hours ago*[Illuminati] (27 children) When I started using Reddit it was already the new version and looking at the old version I don't understand why anyone would want to use that* instead (*Edit: That = the old version). Always depends on your perspective. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]VampireFrown Robert Kubica [score hidden] 5 hours ago (6 children) Old Reddit is way better design. It's easier to navigate, and quicker to read stuff, because the whole page loads at once vs piecemeal. It's also easier to follow comment chains. New Reddit is just clunky. I too will leave if they stop supporting it. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [+]lonsfury [score hidden] 2 hours ago (2 children) Old reddit also has the 'parent' feature while new doesnt * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies) [-]Syntax_OW BMW Williams [score hidden] 3 hours ago (2 children) I'm just curious if you're using reddit on a desktop/laptop or a mobile device. Old.reddit really is designed for desktop use, whereas new.reddit is designed for mobile. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) [+]jkure2 Haas [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) I'd love to see it from your perspective but unfortunately there are a bunch of ads in my way and once I manage to find it hidden below some random algo recommendation that I didn't ask for, I will have already forgotten why I cared to try * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]berberine Giancarlo Fisichella [score hidden] 2 hours ago (1 child) I've been on Reddit since near the beginning and created an account about a year after it started (if I remember my timeline correctly). I use old.reddit exclusively. I only surf on my desktop. When they switched to the new design, I thought like you did about it. I still don't understand why anyone would want the new version. It's a pain in the ass and not easy to peruse and quickly read and follow what you want. That said, just because I don't like the new UI and I don't use any app on my phone, I wholeheartedly support this blackout. People are at different stages in their life and different stages of their Reddit life. I won't stick around if old.reddit is gone and it would suck to lose people who leave because the apps go away. Like you said, it depends on your perspective, but we should all have that choice. While I can understand why Reddit would charge for API calls, the price is ridiculous and will bite Reddit in the ass in the long run. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [+]emotional_damage_02 Ferrari [score hidden] 3 hours ago (2 children) Even disregarding the design it's a lesser experience with the new reddit * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (11 replies) [-]NABAKLAB [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) it was moving on from "2000's web interface" to "2010's web interface" - bigger buttons, less information, and no dorky customization options, among other stuff that I'm too illiterate to describe. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]SuperSaiyanNoob [score hidden] 52 minutes ago (0 children) They want reddit to be more social media than forum. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]Imperial_Trooper Ayrton Senna [score hidden] 5 hours ago (3 children) Will this kill old.reddit * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ProJoe James Hunt [score hidden] 5 hours ago (2 children) they're saying no, but they also said the same shit about m.reddit and i.reddit. now they're dead. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]SushiRoe [score hidden] 4 hours ago* (1 child) Didn't they also tell devs that the pricing model for developers using the API would be reasonable and not like Twitters? There's also potential future impacts with another loved app/ extension -- Reddit Enhancement Suite (RES). Overall just heading in a direction that the majority of [DEL:people that:DEL] avid redditors do not like. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies) [-]drae- [score hidden] 6 hours ago (17 children) I browse almost exclusively on RIF. I am super sad they're removing this functionality. That said, serving the API requests is not free for reddit. And these 3rd party apps don't serve reddits advertising. From what I've gathered from Mods I've spoken to, third party apps account for like 5% of traffic. I also heard Their API is getting hammered by bots, AI learning, and more basically mining reddit for content and to teach AIs. Stuff reddit really shouldn't be expected to offer for free. It is likely this is really what they're trying to stem by charging for API access, and 3rd party apps are just collateral damage. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]jeppe96 Keviking Magnussen[S,M] [score hidden] 6 hours ago (13 children) It's true that there are some issues and concerns with 3rd parties who are using the APIs for gain, such as AI and bots. We're not asking for the API to be free. We're asking for reasonable pricing for the 3rd party apps that we know people love and that Reddit know exists without any intent to use the API maliciously. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (13 replies) [-]creamyturtle [score hidden] 5 hours ago (1 child) those apps also serve ads for reddit. so like, it's not costing them anything really * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [+]boxer_dogs_dance [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) For the blind, third party is the only option. Visit r/blind * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Maelehn Fernando Alonso [score hidden] 5 hours ago (3 children) Are they even forcing their users? If RIF goes away I'm not gonna be forced into using their mobile app, I'm just not using reddit on my phone at all. I'll simply just browse the site on PC every now and again. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]SirLoremIpsum Daniel Ricciardo [score hidden] 5 hours ago (2 children) Reddit had a little test they were running where they'd force logged out mode on mobile users. So your choices were app or logged out browsing. (Or request desktop site on mobile....) I had it for about 3 days. No message no explanation. Just garbage experience. That's the kind of forcing I expect to see. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (16 replies) [-]nn4260029 Formula 1 [score hidden] 6 hours ago (4 children) Ferrari on the 12th: "Xavi why am I not seeing any posts on r/Formula1?" "Stand by, we are checking" * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]kreatikko [score hidden] 6 hours ago (3 children) A second later: "Box! Box!" * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]insomniaccapricorn Carlos Sainz [score hidden] 5 hours ago (1 child) Stay out! Stay out! * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]NeiloMac David Coulthard [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) "NOOOOOOOOOOO!" * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [+]chessrook4242 [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) "Retire the site. Sorry mate" * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]iqbalsn Rio Haryanto [score hidden] 3 hours ago (1 child) Longer than 48 hours is fine with me. We need to make a statement * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]Rutgherr Bernd Maylander [score hidden] 6 hours ago (3 children) Good. Was hoping /r/Formula1 would join! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+]NemanyaMI [score hidden] 5 hours ago (2 children) Yup more mainstream subreddits the better * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]alus992 Red Bull [score hidden] 5 hours ago (1 child) Im sad that Xbox community seems to be against just because it collides with Summer Games fest. But I'm pleasantly surprised that PS5 joins same as gtaRP and even hiphopheads iirc also * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]Classic_and_Vintage Lotus [score hidden] 6 hours ago (53 children) Man I'm gonna miss this community if Apollo shuts down! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]therendevouswithfish [score hidden] 6 hours ago (43 children) Same. I'm not using Reddit app or website if they 3rd party apps shut down so I will be done. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]glory2you Fernando Alonso [score hidden] 6 hours ago (10 children) I only started Reddit again bc of f1 so I just got the official app. What's the deal with third party apps? Are they just ad free? I never found the ads here to be any more annoying than they are elsewhere. Is that bc I've never tried Reddit before ad free lol * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]gsfgf Daniel Ricciardo [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) They're way better designed. The guy that makes Apollo is a professional iOS developer, and built the app as close as possible to the ideal iOS UX guidelines. Also, the official app clutters your feed with ads and posts from subs you don't subscribe to, so the density of actual content is way lower. If you're literally just coming to /r/formula1, I'm sure the difference is a lot less noticeable, but for us content junkies, it's noticeably worse. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]IAmTheNick Logan Sargeant [score hidden] 2 hours ago (1 child) I'm guessing there are people like me who were here before Reddit had an official app and we just got used to whatever third party we were using and don't like change. Same reason I still use old.reddit on my desktop * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]IvoryFlyaway James Hunt [score hidden] 5 hours ago (4 children) It's not even like the ads block what you're trying to do, like when you have to sit through 30 seconds of an ad on youtube before you can start watching. It's so fucking easy to just keep scrolling right past them and they're no more annoying than the karma-farming, low-effort, bullshit posts that clog up my feed * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]42Ubiquitous [score hidden] 3 hours ago (1 child) No ads are part of it, but there are just a lot of features I like and once you get used to them, going without them sucks. Being forced to downgrade sucks. I'd say that may be one of the biggest factors for most people. People wouldn't be this pissed off about it if it wasn't going to make much of a difference to them. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]IvoryFlyaway James Hunt [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) 100% and wasn't something that I had considered since it's been probably six years since I used RIF, so I've completely forgotten the difference. It reminds me of when a game dev bans mods, or does an update that breaks them, and you have to either just deal with vanilla or take a break until when/if you can have your preferred experience * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]glory2you Fernando Alonso [score hidden] 5 hours ago (1 child) Right? Ok I thought I was the only one missing out on something great about third party apps. I'm sure ppl enjoy things fully ad free and I can appreciate the work put into that but if it's just to block the ads, I just don't get the fuss * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]IvoryFlyaway James Hunt [score hidden] 4 hours ago (0 children) There's probably some nice features on them that'd be hard to let go of if someone was used to them, but I honestly couldn't say because I've been on the official app for years. I do know that it doesn't have accessibility settings and that that's something that people are citing as their reason for protesting. What's funny to me is I never see this kind of support when other companies don't make any similar accommodations, so it comes across as people pretending to give a shit about the disabled to sound sanctimonious when really they're just mad that now they might see the occasional ad. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) [-]Irritatedtrack Sir Lewis Hamilton [score hidden] 5 hours ago (6 children) Why? I am genuinely curious. I use the official Reddit App and I don't have any complaints. Atleast not big enough where I would go away from this subreddit. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]therendevouswithfish [score hidden] 4 hours ago (0 children) u/Irritatedtrack user experience on Reddit official app sucks compared to Apollo App. I could not go back to it, I deleted it after comparing both. Then subscribed to Apollo pro and never looked back. I would have to re-download to even remember the issues now. However it was bad enough I was telling people from work/school that use Reddit to also switch to Apollo and they all made the switch. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ialo00130 Pirelli Intermediate [score hidden] 3 hours ago (2 children) Here's a list as to why the Official app sucks and 3rd party are better: * The official app is harder to navigate than that of Apollo or RIF * There are excessive ads on the official app * The official app auto downloads everything before clicking, so data usage is off the charts * The data tracking goes more in depth as they want access to more permissions on the official app * Mod tools on the official app are harder to use * Accessibility features (such as screen readers for visually impaired) barely work on the official app. * The official app constantly changes with updates that just somehow make the user experience worse. Honestly, if Reddit just listened and built a functioning app with elements from all the 3rd party apps, we wouldn't be in this mess and people would reluctantly move to it. Instead, they refuse to admit their wrongs and instead continue to make it worse. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]Irritatedtrack Sir Lewis Hamilton [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Fair points. The only thing I disagree with is excessive ads. I feel like Instagram shows me more ads than posts. Reddit I think has the lowest density of Ads compared to any other social media. Atleast based on my perception (I could be wrong though). * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]IISuperSlothII Lando Norris [score hidden] 5 hours ago (1 child) I find it so difficult to read the information as it's presented on the official app. I parse information in a way that's just not conducive to how the official app presents it which makes using it honestly a cumbersome eyesore. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]KeepDi9gin Honda [score hidden] 4 hours ago (0 children) You don't see as many posts at a time as you can on a third party app. Same goes for comment threads. You get the first of each thread, but that's it. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (25 replies) [-]naltawaller Ronnie Peterson [score hidden] 6 hours ago (8 children) Yep. Unless they magically fix their app I'll only use reddit when I'm on desktop and as long as old.reddit.com works. If they kill that off too I'll just find something else to waste time on. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (8 replies) [-]Cyanopicacooki Murray Walker [score hidden] 6 hours ago (1 child) I respect your decision, and hope it will achieve something (I personally think that there will be some brinksmanship and an 11th hour reduction in costs - they'll still be too high, but lower than the current forecasts). * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+]Mtwat [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) It's bad buisness to get your users to actively consider quitting your product. You're probably right but this is such a dumb fuck play. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]mecxorn Default [score hidden] 6 hours ago (2 children) Its blackout time. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]PPQue6 Mercedes [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) Sounds like my weekends! * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]Tarmuyi Ferrari [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Almost like they want to kill their own platform. Netflix, Facebook, and now Reddit try to gouge their users for every penny to appease shareholders. In response, they lose users and accelerate their own decline. Stop being greedy cunts, and start working on improving your business instead of your revenue. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]BenedictoCharleston McLaren [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Reddit execs: "Where did all the content go?!" Ferrari pitwall: "...We are checking" * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]deathclient Ferrari / Sebastian Vettel [score hidden] 6 hours ago (5 children) I saw some rumors that they are going to bring back r/place for reddit's 18th birthday in a few weeks. All these protests will get lost and distracted by that. We need to rally across subs to not participate and hit them where it hurts. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]bruzie Bruce McLaren [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Or everyone that does join in just makes it a big "Fuck you reddit" protest image. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]splashbodge Jordan [score hidden] 4 hours ago (1 child) They've done place twice now, it was less exciting the 2nd time, I can't imagine a 3rd time it would wow people when they only did it not long ago * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]ialo00130 Pirelli Intermediate [score hidden] 3 hours ago (1 child) Place was fun the first time, entertaining the second time, I just don't think it'll have the charm the third time around. Especially with Bots not being a part of it (as Bots also use the API) there wouldn't be a rainbow road, black blob, or any other bottles drawings, that made the challenge of keeping your community drawing alive fun. If a large community forms to protest using Place, I can almost guarantee the Admins will step in and just blackout the protest drawings. IIRC, one of the Admins was caught just placing tiles with no timer during the first one. There were no repercussions. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]deathclient Ferrari / Sebastian Vettel [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) So we start inventing(sorry Carlos). The protest is a blackout. So admins will just be helping us protest more by placing black tiles. And a black canvas is no good and needs no coordination. Anyone would just have to place any non black spot and place black. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]clazaa [score hidden] 6 hours ago (1 child) I almost exclusively use Reddit on Sync, so I'm with this movement. See you in Canada, folks! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [+]--MrsNesbitt- [score hidden] 3 hours ago (1 child) I appreciate the F1 community supporting this (writing this comment on Sync Pro rn), but can every subreddit joining in this please stop with the "tEmpORaRy tWo DaY" stuff? This isn't gonna work if you announce a predetermined day where the protest ends and you give up We need more subreddits willing to follow the lead of massive communities like /r/videos and shutting down permanently until Reddit addresses this * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [+]fleeter17 [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) Tell reddit they do not fook smash my APIs * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]cafk Constantly Helpful [score hidden] 6 hours ago (1 child) <3 thanks to the mod team for highlighting this issue and participating - also a hug for /u/F1-Bot, even if you tend to go full bender from time to time. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]Just_an_Empath Ferrari [score hidden] 6 hours ago (17 children) I didn't even know about any 3rd party apps until now. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Zzzonkedx [score hidden] 5 hours ago (3 children) There's a reason why this has caused such an uproar. Reddit is a brilliant site...when you're not using the tools Reddit themselves have provided. I urge you to use Apollo or Reddit is Fun, or any other 3rd party alternative and you'll soon see why having those clients taken away, as well as the bots, is such a big deal. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]normanboulder Formula 1 [score hidden] 4 hours ago (2 children) Been using the main reddit app or desktop for years and have tried other apps like rif and just don't get what the big deal is about using the 3rd party apps. Everything I need to do on reddit can be done just fine on the main app. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]KriistofferJohansson Ferrari [score hidden] 35 minutes ago (0 children) No one is claiming that you can't read/post comments/posts on the official app, they're complaining about the terrible design resulting in awful content density. If you actually compare how comment chains and subreddits look in the official app compared to a third party app you'll quite quickly notice how much space is wasted in the official app. I'm just going to borrow this post with attached screenshots as that explains it quite well: https://old.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/140yes7/_/jmyjnlv That's just part of the issue. Then you've got ads, you're being force fed posts from subreddits you aren't actually following, or how about Reddit not supporting accessibility tools to assist visually impaired users. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]bwoah07_gp2 Alexander Albon [score hidden] 6 hours ago (5 children) Same. I just use the computer, or the mobile site by accessing it through my phone web browser, in this case, Google Chrome. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]SirLoremIpsum Daniel Ricciardo [score hidden] 5 hours ago (1 child) Reddit did an experiment for some mobile users by forcing logged out mode, so your choices are garbage or app. That could happen in the future. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]theRainIsJustAShower [score hidden] 4 hours ago (2 children) Don't they disable access via mobile browser on after you've been doing it for a while -- and tell you to use the app? That's what happened to me. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]desmarais [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Not that I've ever experienced. I use the browser on my phone and use the desktop version of reddit. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]ialo00130 Pirelli Intermediate [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) I've been using RIF for 10+ years over a few accounts. It is my primary way to consume content on the site. Previous to RIF, it was Alien Blue. I tried using the Official app once last year, I just couldn't do it, it sucks. I tried using it again yesterday, and it was much worse. I've come to the conclusion that if RIF goes down, I'll abandon Reddit. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]theRainIsJustAShower [score hidden] 4 hours ago (1 child) Same here as well. New user, was originally just searching for F1 info on my phone and realized there were some good info and insights in posts and comments here. I was content just reading on my phone browser and my involvement may have never changed if it stayed that way; but at some point Reddit told me I can't do that anymore and need to download the app. I thought it (the official app) works fine and provides nice views, although I can't argue if you tell me it's because I don't know better. I see I get ads ("promoted" posts) based on my geolocation but they're easily recognizable I've never once clicked on one. So other than that it takes up some place as "noise" against the "signal" posts I'm looking for, I'm ok wth just ignoring them knowing that the company needs to put some ads to make money. Feature-wise I wish there was a way to filter out all posts with a certain flair, and personally I'd also like to see comments within a post in chronological order (from the old ones), which I've found are not possible on the official app. But then it's not inconvenience enough for me to go look for an alternative solution. If I sound like I don't care or I'm against the blackout, don't get me wrong. I've read the post's photo slides -- it was a single long vertical image so it was a bit hard to read! -- and the OP comment. I can only imagine the effort by people who've been here for years who've supported the sub to make it what it is and I respect that. And generally open stuff, standards, APIs, they're great to get people engaged. If they're practically shutting down API access then it shouldn't go unchecked. I just thought I'd share the perspective of someone who's only used the official app, as a reference point. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]ajchann123 [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) I think your opinion is just as valid as everyone else's -- I've been using reddit for almost 10 years now, and from my perspective the site has become a bit bloated/clunky and old.reddit.com in the browser and these 3rd party apps allow me to go back to the lighter experience I fell in love with But subjective views aside, I think the biggest issues here are that 1. The official app has barely any accessibility settings, and most redditors with disabilities can only really engage with the site through these apps 2. These apps provide lots of customization and tools that many mods use. Bots are also using this same API access, which also act as a big tool for mods and users 3. This whole approach has been disingenuous bullshit. I could almost respect them more if they just said no more 3rd party apps /bots * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (4 replies) [-]0ldpenis McLaren [score hidden] 3 hours ago (4 children) Cancel your Reddit premium subscription * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Netionic Netflix Newbie [score hidden] 3 hours ago (1 child) Wait, people actually pay for that?! * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]0ldpenis McLaren [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Yea it's hard to imagine. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) [-]comagnum [score hidden] 4 hours ago (3 children) I applaud the people that will stick to their guns on this one but I'm not sure it'll make a difference. It's all about shareholders now. A 2 day blip in user count won't hurt their valuation enough to prevent them from moving forward with any way they can make money to satiate the greed. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]ProfessionalPlant330 McLaren [score hidden] 4 hours ago (0 children) I agree, shutdown indefinitely like some of the other big subs instead of just 2 days * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) [-]istealgrapes Racing Point [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) Yessss respect for this. Enjoy your mini-vacation mods! And thanks for your awesome work, this is one of the best subs by far because of you * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]piratemurray Lando Norris [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Full support . I'm getting Toto to send some emails too. Fuck Reddit. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+]Kelmantis [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) It's lights out and away we go * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+]Firefox72 Ferrari [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) Good. Screw reddit for trying to pull that BS. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]paulcraig27 [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) Stand by the decision and glad you are joining in! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]crownlessdriver Honda [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) We went protesting, Reddit * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]wurtin Haas [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) absolutely support this. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]capitan_tomate George Russell [score hidden] 4 hours ago (3 children) Explain it in F1 terms * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]zippy72 Minardi [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) The organisers want to raise the circuit fees so the drivers are going to no show for the race. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]jeppe96 Keviking Magnussen[S,M] [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Liberty decides that teams have to pay EUR1.000.000 per lap raced, with the expense counting towards the cost cap. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [+]cyberdeath666 [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Two days is not going to financially hurt enough for them to back down. Make it a month and we'll see. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]FuckTheMankind [score hidden] 6 hours ago (9 children) No 3rd party apps means no reddit for me * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]LATD Red Bull [score hidden] 5 hours ago (8 children) Why? I have tried a few and always go back to the Reddit app. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]PJkeeh Sir Lewis Hamilton [score hidden] 3 hours ago (2 children) Same reason I still use old.reddit.com, less bloat. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [+]Firestarman [score hidden] 2 hours ago (1 child) That's going away too * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]PJkeeh Sir Lewis Hamilton [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) I don't doubt it. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (5 replies) [-]BioDriver Valtteri Bottas [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) Glad y'all are hopping on. Reddit is making a huge mistake and if they follow through with this then my mobile experience is over. If they ever ax old.Reddit then I'm out for good * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]GlennethGould [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Rare mod W * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]lazybeef [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Isn't Reddit also moving the NSFW content to the official Reddit app only? So even if the 3rd party apps continue they will lose access to anything marked NSFW? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]thebanjobob [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) 48 hours is not enough. This will not change anything. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+]Arylcyclohexy [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) You should extend the blackout indefinitely and move to a different platform. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+]TeamAquaAdminMatt [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) Don't stop after 48 hours, keep the blackout until they fix this. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+]UpdootsAreOverrated [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) I don't think 3 days isn't going to be enough, you really oughta follow the lead of r/videos and shut down until Reddit fixes their shit * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]mcninja77 #WeSayNoToMazepin [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) Glad to see you all joining in. I'm behind this decision like the rest of the grid is behind max * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]s_dalbiac [score hidden] 1 hour ago (3 children) Am I the only person who uses the official Reddit app? * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply load more comments (3 replies) [+]Spend-Automatic [score hidden] 1 hour ago (0 children) So many huge subreddits joining this worthy cause, it's just unfortunate that they are all sharing the same hideous infographic. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]MrRiotRick Max Verstappen [score hidden] 54 minutes ago (0 children) Thank you. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]makeitra1n_ Fernando Alonso [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) ALL THE TIME TIME-A YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE 3RD PARTY APPS ALIVE! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Ashdown McLaren [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) 100% support. Cock move by reddit. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]NewtRipley_1986 Michael Schumacher [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Thanks for the update and thanks for participating. Reddit is being greedy AF! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]WannabeTraveler87 Sergio Perez [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Lets go! I'm proud of this move! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]stirredturd [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Good on you guys. This is my favorite sub and I love reading and contributing. And Apollo has been the best way to do so. Crying shame what reddit has decided is fair. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]exit143 Flair Design Team [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Awesome!! Thank you. I don't use 3rd party apps, but I support everyone who does. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]elmiggii [score hidden] 4 hours ago (0 children) All popular apps shoot themselves in the foot. Look at FB, they wanted more money from advertising and now nobody uses it because it's just 99% ads. Same thing is going to happen to YouTube at the rate they are increasing ads. These guys get greedy and end up losing most of their following. Only a matter of time before a "new" YouTube like site shows up with fewer ads and everyone migrates. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Natus_est_in_Suht Super Aguri [score hidden] 5 hours ago (21 children) Reddit's a private enterprise. Other private enterprises have been piggybacking off Reddit for a long time to make money for themselves but are not contributing to the costs of running and operating Reddit. Now Reddit wants these other private enterprises to contribute and help offset the daily running costs of Reddit. No issues with Reddit from me on this. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+]ob_servant1 [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Reddit is upset that they're missing out on a potential <5% increase of revenue. Reddit is making $100s of millions more every year, probably soon to be closer to a billion in revenue before the end of this decade. All on a website that doesn't generate it's own content. Free money basically. And they're upset about missing out on peanuts? Nah fuck that. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]vivvysaur21 Kimi Raikkonen [score hidden] 4 hours ago (2 children) The issue isn't about them charging for the api. It's about charging $2.5 a month for api access for the average user when they make something like 15 cents right now. It's clearly a move to kill 3rd party apps so that more users move on to their official app boosting their numbers for the upcoming IPO. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply [-]almightygarlicdoggo [score hidden] 2 hours ago (1 child) People are blindly following this protest without knowing the actual reason for the price changes. Screwing over 3rd party developers is a consequence, but not the reason for the change. It's about setting a price to reddit's data so AI can't use it for free as it has been doing it until now. They can't force a privacy policy on 3rd party apps so the only option they have is this. I know it sucks but it's the direction every website is going to take in the following months to stop AI from taking their data for free. Not doing anything is just helping those AI's run freely through all this data. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (1 reply) [-]DiabloTable992 [score hidden] 3 hours ago (2 children) Your use of the words "contribute" and "help offset" makes me think you must be a politician, or the CEO of a large food producer. Charging far beyond the actual costs of the API usage and far beyond the actual revenues of the 3rd party developers does not meet the definition of those words. Either Reddit are incompetent and can't do basic calculations, or they are deliberately trying to put the 3rd parties out of business. Sadly for Reddit, their subreddit moderators are all volunteers and make great use of 3rd party apps to assist them in their tasks, so Reddit will find it difficult to completely pull the rug out from under their users in this way. Realistically, they cannot force the mods to keep moderating their subreddits because they are not on the payroll. That's a choice Reddit made to save money, and this is the consequence. Unpaid moderators save Reddit from huge potential legal and reputational liabilities, so it's much the same thing as what you describe. A private enterprise freeloading from other people's work for years. At the end of the day, these tech company IPO's are a complete con. As soon as you try to monetise something that is effectively just a free social media platform, there will always be another startup ready to steal all the users and run itself at a loss for a few years. That's why Reddit is where it is in recent years (see Digg), and one day it will be a different platform. * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (14 replies) [-]WalkTheEdge Ferrari [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) Great decision, I'm 100% behind this. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Slippynippy69 Mercedes [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) Common r/formula1 W * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Grasbytron Williams [score hidden] 4 hours ago* (0 children) Do it until the proposed API changes and charges are dropped entirely. A two day blackout is symbolic, but not really meaningful. Every sub participating in the blackout should do it indefinitely with the above aims as the resolution. Only with a permanent, noticeable, drop in traffic will the higher ups at Reddit take notice. Edit: that said, well done to the sub for taking a stand. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [+]Yatima21 [score hidden] 6 hours ago (0 children) Do an indefinite blackout you cowards * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]sephirothwasright Max Verstappen [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Thank you, I got a little worried there for a second. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]vivvysaur21 Kimi Raikkonen [score hidden] 5 hours ago (0 children) Good. Was about to ask if we're doing this in the DDT. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]I_WishIKnewUWantedMe [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Great to see, it's so important to remember it's not just a hurr durr 3rd party apps are better. 3rd party apps are needed for mods because the official app is subpar, and secondly for the blind, as Reddit's mobile apps are terrible for accessibility * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]Pece17 Nigel Mansell [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) Take arms, Redditors! * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]FluidGate9972 [score hidden] 2 hours ago (0 children) Good stuff. Let's hope we can turn this shit around. If not, Reddit is dead. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]DeckardCain_ Max Verstappen [score hidden] 3 hours ago (0 children) I see a shutdown post, I upvote. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]OverallImportance402 Pirelli Wet [score hidden] 5 hours ago* (22 children) So third party apps making millions of Reddit for free is good? Like you can discuss the amount and a fair-use policy but it's bullshit that API access for large third parties should be free, while they at the same time monetize that free access themselves. * permalink * embed * save * report * give award * reply [-]CRAZEDDUCKling Ferrari [score hidden] 3 hours ago (2 children) So third party apps making millions of Reddit for free Which apps would that be? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (2 replies) [-]Auntypasto Jim Clark [score hidden] 3 hours ago (4 children) Where's this evidence that 3rd party apps are making millions off Reddit? * permalink * embed * save * parent * report * give award * reply load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (14 replies) load more comments (255 replies) * about * blog * about * advertising * careers * help * site rules * Reddit help center * reddiquette * mod guidelines * contact us * apps & tools * Reddit for iPhone * Reddit for Android * mobile website * <3 * reddit premium * reddit coins Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. 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