Post B5h3meaUx2fWEDDLV2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
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(DIR) Post #B5h16fYYl9NzA69zEG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T17:38:26Z
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Planted my roofgarden today. No more grocery store for us! This garden will feed twos of people for several hours, perhaps even a day!
(DIR) Post #B5h1Ffd7r4alzqaVoe by sbourne@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T17:39:58Z
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@futurebird Looks like there's lots of room for more!
(DIR) Post #B5h1GOrtf096IgqRaS by photovotary@beige.party
2026-04-26T17:40:11Z
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@futurebird Wishing you much success!
(DIR) Post #B5h1KeTvYHpvsnf1sW by knapjack@social.vivaldi.net
2026-04-26T17:40:59Z
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@futurebird Where we live, in a box nearly identical to that, we find we can grow more lettuce that two people can reasonably eat, or carrots too small for human consumption.
(DIR) Post #B5h1LNX03i25bMRcPo by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T17:41:03Z
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@sbourne It's one of the things that's overwhelming about the roof. We will add one of these planters each year and see how well we cope with the work. My husband is not good at weeding because killing plants makes him sad? (where did I find him???)
(DIR) Post #B5h1MG8543mOw0Czi4 by GlasWolf@mastodon.scot
2026-04-26T17:41:10Z
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@futurebird And an audience of hundreds (surreptitiously) looking on enviously.
(DIR) Post #B5h1RTPH7wSFYrjmr2 by timo21@mastodon.sdf.org
2026-04-26T17:42:11Z
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@futurebird That looks great. are you putting netting over it?
(DIR) Post #B5h1XVLeoxmjJwvB8i by rhempel@cosocial.ca
2026-04-26T17:43:14Z
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@futurebird Growing your own food is ineffecient as hell but it is good for the soul :-) I've got plans for a couple of espalier fruit trees on the south side of my garage ( in Ontario ) so I will join you in the mutual admiration society real soon now.
(DIR) Post #B5h1Z2AGIS7JO7Jv4C by mxchara@seattle.pink
2026-04-26T17:43:32Z
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@futurebird super! what do you plan on growing?
(DIR) Post #B5h1f0X5HEDi42qN0a by astridpoot@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T17:44:39Z
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@futurebird yes autonomy!
(DIR) Post #B5h1xHKrXieXOEq6l6 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T17:47:59Z
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@mxchara Carrots, onions and beans. Carrots do well if you get the right kind.
(DIR) Post #B5h25EjN6wBpd168uG by gdinwiddie@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T17:49:23Z
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@futurebird I think you're going to have to wait awhile before you reach the "several hours" threshold.
(DIR) Post #B5h2BiJO2iGX6q24DQ by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T17:50:27Z
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Due to our roof being fixed I have not been able to garden for TWO YEARS. But now they are done and it's time to grow food again. Our chives survived the construction but not much else (not even the strawberries)There was a colony of ants in one pot that I would feed and I was delighted to find that they made it too!I'm fairly certain it's the same colony since they live in the hollow space of a plastic pot. I will need to plant more strawberries for them as those were their favorite.
(DIR) Post #B5h2G5zFxbmThAhpbM by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T17:51:23Z
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I assume they just ate the roof worker's lunches for the past two years? I was just getting sad that they were gone when one of them emerged from their old hole to find out who was digging in "their" soil.
(DIR) Post #B5h2N6fRpRPBphmecS by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T17:52:37Z
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@gdinwiddie We have chives ready to go. Would you like ... a very small "chive salad" ?
(DIR) Post #B5h2OoAbZZiX2kAWGG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T17:52:53Z
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@timo21 No. It's not needed up here.
(DIR) Post #B5h2VCSiAVUs7ZgZSi by BigTittyBimbo@autonomous.zone
2026-04-26T17:54:04Z
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@futurebird thats hella cool
(DIR) Post #B5h2Zy9SnlyjBaxNYW by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T17:54:53Z
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@alienghic That's a GREAT question.
(DIR) Post #B5h2dLFNOFtNgSKYHw by mxchara@seattle.pink
2026-04-26T17:55:30Z
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@futurebird beans! you can't go wrong with beans
(DIR) Post #B5h2e9PMtNatFvOEnw by noplasticshower@infosec.exchange
2026-04-26T17:55:42Z
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@futurebird though I live in the country with lots of land, many bazillions of plants and a big garden, I have always dreamed of a rooftop garden in NYC
(DIR) Post #B5h2p6T4AH0BK1LHKy by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T17:57:42Z
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@alienghic To be fair to the workmen they also repointed all of the bricks ... so it was a whole thing.
(DIR) Post #B5h2wxRpaINffDVfWa by phryk@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T17:59:05Z
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@futurebird Hell yeah, the amount of flat roof space that's just outright wasted in urban environments is one of my pet peeves.Don't forget to throw up some PV and seating, too. This roof just looks perfect for this kinda stuff – lots of space and a great view. <3
(DIR) Post #B5h3SECzJpcycgTh5c by ehproque@neopaquita.es
2026-04-26T18:04:45Z
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@futurebird @sbourne careful with the weight though, those things add up!
(DIR) Post #B5h3WJXHSDBiIsuyLQ by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T18:05:31Z
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@ehproque @sbourne The roof is designed to be a deck. They It's in the plans. We could really load it up.
(DIR) Post #B5h3meaUx2fWEDDLV2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T18:08:23Z
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@alienghic The frame isn't wood. It's steal beams. This is a huge apartment tower and I'm like 8 stories up. They had to remove the old tar, lay a new bed, then shingles, then paint then more layers. We still need to put the decks back.
(DIR) Post #B5h4IAg3h09IjIqNRw by MusiqueNow@toot.community
2026-04-26T18:14:08Z
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@futurebird 👏👏👏👏🎉🎉🎉🎉 Congrats! I'd love to do that someday (right now, I couldn't grow weeds if I tried! But my husband and I keep at it)
(DIR) Post #B5h4pQVjqR69OPsFdo by 3janeTA@beige.party
2026-04-26T18:20:09Z
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@futurebird love it!
(DIR) Post #B5h512WgqRfeTrrB5M by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T18:22:18Z
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I wonder how many species of ants I can accumulate in this roof garden? If I make enough little niches and habitats I think I could get all of the major common ants of NYC living up here (although I will not bring Lasius emarginatus up here on purpose, they are spreading enough on their own. They will show up I bet.)But maybe I can get some of the more obscure species too.This may look like a garden for plants but really it's a garden for ANTS. An ant garden ... a source of infinite joy!
(DIR) Post #B5h52qqPFVzSpRwVMm by jztusk@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T18:22:24Z
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@futurebird @gdinwiddie No thanks, I already chove today, and don't feel the need to be chiven for a while.
(DIR) Post #B5h55f61NvrvGGaQrY by PhoenixSerenity@beige.party
2026-04-26T18:23:01Z
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@futurebird I'd recommend quails instead of chickens for your rooftop homesteading future 😊
(DIR) Post #B5h56YsTzSJUGUgPXE by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T18:23:04Z
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@jztusk @gdinwiddie I don't think I've made it at all clear just what I mean by "very small" ...
(DIR) Post #B5h5AWxd3kbBTgyzi4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T18:23:59Z
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@PhoenixSerenity Technically pigeons would be more traditional, but IDK if the city is ready for me to bring back the "bird post"... though I always did dream of a pigeon-based ultra slow internet...
(DIR) Post #B5h5HvhtS5k2Fo9PPM by PhoenixSerenity@beige.party
2026-04-26T18:25:18Z
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@futurebird I was just thinking, if you're planning to raise some for eggs - quails are easier to care for/house. I've had both before 😊
(DIR) Post #B5h5MNmN1RJiTcMshk by ELS@sfba.social
2026-04-26T18:26:07Z
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@futurebird What fun! Is it quieter up there, too?
(DIR) Post #B5h5wNQZo46DoNKzc8 by PhoenixSerenity@beige.party
2026-04-26T18:32:34Z
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@futurebird I met some of these fancy helmet pigeons at a past 4-H event. They're rad birds.https://pigeonpedia.com/helmet-pigeon/
(DIR) Post #B5h5xmTm9PLtnUVHBA by Moss@beige.party
2026-04-26T18:32:48Z
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@futurebird *me, glaring around at nooks filled with dirt and seemingly random vegetation*What is this, a garden for ANTS?*you, proudly*Yes, isn’t it lovely?
(DIR) Post #B5h5zNWLutEmy9TERM by MCDuncanLab@mstdn.social
2026-04-26T18:33:00Z
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@futurebird OMG!! I'm so happy for you!! Is it all yours? or do you have to share it?Does Pica, the cat, get to enjoy the garden?Do you want recommendations for what I grow on my deck garden? We're a totally different climate.(ok I can't help myself with just one crumb of unsolicited advice, grow ground cherries, they are in the tomato family but sweet. We grew them for the first time last year and everyone loved them!!)
(DIR) Post #B5h67n9MVn0im0jF4q by dpnash@c.im
2026-04-26T18:34:41Z
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@futurebird @PhoenixSerenity "I'm getting a response from the API."pigeon pigeon quail quail quail quail pigeon pigeon pigeon pigeon quail quail quail quail quail quail pigeon quail quail quail quail pigeon pigeon pigeon pigeon quail quail pigeon quail quail pigeon quail pigeon quail quail pigeon quail quail pigeon pigeon ..."Argh, no! I didn't want that, I wanted JSON instead!"
(DIR) Post #B5h6IEJgMWhZvNX7UO by GinevraCat@toot.community
2026-04-26T18:36:34Z
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@futurebird Love this for them, and you.
(DIR) Post #B5h7XLZblPEAjGkqa8 by moelassus@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T18:50:30Z
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@futurebird Wow that’s a huge space! Do you have to share it with anyone else?
(DIR) Post #B5h7b83pwcRjymhIBc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T18:51:13Z
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@moelassus One other apartment has a door, but they hardly come out here.
(DIR) Post #B5h7cu2D44VN3amXvE by jwhitlock@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T18:51:19Z
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@futurebird Nice sweater!
(DIR) Post #B5h7ndc0SpGpJBe1Xk by moelassus@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T18:53:26Z
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@futurebird Cool! You can feed a small town in the space you have there! I’ve always loved city rooftop gardens.
(DIR) Post #B5h7sVqekyQqg4ozJ2 by blogdiva@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T18:54:19Z
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@futurebird are you in Eastern Harlem?
(DIR) Post #B5h7w8xVnibgqUl8jI by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T18:55:00Z
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@blogdiva nah I wish, I'm in the Bronx.
(DIR) Post #B5h8HKxGOZAE8EkUls by blogdiva@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T18:58:46Z
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@futurebird was gonna ask, south Bronx? that area at the very tippy top of Manhattan and very bottom of the South Bronx all looks the same to me LOL
(DIR) Post #B5h8JNqEdM0FfDRAwq by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T18:59:02Z
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@blogdiva Yup.
(DIR) Post #B5h8dlHXC1IC9cvJLc by regendans@todon.eu
2026-04-26T19:02:48Z
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@futurebird Very cool project 🤩
(DIR) Post #B5h93KWDJvoWg8yumW by oz@mastodonsweden.se
2026-04-26T19:07:28Z
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@futurebird Gotta start somewhere! Best of luck!
(DIR) Post #B5h9L9jCB7lmQOYNvc by mycotropic@beige.party
2026-04-26T19:10:35Z
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@futurebird @mxchara I would like to vote for some herbs, I love my sage and lavender and oregano and tarragon and mint!The harder the sun beats on them the tastier they are!!!
(DIR) Post #B5h9f1njMNQjdE9P2e by mycotropic@beige.party
2026-04-26T19:14:17Z
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@futurebird @PhoenixSerenity 172kb per bird;https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/yes-you-can-store-data-on-a-bird-enthusiast-converts-png-to-bird-shaped-waveform-teaches-young-starling-to-recall-file-at-up-to-2mb-s
(DIR) Post #B5h9vcAzswrR54wV1s by gimulnautti@mastodon.green
2026-04-26T19:17:17Z
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@futurebird How’s the wind up there? Probably figures a lot in plant development, and drying?
(DIR) Post #B5hAauFnZvoD1IsTvk by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T19:24:47Z
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@gimulnautti It's pretty mild. We've lived here for 18 years and I have a lot of experience with growing up here. It's just that with the repairs we are now starting over. Getting a few new beds and mixing it up. The wind isn't much of an issue. The sun however is intense. But when we have enough plants in one place it's cooler.
(DIR) Post #B5hAjynE4UThhiq73g by girlbandgeek@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T19:26:23Z
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@futurebird @MAJ1 Love it! Happy growing 🌱🥗🍆
(DIR) Post #B5hAnkCSGo6TbRR3EO by BarneyDellar@mastodon.scot
2026-04-26T19:27:05Z
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@futurebird Love it :)
(DIR) Post #B5hAoTXFiKTgCyVnOa by msbellows@c.im
2026-04-26T19:27:11Z
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@futurebird Alt text should include physical descriptions, even when they're of the person doing the post. Maybe change it to: "Attractive, intelligent-looking, personable, and comfy-stylish woman (me)... " 🙂
(DIR) Post #B5hAq3j0eC70jolZKK by bitprophet@social.coop
2026-04-26T19:27:26Z
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@futurebird
(DIR) Post #B5hArjWAkPdee7Ymky by surdfish@beige.party
2026-04-26T19:27:47Z
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@futurebird Love the Big Annual Salad (gotta start somewhere :)
(DIR) Post #B5hB4MsaEDoICN4Etc by lps@mograph.social
2026-04-26T19:30:03Z
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@futurebird imagine how much food could be grown on rooftops that size!
(DIR) Post #B5hBHnaeEJPwny5B5c by GeePawHill@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T19:32:30Z
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@futurebird And that's how it's done, people.
(DIR) Post #B5hBJC0UvxC8p2q2K0 by thecampbell@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T19:32:46Z
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@futurebird Long may your rebellion against Big Ag prosper!
(DIR) Post #B5hBuFwNGvKNjiaBw8 by RIJim@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T19:39:27Z
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@futurebird I've been getting our garden ready and cannot wait to plant. Our asparagus has already come up so we've had some with dinner a few times. So tasty.
(DIR) Post #B5hDbif6Shs7DjnEMC by ehproque@neopaquita.es
2026-04-26T19:58:31Z
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@futurebird @sbourne nice :D
(DIR) Post #B5hE7d4KnBLb8moJIe by thestrangelet@beige.party
2026-04-26T20:04:16Z
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@futurebird That's a lot of space, looks awesome. Good luck with your next harvest!
(DIR) Post #B5hEDK0eZF9Jlanr4S by db@cupoftea.social
2026-04-26T20:05:18Z
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@futurebird good work!
(DIR) Post #B5hEXdG6i0aRG6iTS4 by jackemled@furry.engineer
2026-04-26T20:08:53Z
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@futurebird ROOF BEESROOF BEES
(DIR) Post #B5hG6CmNFclfDurHRw by SteveGideons@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T20:26:26Z
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@futurebird this is why i love our range back at home Kenya
(DIR) Post #B5hGOyawDFFSjWSaEC by NNN@bettercities.top
2026-04-26T20:33:24Z
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@futurebird ooh , that roof is huge ! 8)
(DIR) Post #B5hIdqbKPnTKC2rTCi by kate@aus.social
2026-04-26T20:54:54Z
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@futurebird @adelinej Cheering the salad bar!
(DIR) Post #B5hJaBQP9OtNZaZJqK by kludgekml@sunbeam.city
2026-04-26T21:05:27Z
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@futurebird how much of that roof are you allowed to use? (Like, I assume you share it with the other people in the building, is there a clear space allowance for everyone or is it low enough demand that whoever wants it can basically use the whole thing)
(DIR) Post #B5hKb2gREiFMhp2eNE by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T21:16:51Z
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@kludgekml It's pretty low demand. Thought there is a portion in the deed that's "ours" but no one follows this.
(DIR) Post #B5hMTcqz4ZQwTdZ8JE by rustoleumlove@mastodon.online
2026-04-26T21:37:54Z
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@futurebird that is so rad!i'm glad your roof got fixed bc wow, you know what to do with it!
(DIR) Post #B5hMWR47MDKKml34wC by leonardof@bertha.social
2026-04-26T21:38:22Z
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@futurebird Godspeed!
(DIR) Post #B5hMqz4sbsvQ43Cg08 by JoscelynTransient@chaosfem.tw
2026-04-26T21:42:06Z
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@futurebird hehe, I love this!
(DIR) Post #B5hNFPddVgJrOH6oN6 by jasperb@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T21:46:32Z
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@futurebird @sbourne he could blant them in a different bed, the weed bed with the bumble bee hotel.
(DIR) Post #B5hNHBxzJPxVZFTcMi by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T21:46:47Z
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@gemlog I wouldn't have bees if I didn't have enough of a garden for them, although there is huge courtyard with flowers and a park across the street so I think they would be fine. I worry more about the hive overheating in the sun. I need a shaded area for it. This roof is HOT.
(DIR) Post #B5hNNDVYUhRK5N3ByK by Mage_of_Chaos@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T21:47:57Z
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@futurebird love this. I wish they didnt keepe from having my own.
(DIR) Post #B5hNYI7XgVR1Zq6DQG by stevenbodzin@thepit.social
2026-04-26T21:49:51Z
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@futurebird Looks amazing! But as a voice of experience in this, I suggest you put something on the ground to spread the weight around. Those legs are pressing on the roof membrane. I once built a roof compost bin, Years later, it cut through the membrane and caused no end of problems.
(DIR) Post #B5hNjJFdoyjwGk8pN2 by Torithom@theforkiverse.com
2026-04-26T21:51:56Z
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@futurebird was there some negotiation needed with the building to use the roof? Noone does that in my city but if I knew how I would open the conversation. The military used our roof for helicopters once in a training exercise but I would much prefer it was used for plants <3
(DIR) Post #B5hNrQQL2PAcpa0yNU by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T21:53:24Z
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@Torithom The building was designed to have a useable roof and so we don't need to ask. We have a door in our living room that open right out on to the roof. We need to install a new deck floor but no one can agree who is supposed to pay for that.
(DIR) Post #B5hNxGPTBNZNViOOHY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T21:54:29Z
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@Torithom Some buildings can be converted some can't.
(DIR) Post #B5hO6GuGhll9ep5rl2 by IcooIey@mastodon.green
2026-04-26T21:56:05Z
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@futurebird let me know if you want some bean seeds. Happy to send you some (have several varieties, from many generations of saved seed).
(DIR) Post #B5hOAweLRlKqHPsFCS by Torithom@theforkiverse.com
2026-04-26T21:56:56Z
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@futurebird I'm guessing my city (maybe even country) laws make that hard, but also curious to know what factor in the infrastructure is considered. It makes so much sense to use that space!
(DIR) Post #B5hODo5Pk39sactrSy by CStamp@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T21:57:25Z
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@futurebird do you share the space with others who may also want to garden?
(DIR) Post #B5hOOTYKQS2e5iVmnw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T21:59:25Z
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@CStamp Sadly no other gardeners, the other family with a door to this area just like to sit in their swing and maybe BBQ now and then. But we gave them a carrot last time so maybe they will come around.
(DIR) Post #B5hOibnjT3u3StJi52 by CStamp@mastodon.social
2026-04-26T22:03:01Z
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@futurebird What a lovely setup. :)
(DIR) Post #B5hPumxJv9DZUQAo1g by greenhombre@mstdn.social
2026-04-26T22:16:26Z
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@futurebird Get a goat!
(DIR) Post #B5hPzco94u8LSqBiNM by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T22:17:17Z
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@greenhombre Not legal. Only chicken, pigeons and bees may be raised on roofs. No... "barn animals" whatever that means.
(DIR) Post #B5hQ1A7Ej2qt3Yqnp2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T22:17:36Z
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@greenhombre Also the goat would want to come inside. I know how they are.
(DIR) Post #B5hQAazgA9P51WoWlE by greenhombre@mstdn.social
2026-04-26T22:19:17Z
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@futurebird Cuddles with Mom!
(DIR) Post #B5hQWrQJl4gSLltHsG by dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org
2026-04-26T22:23:18Z
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@futurebird @greenhombre You just let it inside, then it's not on the roof. no more legal issues 😂 btw thanks for the pic, your cute little cartoon avatar is cute, but it's nice to put a face to one of my favorite fedi people.
(DIR) Post #B5hRns7EXPJnNFdimO by WhiteCatTamer@mastodon.online
2026-04-26T22:37:32Z
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@futurebird Hell yeah! My thumbs may be a very jaundice-heavy green, but damn is it cool to toss compost on a garden and watch it roar with growth.What do you want to plant? More veggies/eatables or more utility/aesthetics? A mix of both? After the ant cultivation, of course.How much wind do you get? Would sunflowers do well?If you do get chickens, uh…you won’t get mad at them for eating any ants, right? XD
(DIR) Post #B5hSaf7rceDzHCCREm by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T22:46:26Z
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@WhiteCatTamer There will never be sunflowers as I am allergic to those. LOL. But I do think there is a bit too much wind and it might not be the best ideal. Also... don't they kind of drain the soil like corn?My big limiting factor is I just don't have enough dirt and even with compost can't make enough to keep up. And buying dirt is so expensive and you get so little.
(DIR) Post #B5hVPCHaoseiUwyVEW by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T23:17:45Z
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@gemlog nah. it's a coop so it's all our own fault.
(DIR) Post #B5hVmi3Ur7hLhRapgO by spiegelmama@infosec.exchange
2026-04-26T23:22:13Z
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@futurebird If I may be shallow: I love the casual outfit, especially the orange mesh pullover. And the one gray streak in your hair really completes the image of a proud farmer. I would watch that TV show.
(DIR) Post #B5hXiHO2GdnnjpDPNY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T23:43:49Z
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@gemlog Lots of people keep bees in NYC. There was that one time the Brooklyn bees got into some cocktail cherries from the cherry factory, but there are a lot of bees in the city, including bumble bees and solitary bees. https://www.honeybeesuite.com/brooklyn-bees-pig-out-on-maraschino-cherry-syrup/
(DIR) Post #B5hXm4CpDPT416mH20 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T23:44:28Z
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@spiegelmama Aw thanks.
(DIR) Post #B5hXvlG8VsDi9Pwu8G by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T23:46:16Z
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@gemlog I may give my ants one of these cherries some day as a treat.
(DIR) Post #B5hYLNxdl4a5QCW4PY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T23:50:53Z
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@gemlog There was a bar that bought some of the red honey and they had a drink called "The Brooklyn Bee" that had to be made with red honey and candied cherries. They had a jar on the shelf behind the bar. I was too alarmed to try it but I bet it was great.
(DIR) Post #B5hYkanPAw6KT4kSxM by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-26T23:55:26Z
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@cinebox @gemlog It was more like pink than red. It didn't look that alarming. I just worried that the bees weren't getting enough nutrition eating so much junk food. But eusocial bugs kind of love junk food.
(DIR) Post #B5hZCKJ44lpFR3mWSe by ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org
2026-04-27T00:00:18Z
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@futurebird LOVE IT!
(DIR) Post #B5hZrBosXDL0zF9CDY by WhiteCatTamer@mastodon.online
2026-04-27T00:07:49Z
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@futurebird Lol figures I’d choose the one that’ll kill you. This is why I’ve run through at least 6 besties when playing Poison Or Snack. 😭I dunno about nutrients, was thinking about direct sunlight and how hot the roof gets.Is this soil program still available? https://www.nyc.gov/site/oer/safe-land/clean-soil-bank.page Although I don’t know how much shipping would cost, so it may be as bad/good as a gardening store.And the compost program, in case anyone else in NYC wants info: https://www.nyc.gov/site/dsny/what-we-do/programs/compost-givebacks.page#residents
(DIR) Post #B5hbLc61VHiZ7jEnSq by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T00:24:28Z
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@phooky @cinebox @gemlog That's all I know... what else happened?
(DIR) Post #B5hcY0901GT58W6IPQ by roadskater@mastodon.social
2026-04-27T00:37:58Z
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@futurebird @gimulnautti I've been reading about farmland where plants are thriving because they grow below the solar panel installation. Just a thought.
(DIR) Post #B5hfFJUc9oDHVOzWjY by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2026-04-27T01:03:20.775127Z
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@phryk @futurebird Why make it flat and empty if not to use it?
(DIR) Post #B5hfFKTaV6zCYVWDlw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T01:08:13Z
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@lispi314 @phryk It adds expense when you are building and then outdoor spaces can add to upkeep. I think there should be more incentives to create roof garden spaces. If it really got going it could produce a dent in the food supply for the city (especially fresh things that require shipping) and it would help with water run-off and urban heat island effects. Also gardening makes you a more balanced and nice person. It would help with mental health.
(DIR) Post #B5hg0nLWyqDjhlNqIy by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2026-04-27T01:10:26.773708Z
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@futurebird @phryk > If it really got going it could produce a dent in the food supply for the city (especially fresh things that require shipping)I'm not sure if that food would be suitable for human consumption in cities that haven't banned fossil fuel vehicles yet.> and it would help with water run-off and urban heat island effects. That on its own is still very worth it, with heatwaves being increasingly a problem everywhere.
(DIR) Post #B5hg0oRwsSwr7xOTwm by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T01:16:48Z
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@lispi314 @phryk The food is great. The danger are urban gardens on the ground since there is lead in some soil from the leaded gasoline era. What my roof grown veggies loose in air pollution exposure they make up for in not needing any pesticides and NOT being shipped for weeks. I don't have to worry about salmonella in my greens due to a warm truck ride. It's much better than what's at the grocery.
(DIR) Post #B5hgIWdbqAgj65IIYy by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T01:20:01Z
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@lispi314 @phryk My mom has a farm outside of Pittsburgh and she can grow so much more than I can because she has more soil. But I'd be hard pressed to tell by taste or inspection which crops came from the farm and which from the roof.
(DIR) Post #B5hgRajjyDWUPqU892 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T01:21:40Z
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@lispi314 @phryk With a roof garden you can do very targeted pest control. My mail tool is a lint roller which I use to remove aphids if I see them. Sometimes I just collect any beetles or other pests in a bag and freeze them for ant food. I have so many little mouths to feed around here.
(DIR) Post #B5hgoMYYrHZB6478kq by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T01:25:46Z
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@lispi314 @phryk I never remove ants from a garden, but if they start farming aphids we may have an argument about where they can do that. Two years back we came to a truce where they kept their "cattle" on the decorative bush.
(DIR) Post #B5hhkpUJRx4zcd0QuO by catsalad@infosec.exchange
2026-04-27T01:36:18Z
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@futurebird @lispi314 @phryk I've never though of using a lint roller for pest control (and find it very hilarious for some reason) 😹
(DIR) Post #B5hht1yKuwwMeqxaEa by DavidPenington@aus.social
2026-04-27T01:37:47Z
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@lispi314 Yeah. Farming aphids on a fruit tree is banned by me.
(DIR) Post #B5hhy8SkDJ1eEfcKVE by Brett_E_Carlock@mastodon.online
2026-04-27T01:38:43Z
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@futurebirdLint roller is inspired! I'll have to try that on our milkweeds!
(DIR) Post #B5hjCeOAPSALGFxf04 by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2026-04-27T01:38:35.134471Z
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@catsalad @futurebird @phryk I had the thought of adhesives when thinking of ways to handle wasps that might make it inside my home, since anything else seems too likely to get me stung.(Vacuum + putting the container in the freezer immediately after just doesn't seem very practical.)
(DIR) Post #B5hjCfVIGRScieIrkO by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T01:52:34Z
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@lispi314 @catsalad @phryk I think wasps might be strong enough too free themselves from tape. The lint roller only works on aphids because they are very passive creatures. Absurdly passive, really.
(DIR) Post #B5hkUUJ0jlFF9hcRCC by phryk@mastodon.social
2026-04-27T02:06:59Z
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@futurebird @lispi314 @catsalad Won't the wasp be pretty angry if it's fixated like that? Also, how would you get it off the tape without getting stung?Personally, I tend to just put down the blinds and open a window – the light from outside is usually enough for them to find the way out out after a couple minutes.
(DIR) Post #B5hm1QtMY9gI4vta2S by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2026-04-27T02:11:19.935157Z
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@phryk @futurebird @catsalad I was thinking of terminating it afterwards.I don't have any convenient to open windows.Last instance was in a room where shutting down the light would've required me to get close enough that stinging would've been a problem. (Physically destroying the light fixture would have been similarly unsafe.)
(DIR) Post #B5hm1SIvIbimSUrVWC by phryk@mastodon.social
2026-04-27T02:18:31Z
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@lispi314 @catsalad @futurebird Then why not just outright use one of those electric flyswatters?Without ever having used one of those on a wasp, that intuitively sounds like the most reliable way to me.If you go for tape and swish at it and don't properly catch it on the tape, you'll have the same issue as with a normal fly swatter if you don't kill it on first try: You're now dealing with a wasp that's pissed off.
(DIR) Post #B5hm1T9k8DyL6JZgqe by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2026-04-27T02:19:42.875331Z
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@phryk @catsalad @futurebird > Then why not just outright use one of those electric flyswatters?I don't have one.What I did at the time *was* the impractical trapping in the vacuum container, freeze it and dump it outside several hours later. (How lucky that my freezer was empty enough.)
(DIR) Post #B5hm1TpDe19JAwyoUq by catsalad@infosec.exchange
2026-04-27T02:21:57Z
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@lispi314 @phryk @futurebird Just catch them with your bare hands, like my Dad used to do 😱
(DIR) Post #B5hm1USZHicn8zOEpU by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T02:24:06Z
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@catsalad @lispi314 @phryk gonna have gross sticky fingers unless you can train ants to help you.
(DIR) Post #B5hmAyL7Ys2yQAQarA by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2026-04-27T02:22:28.809643Z
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@catsalad @phryk @futurebird He either got stung a lot or had quite the calloused hands.
(DIR) Post #B5hmAzUNHx2jz9lUv2 by catsalad@infosec.exchange
2026-04-27T02:24:36Z
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@lispi314 @phryk @futurebird They hardly ever stung him. Me, however, they LOVE 😭
(DIR) Post #B5hmB05x2F6JrhLVUO by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T02:25:51Z
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@catsalad @lispi314 @phryk Oh I thought you were saying your dad caught aphids with his bare hands... not wasps. Many wasps are male and can't sting. If you can spot a male you can freak people out by catching it like a firefly.
(DIR) Post #B5hmS13ci56LlzN2pc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T02:28:58Z
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@catsalad @lispi314 @phryk Hilariously some male wasps are very territorial and will do aggressive things like flying at you to defend the nest site they have found for their future girlfriend. This works on most large vertebrates since ... well wasps sting. But the one who is charging you can't ...he's just counting on you seeing wasp colors and not wanting to make him angry.
(DIR) Post #B5hmbd4Gl1kcGaFyaG by ProcessParsnip@mastodon.ie
2026-04-27T02:30:40Z
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@futurebirdgah, that's so cool!!"What'd you say to my FUTURE WIFE THANK YOU???"😂 @catsalad @lispi314 @phryk
(DIR) Post #B5hmj14ntOJWks1s0G by phryk@mastodon.social
2026-04-27T02:32:01Z
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@futurebird @catsalad @lispi314 Oooh, that might've been what the last wasp I killed a couple years back was doing. Kept aggressively flying into my face and following me.
(DIR) Post #B5hnIHDvqiUyyD71iy by phryk@mastodon.social
2026-04-27T02:27:27Z
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@lispi314 @catsalad Well, if it's enough of an issue to think about at this depth, it might be worth the investment, considering you can get them pretty cheap.Not gonna talk you out of the tape idea, but I'd be curious to find out how it turns out if you try it.Also @futurebird correct me if I'm wrong, but agitated (generic/social) wasps release pheromones that attract and agitate other wasps, so there's a definite incentive to do the deed quick or not at all.
(DIR) Post #B5hnIIUH9RAMtBlaq0 by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2026-04-27T02:31:01.551854Z
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@phryk @catsalad > Also @futurebird correct me if I'm wrong, but agitated (generic/social) wasps release pheromones that attract and agitate other wasps, so there's a definite incentive to do the deed quick or not at all.That was indeed one of my concerns.My hope was that the airtight seal from the two layers of adhesive would contain it, but yes, managing it is hard and just spending a plastic bag with the frozen wasp (and whatever was already in the vacuum) in the trash is just... easier.Those swatters are obnoxiously expensive but I might anyway.
(DIR) Post #B5hnIJhQe1HWeGvbyi by phryk@mastodon.social
2026-04-27T02:34:23Z
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@lispi314 @catsalad @futurebird No idea what region you're in, for a quick comparison I just looked at US amazon and saw a 12$ one in the first couple results.Pretty sure I've seen them for around 5€ in cheapo shops around these parts (central Europe), too.
(DIR) Post #B5hnILD1248tKWiLqq by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2026-04-27T02:36:59.296427Z
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@phryk @catsalad @futurebird Amazon for some reason seems to inflate the prices here much worse than some other resellers I found after (their sites suck even worse, so I first checked Amazon).
(DIR) Post #B5hnIMI10xjggK3rHc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T02:38:20Z
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@lispi314 @catsalad @phryk How many wasps do you think live in this nest?How big is it?If it's bigger than a golf ball it's not a joke to deal with.
(DIR) Post #B5hnVKT95uMUnfS6Fs by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2026-04-27T02:39:22.685978Z
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@futurebird @catsalad @phryk Well, for now thankfully there is no nest.It was a stray one that somehow got into my kitchen (probably ate through some part of a wall somewhere, it's an old building).
(DIR) Post #B5hnVLcknfdqNkxHs0 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T02:40:45Z
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@lispi314 @catsalad @phryk If it's just one it will leave if you make the window the brightest part of the room.
(DIR) Post #B5i7fSEX50ZOrMirHk by jorny@mastodon.social
2026-04-27T06:26:40Z
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@futurebird I am a bit curious how you water the plants, do you have a water outlet up there, or do you have to carry the water? Maybe even some rain water collection?
(DIR) Post #B5iB0ftVmdoPAjhUGm by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-27T07:04:08Z
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@jorny There is a hose hook up.
(DIR) Post #B5ih4PiL51vUgKIjr6 by kimlockhartga@beige.party
2026-04-27T13:03:20Z
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@futurebird nice to see you!
(DIR) Post #B5isxOgRiDOQuNpvBQ by flancian@social.coop
2026-04-27T15:16:32Z
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@futurebird very cool, nicely done! Inspiring; over here there's no roof space for me but I'd like to get into a community garden, there's a waiting list.
(DIR) Post #B5j6WySNzzOvOeYSOG by Landa@graz.social
2026-04-27T17:48:38Z
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@futurebird that’s a nice place for a rooftop garden!And I totally know that feeling, having put together a strawberry tower with 9 whole plants (the ones that have tiny sweet fruit, the kind one never gets in stores).
(DIR) Post #B5jrnBcXWHRMhbXKFc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-28T02:38:11Z
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@catmisgivings Sometimes. We talked a lot more during lockdown. And on holidays people come out and party on the balconies. But often it's pretty dead and feels like I have the whole roof to myself.
(DIR) Post #B5khl8cUtstgQurSSm by noodlemaz@mstdn.games
2026-04-28T12:20:30Z
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@futurebird love this snark, it's exactly what I feel when people bang on about grow your own. All of us with balcony space or not even that bristling..!
(DIR) Post #B5l2pJfPrqugtI3mls by Landa@graz.social
2026-04-28T16:16:33Z
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@futurebird feeding the pests to the ants…Are there any ants that eat slugs and are they looking for an employer?@lispi314 @phryk
(DIR) Post #B5lAbGbhFNhmyn8Ezo by nettings@mastodon.social
2026-04-28T17:43:39Z
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@futurebird @lispi314 @phryk I use glue strips on the trunks of fruit trees and vines. They get the hint and move to the sturdier trees.