[HN Gopher] Librem 5 availability lead time quietly reduced from...
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       Librem 5 availability lead time quietly reduced from 52 to 20 weeks
        
       Author : Hackbraten
       Score  : 14 points
       Date   : 2023-05-18 15:27 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | rationalist wrote:
       | I don't think it was "quiet". Their latest email said the Librem
       | 5 will be in stock in July (pre-order commitments finally
       | fulfilled).
        
       | jandrese wrote:
       | A _full year_ lead time on a laptop seems insane to me. I like
       | supporting open hardware companies, but am not so keen on
       | supporting companies that can 't seem to get their shit together.
       | Even 5 months is a good long wait.
        
         | piperswe wrote:
         | The Librem 5 is a phone, not a laptop. Though a year lead time
         | on a phone is probably even worse than on a laptop.
        
       | xupybd wrote:
       | I'm surprised people are returning this. It's an ideologically
       | driven product. I'd expect it to have a few more warts than your
       | typical consumer product.
       | 
       | The trade off is that you get a totally open source phone. For
       | some people that is important. For others it's not, but why would
       | they pre-order if it's not?
        
         | throwaway81523 wrote:
         | People might be willing to pay more and wait longer for an open
         | source phone, but when they finally get the phone they do still
         | expect it to not suck. So high returns suggests that the phone
         | sucks after all. I would say that the Nokia N9 UI was well
         | designed, but the phone or its software was so slow it was
         | almost unusable. If I had paid full price for mine I would have
         | been pissed.
        
           | xupybd wrote:
           | I see what you're saying. I guess I expect these sorts of
           | things to suck.
        
       | Hackbraten wrote:
       | Old snapshot from 2023-05-15: [0]
       | 
       | New snapshot from 2023-05-18: [1]
       | 
       | For the first time in years, availability lead time for the (non-
       | USA) Librem 5 seems to have been quietly slashed from 52 weeks to
       | 20 weeks.
       | 
       | [0]:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20230515022643/https://puri.sm/p...
       | 
       | [1]:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20230518152612/https://puri.sm/p...
        
       | woopwoop24 wrote:
       | Summary: With apologies for the delay, we are now preparing your
       | Librem 5 to ship and need you to read this email carefully with
       | replying until May 01, 2023.
       | 
       | i ordered mine on 14.10.2019
        
       | Hackbraten wrote:
       | I've accidentally submitted a non-permanent link. Please edit,
       | thanks!
       | 
       | The correct permalink would be:
       | 
       | https://forums.puri.sm/t/has-purism-refunded-you-is-purism-g...
        
       | throwaway81523 wrote:
       | Reduced lead time because nobody was buying? Meh.
        
       | spit2wind wrote:
       | Took 3 years to get mine. I didn't sign up for call service and
       | can't comment on call quality. They push updates regularly and
       | the quality consistently improves. It could hardly take a picture
       | when I got it. Now, it takes a decent photo. As others have
       | commented, the product is ideologically driven. That's the main
       | buy-in for me--I'd like to see more free software in consumer
       | products. At the very least, it's an expensive and fun pocket
       | computer. Maybe its vision reaches full fruition. Maybe it helps
       | the next attempt to open up mobile.
        
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