[HN Gopher] Handbook for Writers (2015)
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       Handbook for Writers (2015)
        
       Author : bhy
       Score  : 104 points
       Date   : 2022-09-12 12:19 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | isaacfrond wrote:
       | For eReaders, here is the book as an integral pdf
       | 
       | https://2012books.lardbucket.org/pdfs/writers-handbook.pdf
        
         | jmt_ wrote:
         | What's meant by "integral" in this context?
        
           | hoppyhoppy2 wrote:
           | > _integral: 2. Possessing everything essential; entire._
           | 
           | one PDF with everything in it as opposed to, say, one file
           | (or webpage) per chapter
        
       | kayodelycaon wrote:
       | Handbook for _non-fiction_ writers. :)
       | 
       | If you're writing a novel, a lot of this doesn't directly apply.
        
         | cookie_monsta wrote:
         | Really, a lot of bad fiction writing could be fixed if writers
         | were more aware of fundamentals like these. Of course there is
         | art that goes into writing a novel, but there's a lot of craft,
         | too. "Know the rules well, so you can break them effectively"
         | is a saying I had always attributed to jazz musicians, but the
         | interweb seems to think it was the Dalai Lama who said it.
         | Either way, it applies to almost every field I can think of.
        
           | kayodelycaon wrote:
           | I happen to agree. For example, the sections on grammar are
           | directly applicable.
           | 
           | However, if you're going to write fiction, you'll need to
           | unlearn a good half of it because you learned tools and
           | techniques designed for a different medium.
           | 
           | It's like skis vs snowshoes. Sure, there's common stuff to
           | them (like dressing in layers) but snowshoes don't slide very
           | well. :)
        
             | cookie_monsta wrote:
             | I think there's are a lot more crossover than that. The
             | thing that needs to be almost universally unlearnt when
             | switching mediums is academic writing. Writing fiction and
             | non-fiction for a general audience, most of the same rules
             | apply.
             | 
             | Of course it all depends on what you call good writing. For
             | me the best writing to come out of the 20th century were
             | journalists like Hemingway (and about 1% of his
             | imitators/peers) who applied the rules of journalism to
             | fiction and the "new journalists" who applied the
             | techniques of novel writing to journalism (and then in
             | Wolfe's case went back the other way).
        
               | kayodelycaon wrote:
               | I'm specially referring genre fiction, which isn't quite
               | up to the academic standards of Hemingway. :)
        
               | cookie_monsta wrote:
               | Dunno what genre fiction is really, but a quick search
               | tells me it's popular or bestsellers? Which is kind of
               | funny because that's what Hemmingway would have been back
               | in the day - really to me the opposite of academic style.
               | Short sentences, no fancy words, no extraneous waffle
               | just to show you how clever he is. It's kind of ironic
               | that he's seen as this inaccessible literary giant when
               | pretty much the hallmark of his style is its
               | accessibility.
        
       | solidist wrote:
       | Can someone provide the important cliff notes?
        
         | fifticon wrote:
         | It's the opposite, it's all those little details and an
         | overview of what goes into writing a proper book (and other
         | things). It is a collection of all that which you may not know
         | when first starting out. It is not everything, but it is a good
         | starting point
        
       | dljsjr wrote:
       | Clicking on "Licensing Information" and drilling down a few more
       | links gets to the meat of what this is[1] (TL;DR: It's an archive
       | of a Creative Commons licensed edition of an undergrad college
       | text book. For those wondering who the target audience is:
       | undergrads):
       | 
       | > What is this?
       | 
       | > First off, this is not the website for the original publisher.
       | Instead, this is the archive of a small project by aschmitz to
       | archive Creative Commons-licensed copies of all the books which
       | were available online from a specific publisher at the end of
       | 2012. (That publisher has asked to remain unnamed here. For more
       | information, see the attribution page.)
       | 
       | > That publisher is a textbook publisher, focusing on (mostly
       | entry-level) college textbooks. From their beginning until the
       | end of 2012, they licensed all of their books under a Creative
       | Commons by-nc-sa 3.0 license, allowing anyone who so desired to
       | copy them, give them away, or modify them, as long as they
       | acknowledged the authors, released the copies under the same
       | license, and didn't do so for commercial gain. This was an
       | unusual model, but they hoped it would work. (They sold access to
       | additional study materials, as well as copies of books that would
       | fit well on e-readers.)
       | 
       | > In late 2012, they decided that the process of giving away
       | access to their textbooks online wasn't working, and decided to
       | switch to a different model, requiring students to pay for access
       | to the books starting in 2013. (At least initially, these fees
       | ware rather cheap compared to normal textbook prices, but still
       | not free.)
       | 
       | > Because the books were still available under a Creative Commons
       | license at the end of 2012, I downloaded them to have copies
       | known to be available under a Creative Commons license. I then
       | repackaged them so that they are available outside of the
       | publisher's website, and can be used by anyone under the terms of
       | their Creative Commons license.
       | 
       | [1]: https://2012books.lardbucket.org
        
       | shantnutiwari wrote:
       | Not sure which "writer" this is targeted at? Looks like those
       | doing academic research?
        
         | asicsp wrote:
         | There are chapters later on that focus on specific areas like:
         | Academic/Public/Personal/Web/etc.
        
       | hilbert42 wrote:
       | This is an extremely useful compendium for those who-like me-do
       | not consider themselves to be good with words.
       | 
       | It has many excellent writing tips, examples of bad grammar
       | usage, comparisons between poor and good usage including styles,
       | lists of misspelled words, differences between UK and US spelling
       | and much, much more.
       | 
       | What makes it particularly useful as a reference is that it's
       | organized in such a way that one can quickly look up a subject or
       | topic whilst writing. The well organized and optimally detailed
       | table of contents makes this possible. Just click on the relevant
       | entry and one is linked to a well written section on said topic
       | that can be read in isolation or as part of the complete work.
       | 
       | Highly recommended.
        
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