[HN Gopher] Twitter starts limiting how many Tweets you can post...
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Twitter starts limiting how many Tweets you can post per Day
Author : CHEF-KOCH
Score : 92 points
Date : 2023-02-08 21:55 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| sillysaurusx wrote:
| minimaxir pointed out a brilliant trick to sidestep the Twitter
| problem: schedule a tweet for 1m into the future.
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34716411
|
| I haven't tested it, and it doesn't seem to work for replies (no
| way to schedule those) but it seemed worth mentioning.
|
| EDIT: Twitter seems up now.
| https://twitter.com/theshawwn/status/1623454832257548288
| mjmsmith wrote:
| Blue checkmarks are posting 4k tweets and using up all the
| characters.
| alpb wrote:
| This is 100% in response to Turkey banning twitter in the middle
| of earthquake response, and Elon Musk bowing down to the terms of
| the authoritarian government. Instead of applying it locally,
| they applied it globally.
| LoveMortuus wrote:
| Strange... for some reason, I don't mind not being able to tweet,
| it's like Twitter is trying to tell me to not waste my time~
| boastful_inaba wrote:
| Tweetdeck is also down if you're set to the non-preview
| interface, stuck in a loop of login and instant logouts. The
| Tweetdeck Preview works (and you can access this by clearing all
| cookies) but keeps hitting a rate limit. I hope the rumors of
| TweetDeck becoming a premium feature are not true - I could never
| hope to catch everything without use of all those columns at
| once.
| leviathant wrote:
| I'm seeing this accidental glimpse into a future where the only
| content on Twitter is paid content as a gift. I've had trouble
| quitting Twitter, but it looks like Twitter's got no problem
| quitting me.
|
| DMs are erroring for me, and the Android native app just tweets
| into the void. This issue seems to be roughly aligned with the
| announcement that paid accounts will have a 4000 character limit.
| As expected, status.twitter.com suggests Twitter is, in green-
| colored text, operational.
| alfalfasprout wrote:
| A lot of non-knowledgable folks expected twitter to immediately
| collapse after firing half their engineers. Instead, this is
| what that kind of failure looks like. Functionality starts to
| become flaky, some non operational entirely. You can't rely on
| the status page anymore. Innovation rapidly plateaus. Quality
| of service suffers on the whole.
|
| Rome didn't fall in a day.
| phoe-krk wrote:
| _> Rome didn 't fall in a day._
|
| Freenode didn't either, but this Twitter thing seriously
| gives me the same sort of vibes.
| MonkeyClub wrote:
| > Rome didn't fall in a day.
|
| But a few hours were enough for Pompeii.
|
| There's always hope :)
| lend000 wrote:
| In fairness, I have yet to see a first party status page that
| reliably detects all outages.
| gibolt wrote:
| Many intentionally don't show outages. Amazon is generally
| quite picky about what is considered an AWS service outage
| samb1729 wrote:
| This website is the real status page for me
| leviathant wrote:
| I'll give credit where it's due, Shopify's status page is
| pretty reliable at showing downtime as it happens.
| mikeyouse wrote:
| One of the worst things about the "new Twitter" is that the
| "old Twitter" provided so much surplus to the world in terms
| of the open source work their engineers did, all the design
| frameworks, the neat technical blogs, the sponsored events
| and whimsical nature of the company. It felt very much in the
| original spirit of Silicon Valley. It was a fine, if slightly
| underperforming company who had ~infinite runway to fix
| things as they had billions of dollars in the bank and were
| roughly break-even profitable.
|
| "New Twitter" feels like the worst version of private equity
| LBO capitalism. Suddenly the rationale for every decision is
| entirely extractive finance; load the company with debt to
| juice your shareholder returns, fire everyone who can't be
| proven to be profitable, break your leases, close your
| offices, kill all perks, cease all meetings of your employee
| affinity groups, make sure nobody is working on projects that
| don't have a straight-line to revenue growth, squeeze every
| dollar out of your users, monetize any surplus that you were
| previously providing while relying on inertia to keep your
| users through the much worse user experience.
|
| Elon-era Twitter is basically 2000s-era Sears -- and man is
| it depressing that people are cheering it on.
| tmpz22 wrote:
| Hard not to think Musk's entourage and zealotry for layoffs
| didn't provide cover for the more recent tech layoff
| sprees.
|
| "2 day a week office requirement = 20% voluntary
| departures," Calacanis wrote. "Day zero...sharpen your
| blades boys."
|
| [1]: https://www.yahoo.com/video/elon-musk-jason-calacanis-
| messag...
| nimbius wrote:
| im also not sure you can really correlate the fall of rome to
| a single oligarch hitman although im sure some of the HN
| history buffs could correct me.
|
| the whole saga still gobsmacks me to this day. one of the
| wealthiest men in america tantrum-spends 44 billion dollars
| on a website, then goes through an agonizing six months
| pretending he didnt have to buy it and is eventually _forced_
| by a judge to complete the acquisition. next, said oligarch
| fumbles the execution so badly the company basically winds up
| firing everyone it can and accidentally lock themselves out
| of the headquarters for the weekend in the process.
| Eventually the man himself, Musk, desperately pleads for
| "anyone who writes code" to meet him in the dead of night on
| the tenth floor of his now empty office only to wind up with
| midlevel managers pledging their fidelity as the vichy
| scramble to find their place in the new order and various
| services begin to fail. Finally, mercifully, Musk is hauled
| back to Tesla where share prices are tumbling almost as
| quickly as twitter users are jumping ship, but not before
| unshackling a prison full of reprobates and racists to rejoin
| the site by un-suspending their accounts.
| thinknubpad wrote:
| [dead]
| alfalfasprout wrote:
| I'm not focusing on a single "hitman" taking down Rome. Who
| really knows but it was a multitude of factors. My point
| here is that large systems don't typically acutely fail.
| It's more of a gradual process of rust and decay that
| accelerates them into irrelevance.
|
| Your point about what a total mess this was is absolutely
| spot on though. It didn't have to end like this. This was a
| tragedy of blunders.
| adamrezich wrote:
| the best part was all the so-sure-they're-right HN takes
| that ended up being absolutely incorrect every step of the
| way
| semerda wrote:
| A lot of folks aren't open to change and see change and
| experiments as frightening yielding biased conclusions.
|
| It's fine to have opinions but drawing bold conclusions is
| best done with factual data over a longer time horizons.
| mjfl wrote:
| > Innovation rapidly plateaus.
|
| Yeah when I think of innovation I think of Twitter, and when
| I think of stagnation, I think of Elon Musk - the guy with
| the rocket company /s.
| AustinDev wrote:
| I've had a bug on Twitter iOS for nearly a year where if I'm on
| cellular network it cannot connect. I can go to the website
| fine using desktop user agent but the app will not load tweets.
| All other apps work fine. The app starts working again when I
| get on a wifi network.
| r00fus wrote:
| Could it be something OS config related? I recently migrated
| phones without "upgrading" (I do this every other upgrade)
| and realized I put in some draconian lockdowns on my old
| phone that prevented me from seeing Twitter at all in the
| browser. New phone worked fine.
| 0x0 wrote:
| Have you checked settings > cellular to see if you might have
| accidentally denied mobile data usage for that particular
| app?
| bradtheappguy wrote:
| If you are on iOS there is a per-app setting where you can
| disable cellular data for a particular app. It's possible you
| inadvertently turned that on for Twitter - Its a mistake I've
| made before and convinced myself I had a bug in my app.
| [deleted]
| SV_BubbleTime wrote:
| I wish I was surprised at the pettiness that seeing Twitter
| clearly having some internal issue - the willingness of people
| who consider themselves adults to drink it up as hate fuel
| against the bad man they think switched "teams".
| [deleted]
| jyriand wrote:
| This must be a divine intervention. I was just about to tweet
| some insomniac crazy tweets and got an error.
| anyfoo wrote:
| Whenever you are about to post something, anywhere in general,
| ask yourself: Why? What are you trying to get out of that? Are
| you adding meaningful information? Are you trying to advance a
| particular cause (which can just be a small personal one, but
| at least any cause at all)?
|
| Note that I'm obviously not saying any online discourse is for
| naught.
|
| But during and after your "social media experience", for lack
| of a better term, do you feel better or worse, and if not
| better, did you at least accomplish something?
| jyriand wrote:
| Usually I don't post random stuff. But haven't slept for a
| few days because of stomach flu, feeling like a drunk, and
| this inhibits my judgment.
| arcticfox wrote:
| I was about to Tweet for the first time in many months when I
| ran into this and looked up what was going on, bizarre timing.
| Good thing though, stopped me from coming back!
| __mharrison__ wrote:
| Just hit this and felt like I had a existential crisis... Did
| Musk finally takedown Twitter?
| eat_veggies wrote:
| I think they're having an incident. I can't follow people, post,
| or load messages right now.
| samb1729 wrote:
| Likewise! I thought I had been randomly banned before finding
| this post.
| radicalbyte wrote:
| tweetdeck.twitter.com is down with an auth error - they've
| YOLO'd themselves to death.
| lrae wrote:
| Sounds like they tried to restrict and killed an/their own
| ("unofficial") API, and shot themselves into the foot.
| TillE wrote:
| Definitely the kind of mistake that gets made after losing an
| enormous fraction of your institutional knowledge.
| dzhiurgis wrote:
| Same here - can't post.
| peterhil wrote:
| I can't post, retweet or follow. Loading Tweets work.
| [deleted]
| outworlder wrote:
| Same, can't follow, it will say that I've reached the follower
| limit. Checked documentation, not even close.
| mholt wrote:
| I've tweeted once today.
|
| I'm now over the limit for sending tweets.
|
| (I pay for Twitter Blue)
| shaunxcode wrote:
| working as intended
| 1270018080 wrote:
| I think someone pushed the wrong thing to prod.
| shredprez wrote:
| "Free speech maximalist"
| ncr100 wrote:
| Should be rewritten ".. minimalist", by inspection.
| r00fus wrote:
| Perhaps he meant he's a free speech maxi-pad?
| l_s_ wrote:
| did he try restarting the server?
| partiallypro wrote:
| This isn't because of some policy, it's some sort of error. I
| can't even post on an account (via the app) I haven't been active
| in in months but unlike the web browser it simply fails. DMs also
| don't load.
| webworker wrote:
| I guess I'm glad I still have my static blog website (that I also
| use as a microblog if the occasion fits)
| dvh wrote:
| What is the limit? Article doesn't say.
| sli wrote:
| The error people are getting links to this page:
| https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-limit...
|
| tl;dr:
|
| * 500 DMs (yes, direct messages)
|
| * 2400 tweets
|
| * 4 account email changes
|
| * 400 follows
|
| * Additional restrictions once an account following 5000 people
| total
| rideontime wrote:
| 2,400 per day, according to Twitter:
| https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-limit...
| SV_BubbleTime wrote:
| Oh, cool, so it will effect bots and a couple people who
| could use the corrective nudge. Thanks for that.
| marcinzm wrote:
| Based on other comments this isn't the actual limit (ie: it's
| much lower) or the current implementation is broken.
| krisroadruck wrote:
| This seems pretty reasonable honestly. Who the heck needs to
| tweet more often than 100 tweets per hour continuously?
| omoikane wrote:
| Bots, probably.
| [deleted]
| partiallypro wrote:
| Wasn't working earlier, now it appears to be working now. I saw a
| rumor this morning that they were making TweetDeck Blue only, and
| I wonder if some sort of Twitter update regarding that move broke
| things.
| softwaredoug wrote:
| This random forum may have crashed. But here's the techcrunch
| article
|
| https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/08/twitter-tweet-limit-bug-er...
| izzygonzalez wrote:
| It's an error. You can get around the limit by scheduling a tweet
| a minute into the future or using the API to tweet/reply.
| ncr100 wrote:
| Ooo good find.
|
| Sounds like the clock for rate-limiting is improperly
| centralized, in my speculation.
| onion2k wrote:
| You can if you want to. Nothing I tweet is important enough to
| bother. If it doesn't come back I just won't post any more.
|
| Just like millions of other people.
| navanchauhan wrote:
| I am not sure how long the API will last. They have already
| said that they will be limiting the usage of the free API to
| "good bots"
| janoc wrote:
| I have just received the "You are over the daily limit of sending
| tweets" message. Sent three (!) tweets today.
|
| Couldn't think of a better way to kill the user retention and
| engagement.
|
| Well done, Twitter!
| m3kw9 wrote:
| What's the limit? Depending on that it could increase signal to
| noise. It would only affect accounts that is at tail end of the
| bell, ie bots and some extreme accounts that usually annoys the
| crap out of me.
|
| Let's wait for the official before pouncing
| lamontcg wrote:
| I've posted two replies in the past 3 days (which is towards the
| high end of my use) and I'm limited.
|
| I think this is a write/posting outage/incident.
|
| Firing everyone seems to be working out well for stability.
| topspin wrote:
| Twitter wasn't all that stable before Musk.
| X6S1x6Okd1st wrote:
| What year are you talking about?
| VWWHFSfQ wrote:
| I haven't tweeted in months and just tried it:
|
| > You are over the daily limit for sending Tweets.
|
| What absolute shitshow is going on at Twitter?
| jeffbee wrote:
| Yes it's clearly an outage and seems to effect not only posting
| but also notifications (not getting any) and DMs (I can't even
| load my DM page).
| kimbernator wrote:
| I tried to tweet today for the first time in weeks and it said
| I had hit the limit.
| nkozyra wrote:
| Luckily, 0 is also my personal limit for tweets these days.
| zymhan wrote:
| > I am using ModernDeck 2 as Twitter client
|
| Isn't Twitter banning 3rd party clients?
| Flozzin wrote:
| I can't follow or tweet using their official
| website(twitter.com).
| rcarmo wrote:
| It would be hilarious if Twitter used a footgun to disable API
| access and blocked itself. The deadline was this week, right?
| VWWHFSfQ wrote:
| I believe that they have a number of internal systems that were
| relying on the ability to consume the public API "firehose" and
| now that it's been turned off, they're failing.
| noer wrote:
| https://twitter.com/revhowardarson/status/162344935250406605...
| dmonitor wrote:
| is this someone close to twitter's inner workings? if not,
| can we stop pretending that random people have insight as to
| what is happening at twitter.
| rmm wrote:
| I am getting errors on a number of sites. Is this a twitter only
| problem or something bigger?
| partyguy wrote:
| seems like pretty much everyone is getting this error right now -
| logged into an account I haven't tweeted with today and also got
| that error
|
| ...time to move to spacehey I guess
| evrflx wrote:
| I could not add a new follow with the Twitter app on iOS. Message
| was that I reached a limit. First time I really felt a change
| since Twitter moved. Strange feeling to be limited for no reason
| and anticipating the future with payment required for everything.
| taytus wrote:
| This just happened to me! And I'm following fewer than 900
| people.
| squegles wrote:
| There is an incident for sure. Cant tweet unless you schedule it.
| Cant follow any new accounts.
| psikomanjak wrote:
| so pay to tweet from now on?
| klyrs wrote:
| Hopefully they'll charge to read 'em too
| code51 wrote:
| Are you serious Twitter? In the middle of an earthquake disaster
| in Turkey where people try to collect list of people alive under
| the rubble?
| rejectfinite wrote:
| Twitter is not really the platform for that type of organizing.
| They are 100% on Whatsapp though.
|
| There is always going to be something happening somewhere also.
| code51 wrote:
| You're aware that this has affected Turkey and Syria, in
| Turkey affected 10 cities, basically erased half of them from
| the map, right?
|
| This is not _any_ disaster. This is _the_ disaster after 99.
| kimbernator wrote:
| Sounds like Turkey blocked twitter anyways
| code51 wrote:
| It's back on now (mostly)
| sillysaurusx wrote:
| In Turkey? That's interesting. I wonder what changed.
|
| Where'd you learn about that?
| code51 wrote:
| People pressured for Twitter to open. Prominent figures
| on live TV mentioned this as well, loud and clear.
| bloopernova wrote:
| The billionaire probably is thinking "oooh! sounds like a
| captive market!"
| nolok wrote:
| Doesn't matter, Erdogan just blocked Twitter again because
| people were asking why was the government not being competent
| and where were the funds from the special earthquake relief
| tax.
| [deleted]
| adamrezich wrote:
| starting a few minutes ago:
|
| - twitter prevented me from posting any more tweets "for the day"
|
| - "#facebookdown" started trending on twitter
|
| - "#instagramdown" started trending on twitter
|
| all of this happening around the House hearing. curious.
| kneebonian wrote:
| What house hearing? Sorry I seem to be out of the loop?
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