Post B65fAhVm5l3QLONB6u by joao@clew.lol
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 (DIR) Post #B64oEBUvlSjWdwkogy by prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer
       2026-05-08T05:07:16.735941Z
       
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       I would rather package slot 4 different rust versions than install pip and I'm *not* kidding.
       
 (DIR) Post #B64oWLLHty4MO6u0zQ by sampler@freebeerextremist.com
       2026-05-08T05:09:31.045983Z
       
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       @prettygood python -m venv
       
 (DIR) Post #B64otw71MGwj5WTmMq by prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer
       2026-05-08T05:14:49.278301Z
       
       20 likes, 9 repeats
       
       @sampler more effort than it was worth bye
       
 (DIR) Post #B64qqsCxcKsU1EvObo by p
       2026-05-08T05:36:43.260049Z
       
       9 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @sampler @prettygood As much as I hate pip (also venv), it's at least not Rust.
       
 (DIR) Post #B64s7hELmil8qkA0lE by olmitch@shitposter.world
       2026-05-08T05:50:57.465127Z
       
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       @prettygood @sampler A friend of mine taught me a wonderful trick that makes having to use Python based apps tolerable: python-pipenv. When you have that installed, you can just type pipenv shell, hit enter, and then use pip like normal without breaking anything.
       
 (DIR) Post #B64sQY0yGzellltKhk by sally@freesoftwareextremist.com
       2026-05-08T05:54:21.223323Z
       
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       @p @sampler @prettygood Is it a fair comparison though? The only thing worse than Rust is dotNEET, these languages are their own tier of bad.
       
 (DIR) Post #B64tIvIDwPRjbStD6m by p
       2026-05-08T06:04:12.015428Z
       
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       @sally @prettygood @sampler > Is it a fair comparison though?If you translate "pain" into a linear scale.
       
 (DIR) Post #B64tzGJ2Cmp8w8SQJU by lolitechengineer@loli.church
       2026-05-08T06:11:41.807Z
       
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       @sally@freesoftwareextremist.com @p@fsebugoutzone.org @sampler@freebeerextremist.com @prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer what did @dotnet do to you?
       
 (DIR) Post #B64vm3mHfof0DzyH3o by tyler@nicecrew.digital
       2026-05-08T06:31:51.518597Z
       
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       Use venvs (still doesn't make python programs any good)
       
 (DIR) Post #B652AmGsUze4tTS0Wm by p
       2026-05-08T07:43:34.400742Z
       
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       @lolitechengineer @dotnet @prettygood @sally @sampler Miguel de Icaza once set a baby on fire just because IBM told him to.
       
 (DIR) Post #B65FsuvOz8ERsVmcOe by mint@ryona.agency
       2026-05-08T10:17:11.479158Z
       
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       @p @sampler @prettygood I believe it was Perl with CPAN that started this third-party package manager shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #B65QInxSVcupLFjCk4 by restful@noauthority.social
       2026-05-08T12:13:55Z
       
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       @tyler @sampler @prettygood You still get dependency hell in venvs.
       
 (DIR) Post #B65UCfax5bGzU2Wycy by argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org
       2026-05-08T05:28:15Z
       
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       @prettygood 4 different Rust versions? Why?
       
 (DIR) Post #B65fAhVm5l3QLONB6u by joao@clew.lol
       2026-05-08T13:28:19.054680Z
       
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       @prettygood @sampler pip is the worst command ever
       
 (DIR) Post #B66W6w9f09uSAi7Ssq by p
       2026-05-09T00:53:44.469083Z
       
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       @mint @prettygood @sampler Yeah, I think that is the case, but it wasn't, like, compulsory; a lot of package managers were just "Here's the install media, you want anything else and you know how to type `./configure&&make&&sudo make install`."  CPAN didn't download binaries or shit recursive dependency trees or execute itself:  it was mostly a substitute for finding the thing and then installing it manually.Pre-gem days of Ruby, right, there was something called `setup.rb` and you'd structure your project the way it expected and for your trouble, it would handle building C extensions, moving things into place, etc.  You could turn it into packages pretty easily.  What really cemented the horseshit, and then spread to Python and every other language, was the Debian Problem.Ruby used to follow the same version numbering scheme that the kernel used to follow:  even minor releases were unstable/testing releases, odd minor releases were real releases.  So there was Ruby 1.6, then 1.7 was the set of features that eventually became 1.8.  1.8 was the really important one, like, the language took off around then and then the Great Webshit Catastroophe occurred:  Rails.  DHH emailed the Ruby mailing list, `[ANN] Rails 0.9` or something like that and Rails was this weird piece of shit, like, he put into the announcement that Rails was only installable over rubygems (although it didn't support *using* rubygems:  they had this terrible ad hoc "plugin" system).  Anyway, webshit immediately became the *worst* thing you could possibly be involved with.So then Ruby 1.9.0 came out.  Odd minor version 9, so it was beta.  Ruby 1.9 had a major problem:  it was way, way, *way* faster.  Bytecode VM instead of an AST-walker.  So a lot of Ruby hackers made it their /usr/bin/ruby:  it also had some much nicer features, you know, some typical practices ended up codified in the language, convenience methods.  And people wanted to use this stuff in production:  it was way, way faster.:bezos: Before Shuttleworth convinced Bezos to Ubertuber the earth, nobody deployed to Ubuntu.  It is a desktop distro for retarded babies, but back then people still *knew* that.  Typically, big businesses at the time were deploying to CentOS or Suse, and startups would deploy to, like, Debian in the usual case, but you'd see Slackware or Red Hat or FreeBSD or whatever.  This was generally a matter of how anal-retentive your sysadmin was.  So you'd tell him what you needed in order to deploy and if he was a real asshole he'd say "I'm not putting that on my fucking boxes" or "That's not in Debian stable" and you could negotiate with him ("negotiate" in this case means "bribe with liquor") to build a package.This situation persisted until Luis Lavena, a Ruby programmer and--at the time the story *started*, at least--a Debian maintainer, decided to make Ruby 1.9.0 Debian's Ruby.  As noted, 1.9.0 was a beta release:  no guarantees.  So 1.9.1 was released, and although 1.9.0 and 1.9.1 were both backwards compatible with 1.8.x, 1.9.1 was not backwards-compatible with 1.9.0.  The predictable shitstorm occurred, you know, and Matz said "Please don't use this unless you want to beta test it" and then all of these terrible Ruby-management programs came out, and most of them were, of course, written in Ruby.  `rvm`, the "Ruby Version Manager", was one such system and instead of just installing shit under a prefix and then if you wanted to use it, you'd set your $PATH accordingly, rvm required a byzantine set of shell aliases and had a snotty documentation line, "Only read this if you *have* to know what *every* line in your .bashrc does".  When I first encountered it, it was some website that had have the screen taken up by a "comic":  https://web.archive.org/web/20110426174633/http://www.beginrescueend.com/ .  First time I ever saw a curlbash, which was appalling:  "Why doesn't he have a fucking tarball?  I'm not sourcing the fucking output of a URL."  The domain, if you are unfamiliar with Ruby, is a joke about ignoring errors.  This was pretty clearly software written by and for the profoundly retarded so I ignored it.  What I did not know was that the web was very quickly becoming a place created by and for the profoundly retarded; the site spent an entire month broken because it couldn't load the "Rails plugins":  https://web.archive.org/web/20101212035851/http://www.beginrescueend.com/ .  Please look at the attached screenshots.Once you've got the language runtime out of the OS's hands, you're not going to get the OS to manage libraries, so distros' package management tools were cut entirely out of the loop.  Debian used to turn gems into libraries, you could install them.  For a while, you could `apt-get install rails`.  After the 1.9.0 fallout, though, nobody would touch that kind of thing.  Now we have the situation we have.november_through_december_his_shit_was_completely_busted.gifrvm_was_always_retarded.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B66bnKjCWq2QJkmLXk by p
       2026-05-09T01:57:25.711226Z
       
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       cc @f0x :ddr_u: Apparently I did already post it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B672xqO4NBYUAI8BVo by mint@ryona.agency
       2026-05-09T07:01:50.275164Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @p @sampler @prettygood Yeah, as much of a clusterfuck pip/venv is, at least it isn't shitting up your .profile/.bashrc/whatever with a curlbash. As long as you're not doing source venv/bin/activate it might as well not be there.
       
 (DIR) Post #B67M1mhHvscd0YiGHY by bajax@baj.ax
       2026-05-09T10:35:27.402567Z
       
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       @p @sampler @mint @prettygood rofl this happens because mac users have access to a bash terminal
       
 (DIR) Post #B67NJ31kZSnoX24zPU by bajax@baj.ax
       2026-05-09T10:49:46.855430Z
       
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       @p @mint @prettygood @sampler curlbashes always make my skin crawl a little
       
 (DIR) Post #B67kacctlVRgoEnvfM by p
       2026-05-09T15:10:41.264650Z
       
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       @mint @prettygood @sampler Apparently *all* of them snuck in ways to download executable blobs onto your machine without you noticing.  So you've gotta add `gem: --platform ruby` to ~/.gemrc top stop Ruby from doing it and `[install]\nno-binary = :all:\n` to ~/.pip/pip.conf or it will fuck you.  Now, like, I don't know how it is implemented (I worked Aaron Patterson and he is a complete jackass like literally every other guy in the Seattle.rb circle-jerk and "zenspider" is the dipshit that alphabetized my code and I nearly fucking jumped the cubicle wall when I got the merge conflicts on that one) so don't quote me on this but I think the gem version has a build server that does the compilation and the pip server allows people to upload binaries, because turning off the binaries in Ruby has never resulted in breakage but I have run into Python shit where there is a .whl full of binaries but there is no source.
       
 (DIR) Post #B67mbzBLaazIxihBNw by p
       2026-05-09T15:33:20.656866Z
       
       8 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler PICfuckingRELATEDfuck-your-macintosh.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #B680ZLS5jRSeWNA8FU by SilverDeth
       2026-05-09T18:09:44.235697Z
       
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       @p @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler I miss the glorious CRT's... I had a 1990's Trinatron I kept alive until 2013.  50 lbs of glorious clarity.
       
 (DIR) Post #B688krxxz7VMBG4tVY by p
       2026-05-09T19:41:27.611503Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler You know what I really wish I still had was my, like, I feel like it was 10"?  Maybe smaller.  The Herculese amber monochrome CRT.
       
 (DIR) Post #B68HMmQBqci5cZrqD2 by bajax@baj.ax
       2026-05-09T21:17:54.105228Z
       
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       @p @sampler @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood lol I've got a set of WY-60 CRT serial terminals, in one of each phosphor color-- white, amber and green(stole the amber one from a recycling center, bought the other two on ebay to make a set)
       
 (DIR) Post #B68KpwcrHrEpWuOK0m by p
       2026-05-09T21:56:50.258049Z
       
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       @bajax @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood @sampler Oh, gat damn, I'm envious, ha.  (At some point, budget will recover and I'll be outfitting a warehouse-sized building with all kinds of weird shit.  Hopefully some serial terminals.)
       
 (DIR) Post #B68LvyKxw9BgWsSajA by f0x@dsmc.space
       2026-05-09T22:09:05.504996Z
       
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       @p @bajax @sampler @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood (lets kidnap the cat)
       
 (DIR) Post #B68M1MPnqJVuebIAdc by adequate@poa.st
       2026-05-09T22:10:05.798088Z
       
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       Not scrolling, lemme know what you need me to do.
       
 (DIR) Post #B68MiBzkScoymvWrlw by p
       2026-05-09T22:17:50.805185Z
       
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       @f0x @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler This one?IMG_3619.jpeg
       
 (DIR) Post #B68O4KFMYqZEhowzGy by f0x@dsmc.space
       2026-05-09T22:33:01.798300Z
       
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       @p @bajax @sampler @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood no, bajax
       
 (DIR) Post #B68PGSlApqsMXPBHwO by p
       2026-05-09T22:46:27.018670Z
       
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       @f0x @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler It is not hard to rob a cat, they can only store wealth in the form of fat.
       
 (DIR) Post #B68PafBiL01QsHEA88 by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
       2026-05-09T22:50:04.628505Z
       
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       And there's 99 way to skin them.
       
 (DIR) Post #B68Sk2mOIHh0VkXzVI by bajax@baj.ax
       2026-05-09T23:25:23.790738Z
       
       2 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @f0x @sampler @SilverDeth @p @mint @prettygood you'll never take me alive!
       
 (DIR) Post #B68TqZaFLFexwWXmz2 by p
       2026-05-09T23:37:47.780507Z
       
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       @lnxw37b2 They do this because they are trying to train you to hunt!  They do it for kittens also.
       
 (DIR) Post #B68yDBdDYgCqwTdIgq by SilverDeth
       2026-05-10T05:18:02.037734Z
       
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       @p @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler Those were bitchen - I remember seeing the guy who stole movies for us on VHS with his satellite dish in the early 80's playing a flight simulator on one.Delightful in it's warm orange glow.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6AVaHQTfiRzDfFlKq by p
       2026-05-10T23:06:41.073704Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler Oh, yeah, and remarkably readable.  Just real nice.I don't know if you've seen this but this was like "Oh, holy shit, I need one of those!" and then it turns out that it was, like, specialty hardware for DOS fileservers in European banks and only about a hundred thousand were made and very few survivors.amber_crt_in_drive_bay.mp4
       
 (DIR) Post #B6B2dEg7dnwG3OaW6C by SilverDeth
       2026-05-11T05:16:59.063830Z
       
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       @p @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler Yeah I watched that LGR episode - he was in love the second he saw it while rummaging.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6BuiX582YrO6TG8O0 by p
       2026-05-11T15:23:00.770378Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler I don't know who is LGR but someone posted that video to fedi and I ran around digging to find one to see if there were any that could be procured and I did not but I found some videos of people that got to play with them.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CPte1df3cjP4PCDI by SilverDeth
       2026-05-11T21:12:22.605011Z
       
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       @p @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler They are rare - If I remember right, LGR said they were mostly used for server towers.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CQPEBFHuiYVrxW1g by SilverDeth
       2026-05-11T21:18:05.076875Z
       
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       @p @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler LGR is a guy who loves 80's and 90's PC's, spends a lot of time refurbishing them - he built a 1980's style woodgrain windows 3.1 PC. His youtube channel is mostly him dumpster-diving or thrifting to find 80's-90's PC's and parts.  He refurbs them and reviews them once they're running.  He also find "weird shit" like the monitor or drive-bay ashtrays, then installs them and tries them out.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CRyr8MYFzxPmABOq by prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer
       2026-05-11T21:35:42.776341Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @sampler @p @mint don't forget the Christmas specials
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CSCHHgdVogHcvNRY by p
       2026-05-11T21:38:09.255704Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler I am still not sure what is an LGR but I think we may have watched the same video and also I'm certain we remember the same machines.:mycomputer: please help i do not have a keyboard plugged in:mycomputer: please press f1:mycomputer: pleaseAlso speaking of DOS:Alter_Ego_-_Female.zipAlter_Ego_-_Male.zipelite.zip
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CSDXEAqRLw1JsfnV by p
       2026-05-11T21:38:22.891507Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler Oh, shit, that is awesome.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CSw2j55yQQS8YoW8 by SilverDeth
       2026-05-11T21:46:25.517384Z
       
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       @p @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler The 80's and 90's were a wild time...I don't watch much youtube, but I do binge LGR about 3 times a year.image.pngimage.pngimage.pngimage.pngimage.pngimage.pngimage.pngimage.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CTmVE2NfT7ts3SG8 by p
       2026-05-11T21:55:54.364894Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler Such great shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CTvgNGIbwB5FkM8O by p
       2026-05-11T21:57:33.908988Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler Of course, if you have server racks, the rack-mount cigarette lighter might be the best option:intercom_master_system.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CV6U86GRwuFPMzCa by SilverDeth
       2026-05-11T22:10:43.347486Z
       
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       @p @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler Some folks might consider such additions mandatoryimage.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CV8EPteiMA5sWiw4 by bajax@baj.ax
       2026-05-11T22:11:00.804736Z
       
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       @p @sampler @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood rofl this is a real product
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVDYVeNX2TrHkyie by f0x@dsmc.space
       2026-05-11T22:11:59.106950Z
       
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       @bajax @sampler @SilverDeth @p @mint @prettygood of course it is
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVHio02Z12wuKH8i by SilverDeth
       2026-05-11T22:12:45.191115Z
       
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       @bajax @p @mint @prettygood @sampler This is why I never forgive what was taken from us...
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVKpUrcPO0ZRrDbk by bajax@baj.ax
       2026-05-11T22:13:18.074327Z
       
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       @f0x @sampler @SilverDeth @p @mint @prettygood unexpected in a 19-inch rack format though...  5.25 you expect, you can find all kinds of novelty PC junk, rackmount is generally less idk... whimsical
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVO5wquPncSkVQHI by p
       2026-05-11T22:13:54.300242Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler :bofhsimon: "I know the cigarettes are bad for my health.  They're not for my health:  they're for *yours*."
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVUo0S0zrEqNOAds by f0x@dsmc.space
       2026-05-11T22:15:05.423829Z
       
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       @bajax @sampler @SilverDeth @p @mint @prettygood something something we used to be s real country where working men smoked in the office
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVZAjTSgIkUCWwIy by bajax@baj.ax
       2026-05-11T22:15:53.004984Z
       
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       @f0x @sampler @SilverDeth @p @mint @prettygood also this product is more recent-- and german
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVadysCbgpUJR1RQ by p
       2026-05-11T22:16:10.375821Z
       
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       @f0x @bajax @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood @sampler sysadmins :teamup: musicians* Standard Rack Unit* Cigarettes* Day-drinkingsmonks.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVcXgAbQqIWTakfg by ins0mniak
       2026-05-11T22:16:30.953996Z
       
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       @f0x @bajax @SilverDeth @mint @p @prettygood @sampler I used to vape at work all the time. They told me not to so I just ducked in the supply closet.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVezMEfLDEwfQyhc by f0x@dsmc.space
       2026-05-11T22:16:54.625983Z
       
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       @bajax @sampler @SilverDeth @p @mint @prettygood oh
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVhVe1aw8Pf0xO5Y by ins0mniak
       2026-05-11T22:17:24.823315Z
       
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       @p @f0x @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler sounds good to me
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVhkX8EqX9pyqavY by p
       2026-05-11T22:17:27.427010Z
       
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       @bajax @f0x @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood @sampler > unexpected in a 19-inch rack format thoughIt should make sense if I mention that the standard rack unit is also used by A/V gear.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CVm7TcsRkk9aI7aS by p
       2026-05-11T22:18:14.816903Z
       
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       @ins0mniak @SilverDeth @bajax @f0x @mint @prettygood @sampler :bofhsimon:
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CYBPKnosRqgbLltA by bajax@baj.ax
       2026-05-11T22:45:12.211531Z
       
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       @p @f0x @sampler @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood lol so they're not just for the operators but to offer to visiting creatives and executives
       
 (DIR) Post #B6CgqglqhDtcGnCEGu by p
       2026-05-12T00:22:19.673575Z
       
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       @bajax @SilverDeth @f0x @mint @prettygood @sampler I"m not sure what you mean but they got dudes in the booth and those dudes smoke cigarettes sometimes.  You can hear one of them get really angry at Frank Zappa if you listen to the song "Are You Hung Up?"
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GLyPp1euSfUq6tpw by mint@ryona.agency
       2026-05-13T18:47:14.364349Z
       
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       @p @bajax @sampler @SilverDeth @prettygood A milquetoast one-trick pony of retro tech youtubers. Often gets cool hardware from his donors without ever putting it to good use, just making a video demonstrating it can run Windows 9x and contemporary games before it gets added to the hoard.Ligger 486.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GO12LNbefrSPca7U by p
       2026-05-13T19:10:08.872865Z
       
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       @mint @SilverDeth @bajax @prettygood @sampler> just making a video demonstrating it can run Windows 9x and contemporary games before it gets added to the hoardNice work if you can get it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GOZQVMHbSAEkgefY by mint@ryona.agency
       2026-05-13T19:16:20.289189Z
       
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       @p @bajax @sampler @SilverDeth @prettygood I don't hate him, I just think he's boring and can't solder.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GPi8Pb1NjwgPhxL6 by p
       2026-05-13T19:29:08.507925Z
       
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       @mint @SilverDeth @bajax @prettygood @sampler Yeah, I ain't seen him solder, but that's plausible.(Youtube basically hates me and at some point I will have to get Deno to run so people ask me "Did you see this guy" and I say "I haven't seen anyone".  For a while, like, I had the boot-to-RAM busted Thinkpad, it would play Youtube videos and I didn't have to autism the browser too hard, so sometimes I would have it play videos in the background.  I mostly watched Summoning Salt and Alex Jones, though.  I downloaded a video of a guy playing Defender for an hour and I'd put that on loop muted sometimes.)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GQ39JcrABTZDw5R2 by bajax@baj.ax
       2026-05-13T19:32:55.495458Z
       
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       @p @sampler @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood defender would make an awesome screensaver
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GQj3sXSdnUrqFeXw by p
       2026-05-13T19:40:30.860730Z
       
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       @bajax @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood @sampler At some point, that's on the list of shit to procure:  a Defender machine and a DDR machine.  The kind of stuff you can't quite do with an emulator, you know?
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GSeH9mriCIVeAI3k by bajax@baj.ax
       2026-05-13T20:02:00.684453Z
       
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       @p @sampler @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood totally, idk what it is, some specific vibration the old analog circuitry gives off, radiant heat, the smell of the old resins holding it all together-- old shit's got s0ul
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GTDC0lzIOMgdbA5Q by SilverDeth
       2026-05-13T20:08:22.193008Z
       
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       @p @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler Nothing beats the warm glow of a CRT.  I miss arcades.  They were magical.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GTJPwX6SM3dGaE4G by sampler@freebeerextremist.com
       2026-05-13T20:08:23.029566Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @p @mint @prettygood I'm looking to build a physical arcade machine rn. probably cost under $500. You can do it too if you want.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GTim1AAQ75Kqq7X6 by SilverDeth
       2026-05-13T20:14:04.642586Z
       
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       @mint @p @bajax @prettygood @sampler Sometimes it's nice to chillax with a cigar and relive the 80's and 90's.  That's what he's really selling.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GTzERKGL6i7MvPvM by SilverDeth
       2026-05-13T20:17:03.108691Z
       
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       @sampler @bajax @mint @p @prettygood Closer to 700 if you want a real CRT, quality sticks/buttons/microswitches.  You'll regret buying bad buttons.I know.https://www.ultimarc.com/control-interfaces/These guys are legit.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GW6PctGlqOkPszaq by p
       2026-05-13T20:40:45.574565Z
       
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       @bajax @SilverDeth @mint @prettygood @sampler Well, like, I mean if you go look at, say, an original Asteroids machine, the vector displays have a really different quality from the CRTs or LCDs.  Defender itself is CRT but makes a lot of use of visual effects that don't work very well on different displays.As far as DDR, like, there is not a reasonable substitute for a giant steel and plexiglass apparatus to jump on.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GWG7vpuahGlVNchc by p
       2026-05-13T20:42:30.918102Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood @sampler Lucky to live through the golden age of arcades.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6GWIp4SUbp38bhMpM by p
       2026-05-13T20:43:00.148438Z
       
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       @sampler @SilverDeth @bajax @mint @prettygood > You can do it too if you want. Ha, you should check who you're asking.