[HN Gopher] Bricks Might Save Clicks
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       Bricks Might Save Clicks
        
       Author : prostoalex
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2022-04-24 22:33 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | awinter-py wrote:
       | 'rising cost of doing business online' is a disingenuous way to
       | say that platforms have increased the # of ads they're serving in
       | order to pretend they're still viable businesses, and therefore
       | user acquisition is bananas in every category
       | 
       | retail bounceback / showroom-ification may be a short term trend
       | for a few lucky online brands with scale, but ultimately mass
       | customization has to eat apparel. The physical location of auto-
       | tailors will depend on turnaround times, scanning tech, and
       | consumer prefs
        
       | dzink wrote:
       | It's interesting that this happened soon after Amazon closed its
       | physical stores. If online retailers struggle to get distribution
       | with non-targeted ads, then physical retail is an expensive
       | answer. Maybe the right format (Obvious mall kiosks for digital
       | shopping, etc) might help.
        
         | mjevans wrote:
         | All of the Amazon 4 stars that I'm aware of were in expensive
         | locations like larger malls.
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         | Amazon also owns Whole Foods, which is already a B&M operation.
         | The natural thing for them to do is to have an extremely thin
         | warehouse and return presence in these stores and put some of
         | the smaller and frequently purchased impulse buys out on part
         | of an isle.
        
           | mumblemumble wrote:
           | I'm not so sure about that. I'd have to travel past
           | approximately 15 CVS and Walgreens locations that are already
           | full of the same kinds of goods in order to pick them up at
           | Whole Foods, and I'm rarely thinking about Bluetooth
           | headphones when I'm shopping for tins of beans. And whatever
           | they'd be removing from the shelves in order to make room is
           | probably generating more revenue and/or doing a better
           | service to the Whole Foods brand than Amazon Basics cell
           | phone cases would.
        
       | gpapilion wrote:
       | Retail is brutal low margin business. I don't think you can grow
       | to the fullest extent without both physical and on-line
       | presences. It' difficult to see couches to consumers, if they
       | want to try them first. In 2021 you had to buy on-line, and that
       | isn't true now.
        
         | closeparen wrote:
         | The 6+ month lead times on couches makes them difficult to sell
         | full stop. I want a new couch but I don't care enough about
         | 6-month-future-me to actually order one. Extremely delayed
         | gratification is an interesting "accidental" strategy for
         | cutting down on consumerism!
        
       | kingcharles wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/20220422112132/https://www.wsj.com/articl...
        
       | throw__away7391 wrote:
       | This "stores as ads" trend has really destroyed a lot of
       | previously nice neighborhoods in Manhattan, as all the commercial
       | real estate is gobbled up in areas in SoHo and Greenwich Village
       | by stores that actually lose money based on retail sales at that
       | location but use the store to create brand awareness and feature
       | the store prominently in online ad campaigns. These drive up
       | commercial real estate prices quite a lot forcing businesses that
       | actually sell things to people out, so so for all the days you're
       | not buying a suitcase with a built-in cell phone charger or a
       | $7,000 neon orange jacket you'll have a harder time finding a
       | bar, bodega, or any kind of shop you'd use on a regular basis.
       | 
       | This make ironically some of the most prestigious addresses on
       | some of the prettiest streets less nice. Particularly in SoHo
       | there's a bunch of super fancy very beautiful lofts that sell for
       | many $10s of millions, but if you need to "run downstairs for
       | some eggs" or grab a coffee or something, you'll be walking many
       | blocks through what's basically a luxury mall to get there. Also
       | makes the streets feel deader at 7:00 when the shops all close
       | down.
        
         | Swenrekcah wrote:
         | This is a very real problem and the only viable solution I know
         | of is for the local government to mandate a certain ratio (with
         | error margins) of different types of establishments.
         | 
         | For example, not more than 15% of a street can be hotels, or
         | clothing stores, perhaps at least 25% be
         | bars/restaurants/entertainment, etc.
        
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         | analog31 wrote:
         | It seems like the neighborhood retailers are getting it from
         | both sides: Competing for space with luxury brands, and
         | competing for sales with delivery services.
        
       | steve76 wrote:
        
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