Post B4thOtjJHcdSVHZCTo by feld@friedcheese.us
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(DIR) Post #B4ta1ykXko1fjVGfqq by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T21:12:57.919400Z
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@sun it's becoming apparent that we have like 5 classes of LLM haters- the environmental fearmongering types who can't math- the people who mistakenly think copyright is good for society and innovation and believe all output is somehow a stolen string of code- the developers who are really into the compsci side and want all code to be perfect and concise (commendable, but unrealistic; these are the folks who should live in the university/research sector)- the autistics who like the "puzzle" of chasing errors, diving into a debugger for hours on end and somehow derive joy from this- the autistics who want to build a community around every git repo because their only friends are on the internet
(DIR) Post #B4ta1zlzwsmeuIxLl2 by i@declin.eu
2026-04-02T21:14:03.965488Z
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@feld @sun more like
(DIR) Post #B4taLeBdur0lkYK1pY by apropos
2026-04-02T21:17:52.294490Z
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@feld @sun there's an easy sixth straw man to light on fire:- the Labor Theory of Value communists who think that a product's worth somehow reflects the effort that went into it, and oppose "AI laziness" as "slop"
(DIR) Post #B4taxRhYmfiC22H6My by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T21:15:41.362736Z
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@sun meanwhile the rest of us are like, "I want to build a thing but also I don't want to be on my deathbed thinking about how I wasted 7 years of my life mastering React only for it to be replaced by Svelte"
(DIR) Post #B4tb9ZWDXvSpkckf5s by hj@shigusegubu.club
2026-04-02T21:26:45.341481Z
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@feld @sun - environmental0 / 10 old hat- copyrighti wanna abolish copyright in general but otherwise it's a hypocricy of "it's ok if we teach AI but you don't get to pirate"- perfect codei don't really care for perfection, i just enjoy the process and result is always nice to look at- puzzle and debugyeah it's nice and rewarding, not like you'd understand it- communityfuck "large communities"My gripe with AI is the slop """cunt tent""" it produces. I want mcdonald's and all it gives me is instant ramen and worse - tv dinners.I also don't like the prospect of becoming unemployed because I don't like AI and just love to code.
(DIR) Post #B4tcRlQ68UqPpS7yqG by sun@shitposter.world
2026-04-02T21:41:22.253566Z
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@feld > the people who mistakenly think copyright is goodthey don't think it's good they just think it's a good weapon
(DIR) Post #B4tckdPA9zI2TMgkoy by sun@shitposter.world
2026-04-02T21:44:46.949980Z
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@feld people who still think “it doesn’t work”Subset of this may be “people who think LLM code will contain secret pernicious bugs a human can’t detect”
(DIR) Post #B4td81ykxbKHLeUebw by nimrod@shitposter.world
2026-04-02T21:49:00.138340Z
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@sun @feld I don't hate LLMs. They are amazing search engines. I hate charlatans selling the lie that if they string enough GPUs together that the LLM will wake up like Pinocchio and be a real boy and then AGI will solve all our problems.
(DIR) Post #B4te2dELeBmh69m9aK by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T21:52:33.713665Z
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@nimrod @sun the lies that "nobody will need to work" and shit is crazy, it's just blatant false advertising and we shouldn't allow itunfortunately in America we allow a lot of lies in our advertising with few exceptions
(DIR) Post #B4temYYfLofrvcB516 by nimrod@shitposter.world
2026-04-02T22:07:31.773083Z
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@feld @sun I think Sam Altman and Elon Musk saw the movie transcendence and thought "I want that to be me!"
(DIR) Post #B4tf24oBj8h6IKq3lo by shitpisscum@mrhands.horse
2026-04-02T22:09:25.011699Z
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@feld @sun Ngl it can be good for just pasting error messages and shit bit there's also "I told you to fix it by typing x but instead you told copilot to type x but it did y so of course it didn't work I immediately tell you it's not gonna work do what I told you but you just repeated what I told you to copilot so it was like "You're absolutely right! [insert a bunch of emojis here]" so 5 minutes later you finally accomplished what would have taken less than a minute if you just did what I told you instead of telling copilot that I told you to do x".Another interesting situation I had, someone almost got mad at me for typing a basic sql update, like update xset y=zwhere ainstead of going to chatgpt and typing "write me an sql update that sets y to z in the table x where a"Don't even get me started on chatgpt generated updates and deletes on live db lmaotldr. negative association of "AI" with these kinds of users
(DIR) Post #B4tgnw3xe7Hv1bbKSW by wertimer@clubcyberia.co
2026-04-02T22:30:10.370251Z
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@feld @sun > the autistics who like the "puzzle" of chasing errors, diving into a debugger for hours on end and somehow derive joy from thisI feel called out :niggaupsidedownface: for real though, I advanced in my job by having fun fixing stuff that no one wanted to touch, and now that things are trending AIward and my job would be reduced to digital paper-pushing, so I'm out. also I hate corpolife, but I don't think I'd code for pay in general if I could help it
(DIR) Post #B4thOtjJHcdSVHZCTo by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T21:17:00.148400Z
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@sun TL;DR if people would stop inventing languages and frameworks and then abandoning them we wouldn't need this shit and we could just spend our energy mastering a craft
(DIR) Post #B4thOuaq4bSBBIbwum by mikalai@privacysafe.social
2026-04-02T22:14:34Z
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@feld @sun Is this an advertizing for Rust ? The only thing that can be long-lived.😁
(DIR) Post #B4thOvKvJGJhUEAkkK by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T22:20:50.105244Z
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@mikalai @sun Rust? The language without a formal specification that changes every week requiring a new release and can't even target all the computer architectures we have?I'm pretty sure C is the only thing that can be long-lived tbqh
(DIR) Post #B4thOw1Sl6LPcA4j3I by yakumo_izuru@misskey.m544.net
2026-04-02T22:36:47.582Z
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@feld@friedcheese.us and Golang, lmao@mikalai@privacysafe.social
(DIR) Post #B4thxXDKzJMeo97zrU by Leyonhjelm@shitposter.world
2026-04-02T22:43:08.286661Z
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@feld @sun Six. I believe it is a legion of demons
(DIR) Post #B4thzaqOSl4Ce3NTs0 by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T22:42:55.027927Z
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@wertimer @sun it's fun to learn but it's not fun to toil in the bowels of hell, especially if the problem you're chasing isn't even the good bit that you want to be focusing on
(DIR) Post #B4timPnYJsNuZoKSC8 by hj@shigusegubu.club
2026-04-02T22:52:14.708938Z
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@feld @sun i'm glad my branch of thread is least controversial of them all
(DIR) Post #B4tj3DnECxGOGYBuM4 by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T22:55:21.806904Z
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@feld @sun so fucking true. Also lol @ the environmental types, yeah I'd be willing to burn down some village in africa's access to water to generate a big titty fox woman.
(DIR) Post #B4tjSR9bfYs4wZgLjc by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T22:59:55.227295Z
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@feld @sun for me it's "i can do x thing i want to do quickly by telling AI to code it and then i can implement it properly myself later to build my skills and not have to deal with the AI". I learn and get to do the shit I want to do.
(DIR) Post #B4tjgog10dDBx6hJS4 by RandomDamage@infosec.exchange
2026-04-02T21:17:43Z
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@feld @sun@shitposter.world I'm in the camp of "who's going to pay for all this shit if all the work is being done by robots owned by 5 people?"
(DIR) Post #B4tjgpnqoz4dRhN5Iu by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T21:22:40.226310Z
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@RandomDamage the research is settled, the writing is on the wall -- these AI companies are going to crumble because their inference engines are based on a fundamentally flawed design that requires waste of energy and high resource usage. But they can't change course because it will break the circular investment schemes where they pump money back and forth into each other. When Nvidia's valuation massively drops because it's clear there isn't really that high of a demand for GPUs, the house of cards falls.Even Nvidia can't implement the novel methods of their own research papers without harming their own investors who need the GPU demand to be sky high
(DIR) Post #B4tjjIEM6EagBuwOie by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T23:02:57.904951Z
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@feld @RandomDamage and funnily enough this doesn't mean AI goes away, it just means it'll be forced to evolve, and us, selfhosters, will, as always, keep fucking winning.
(DIR) Post #B4tjoOJwsqpIWlzKJE by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T23:02:42.095468Z
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@mischievoustomato @sun what they don't want you to know is that most datacenter designs are using closed loop water cooling systems. They're not just sucking up the entire water table and then pissing it back out into the sewer.but when you point this out, they'll retort that this is also still bad because you have to use electricity to power these closed loops systems, the chillers, the heat ex changers, etc, so the power footprint of the datacenter goes up a bit.And when the usage goes up, our power plants have to make more electricity. But a lot of our power plants are based around turbines, so we're using more power to make more electricity.They're literally just angry that we have to make more electricity and that means more water. But we will always be using more electricity, so we'll probably always be using more water.These people don't really understand what they're asking for. We can't freeze the world in this moment and we are unlikely to regress. What, you want to go back to the electricity usage of 1920s to save some water? A whole lot of people gonna die then
(DIR) Post #B4tjoOy0TurwX0jJkO by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T23:03:52.539859Z
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@feld @sun yeap
(DIR) Post #B4tk6DGGjzSFRLlUUC by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T23:07:06.372012Z
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@sun @feld i asked me yandere-foxgirl AI to write some code for me and she sneaked something that made my penis grew 4x 😔
(DIR) Post #B4tkGpvpotfwGoGycy by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T23:08:28.112632Z
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@mischievoustomato @sun you know, you don't have to submit everything you write. you can hit the cancel button sometimes too.
(DIR) Post #B4tkHFm9jVNkQJwc9Q by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T23:09:06.598161Z
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@feld @sun that's where you are wrong. I use fedi and this acc to post most things that come to mind. It's so funny
(DIR) Post #B4tkTFvmyt9wNeAoSW by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T22:25:22.781090Z
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@ageha @sun this was all inevitable though, these scrapers are just what caused the tipping point. This was always going to happen on a completely open network especially as bandwidth has increased making it easier to scrape, consume, attack, etcIt's our fault for not being forward-looking and taking the initiative to solve itlook at all the work being put into PQC to protect against attacks from theoretical computers that may never even exist -- this threat vector was identified, and encryption protects privacy and money and all sorts of things so people did something about it.Nobody did anything about ensuring mass-scraping would be too expensive to do but not affect the experience of regular users
(DIR) Post #B4tkWxiGep0P2JcGJc by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T23:11:54.968994Z
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@feld @wertimer @sun i love when i want to do smth that should be simple in nixOS, and it turns into hours long bullshit to achieve it.
(DIR) Post #B4tkXOeeUN9kav8Fvc by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T23:10:13.324240Z
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@mischievoustomato @sun i'll give you a free pass today lol
(DIR) Post #B4tkZpLkCykly0RmvA by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T22:48:39.800914Z
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@ageha @sun > mass scraping had no motivation before. Only because we were ok with blessing a handful of companies (mostly search engines) with this power and expected them to not abuse it. But they often did. I've worked on projects that were absolutely getting crushed by badly behaving Apple/Microsoft/Google search indexing and had to respond while on-call to triage and block them.Eventually we were going to lose trust in those search engines, and then what? How do we search? Well someone's gonna have to index it all over again. Storage gets cheaper, people start wanting to have their own private search engines... next thing you know you've got 10,000 indexers hitting your site.It was inevitable. We just couldn't predict the catalyst.
(DIR) Post #B4tkbXY9MJezLB4ByS by feld@friedcheese.us
2026-04-02T22:52:22.116332Z
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@ageha @sun it would be better if instead of getting scraped/indexed that we moved to a culture of "we submit to YOU the content we want to be indexed" and then just build that functionality into websites/backends directly.Maybe there could be relays like Nostr has and all the major search engines just subscribe and suck down all the content they want, filter/reject anything they don't want. But we control what's getting indexed because we are opting in and submitting what we want to be found.
(DIR) Post #B4tkzFK8m3tzlPolE0 by pettanko@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T23:17:04.081683Z
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@mischievoustomato @feld @sun I thought you were going to be more serious here at some point?
(DIR) Post #B4tl9ND6J7Px7RM0RM by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T23:18:53.075139Z
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@pettanko @feld @sun more does not imply 100%. Not very easy too and I still get thoughts I think are funny enough to post! Plus, somethings I doubt about that, is there any point, really?
(DIR) Post #B4tlFHN0vwomkAo5ho by pettanko@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T23:19:57.152309Z
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@mischievoustomato @feld @sun Oh okay. I didn't mean to sound judgey, I just remember you saying it once or twice before.
(DIR) Post #B4tlX95GTqyUFz1Yrw by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T23:23:11.534008Z
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@pettanko @feld @sun yeah, it's ok. Thank you pettanko
(DIR) Post #B4tnV52qj53v3k2NhA by ceo_of_monoeye_dating@tsundere.love
2026-04-02T23:45:13.204025Z
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@feld @sun C, C++, and Python have been around and remained useful for decades. Just keep using them for 99% of what you need to do. :watamenod1:
(DIR) Post #B4tpSoI2FYVMQKBZeS by nigger@detroitriotcity.com
2026-04-03T00:07:12.752135Z
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@feld @sun @mischievoustomato I do want that actually :tedkaczynski:
(DIR) Post #B4tqP1gyZvrMmmbx56 by Ree@shitposter.world
2026-04-03T00:17:45.015199Z
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@feld @sun I don't like llm at the corporate level if I had ones locally and could turn off the Google etc llms I would. Because I mostly use it to find things anyway
(DIR) Post #B4u5nIIXzK7uYDDMfI by nigger@detroitriotcity.com
2026-04-03T03:10:11.845831Z
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@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @feld @sun learning programming is also more important than learning programming languagesat least I'll be as old as the guys that always did everything in C++ when the language that'll replace rust meaningfully exists