Post B3dSn4cGii91r0KFPs by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
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(DIR) Post #B3dE1lmNXTy8SnbVwG by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T01:59:40Z
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my roommate's new Microsoft Surface Hub is running a wacky version of Windows 10 that popped up a "You need to download something from the store to support this file!" message when I tried to run a win64 exe.HOW DO YOU MAKE A WINDOWS THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT RUNNING EXES?
(DIR) Post #B3dEA3b9AmOW2oInnE by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:01:14Z
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that's an insult to computing, your glorified program loader
(DIR) Post #B3dEIH0FDZuPw2xX4y by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:02:37Z
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@brooke this is x86!
(DIR) Post #B3dEKVVCHUfJU0VCU4 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:02:54Z
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and this is an x86 computer here, not some weird ARM nonsense.
(DIR) Post #B3dFdkb2U9EfkkyUOu by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:17:50Z
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it's running "Windows 10 Team edition", a very specific and weird SKU
(DIR) Post #B3dFoTCZUxnMzRdq5Y by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:19:49Z
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It's the most infuriating and useless version of Windows I've ever used.and for context I've recreationally run Windows ME before. My autobiography is being written on Windows 95.
(DIR) Post #B3dFswVySIu73pqkHw by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:20:35Z
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It's my roommate's Surface Hub. It's a 3 or 2S, we're not 100% sure yet. https://digipres.club/@gewt@treehouse.systems/116122905249248331
(DIR) Post #B3dFxZxtiolqZY7b9s by backerman@infosec.exchange
2026-02-24T02:20:16Z
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@foone I'll always wonder how Microsoft managed to design the Hub knowing they'd want to buy lots for internal use and yet it doesn't have a smart card reader.
(DIR) Post #B3dFxb7VQa3C9dcmm0 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:21:29Z
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@backerman surely they just built a USB smartcard reader? I saw they had a fingerprint reader add-on, surely smartcard would be possible
(DIR) Post #B3dG0ZR29J05nUAyky by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:21:53Z
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@matildalove eh... if not we are dangerously close
(DIR) Post #B3dG5D8YTpLO5ZkHwG by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:22:52Z
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we are currently trying to update it into usefulness
(DIR) Post #B3dGB8JvIjVCt6t36u by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:23:49Z
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@gewt I bet the hard drive they put in this thing isn't terribly fast, so yeah that'll probably take another pile of hours
(DIR) Post #B3dGEUZj0xjSmLsbcO by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:24:29Z
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@gewt I have literally reimplemented the windows 95 progress bar in the last week. microsoft used to be able to do progress bars, but then they lost it
(DIR) Post #B3dGKf2f0pr6yiM6kq by markc568@beige.party
2026-02-24T02:25:34Z
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@foone @gewt Microsoft has always seemed to be the king of ‘lowest common denominator’ hardware.
(DIR) Post #B3dGOh8f9tCcdj5Qoq by backerman@infosec.exchange
2026-02-24T02:23:56Z
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@foone It's a standard issue item, but why not include one? The extra COGS is only a buck or two and it's a weird omission on a five-figure device.
(DIR) Post #B3dGOhuAJHCT13JMrQ by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:26:23Z
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@backerman yeah. it's strange.
(DIR) Post #B3dGtFxAHcytIpHVUO by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:31:50Z
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It's a whole different interface to Windows, very mobile-like. You can get File Explorer but it can't view stuff outside your home dir and external drives. There's no windows->run and seemly no task manager on ctrl-alt-delete
(DIR) Post #B3dH1nFuLlIQu97ReC by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:33:27Z
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oh and it uses a tiling window manager.here's a video showing the UI:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9nAwiS-m_4
(DIR) Post #B3dH56jQOXiMB3VPcG by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:33:56Z
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@ann3nova I don't think so? I can't recall if I checked that in my hotkey-spamming
(DIR) Post #B3dI3tjlK4STXXeOuW by mhoye@cosocial.ca
2026-02-24T02:36:52Z
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@foone This looks an awful lot like the Windows 10 version of Windows 8 if that makes any sense.
(DIR) Post #B3dI3vEzjR2GChGrEO by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T02:44:58Z
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@mhoye yep
(DIR) Post #B3dKHSdz3EcPTTXiWe by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T03:09:51Z
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We're feature updatin'
(DIR) Post #B3dSWlfVOr10SH43bE by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T04:42:13Z
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the official MS docs say that the way you get into UEFI on this one-button device is that you turn it on using the power button, then when it boots, you turn it off again, then turn it on againrepeat until it goes into uefi
(DIR) Post #B3dShbJmDsvPXU4C1o by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T04:44:13Z
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and when you're using the recovery tool, you have to stay in the roomcause it'll go to sleep if there aren't any people in the room, and that'll interrupt the download
(DIR) Post #B3dSn4cGii91r0KFPs by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2026-02-24T04:45:38.798486Z
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@foone Reminds me of sparc and/or macppc where you'd press the power button repeatedly during boot up to get a prompt from the boot software.
(DIR) Post #B3e6kRF08rBNJxjzG4 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T12:12:51Z
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Well we updated enough that it knows it's fucked
(DIR) Post #B3e6nVf89wyhu1QXMe by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T12:13:28Z
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The first option it gives you is "buy a newer one"The second option is "use the automatic update" which hasn't worked for three months
(DIR) Post #B3erhxAXfnsLJxyJvs by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T20:59:01Z
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the manual update says you should get two 32gb flash drives.the first drive will have the Microsoft Teams Rooms on Windows (an environment built on Windows 11 IoT) recovery ISOand the other 32gb flash drive will contain a 3 kilobyte certificate file
(DIR) Post #B3esBrzLV07zwQ04WG by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T21:04:27Z
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I'm gonna stick the cert on a floppy disk and see if that works
(DIR) Post #B3esEvBy2pWakIMJvs by rbairwell@mastodon.org.uk
2026-02-24T21:05:01Z
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@foone Has an issue with Win10 activation told to upgrade to Win11 and said PC wasn't compatible so I would have to buy a new PC. MS support said that wasn't necessary: buying a new Motherboard and CPU would do ..
(DIR) Post #B3esbdUQ1mtQVFowAi by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T21:09:13Z
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I should have a USB paper tape reader. 3k isn't too long on tape
(DIR) Post #B3esqLL3nLIkYKSLCa by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T21:11:43Z
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@gewt nah it's just enrolling a key into the UEFI, if it fails I just have to re-enroll a different key
(DIR) Post #B3et8ur6Tzpxv1IgRk by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T21:15:08Z
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also if it turns out Microsoft has somehow broken USB floppy drive support on this 9k$ paperweight I'm going to drive up to redmond with a hammer and take apart their HQ brick by brick
(DIR) Post #B3etqS2mxrsnIqWcsK by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T21:22:58Z
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@MonniauxD good question. it has some kind of sensor, which I think is maybe a motion detector?
(DIR) Post #B3ettO7hzvxY0oE7oO by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T21:23:17Z
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@MonniauxD the idea (in normal use) is that it stays off until you walk up to it, then it powers itself on
(DIR) Post #B3eu3Qe9THUajYBojg by burnitdown@beige.party
2026-02-24T21:25:22Z
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@foone "we like to break things. the things that make you go."
(DIR) Post #B3f1fk3qR8UTd6QJma by disorderlyf@todon.eu
2026-02-24T07:28:32Z
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@foone Wait, I thought Microsoft stopped updating 10
(DIR) Post #B3f1flBKGo4L6avo5A by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T22:50:40Z
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@disorderlyf they did, but this machine is 7 years out of date so we were installing old updates
(DIR) Post #B3f3ZMCUR8BVnYYBdo by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-24T23:11:59Z
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okay I was wrong, it doesn't just need a 3kb certificate file, you have to use another app to build a DFI update image from that.so it needs a 15kb file
(DIR) Post #B3gIIG8NQlx2X0tLV2 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T00:58:58Z
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The file is on a disk now
(DIR) Post #B3gIIHOMkoKqQtNd3o by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T00:59:32Z
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And I've got an iMac flavored floppy drive to read it with
(DIR) Post #B3gIII6K7NUsdDwjZo by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T01:01:56Z
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And we're installed! Apparently the UEFI on this thing does indeed support USB floppies!
(DIR) Post #B3gIIIkNiRXWdSgj0y by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T01:16:56Z
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Dang it. The floppy was fine, but it's not happy with my 32gb usb drive
(DIR) Post #B3gIIN41fLd81XuTBo by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T01:50:11Z
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huh. I was looking at the UEFI settings and they put "occupancy sensor" under "Radio". It's not a camera?
(DIR) Post #B3gIIR0H1F0OF4BWtc by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T02:33:31Z
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there's a recovery image from Microsoft I'm downloading through the Windows 11 Tool but it's downloading at like 0.1 millibytes per slow
(DIR) Post #B3gIIUz0DuMiaHcZTE by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T09:11:25Z
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tried again, and I think it finally stalled out at 20.39gb of 22.16gb
(DIR) Post #B3gIIZ0vEiHH5OYA1A by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T09:11:49Z
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that was like two hours of downloading ;_;
(DIR) Post #B3gIIcmXE996lvqj9E by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T09:11:59Z
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and there's no resume
(DIR) Post #B3gIIgqw5j2jOjwIYy by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T09:19:39Z
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"If the device was unplugged or experienced an abrupt power outage or pulled power cord, wait at least 15 seconds before attempting to boot from USB."what?
(DIR) Post #B3gIIlCLw2YEsJzSV6 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T09:19:53Z
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does the USB stack not come up in the first 15 seconds of power on?
(DIR) Post #B3gIIpgzE5QqoULynw by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T11:13:57Z
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AHHHHHHH IT STOPPED AT 21 OF 22GB
(DIR) Post #B3gKhMV16OgTQ8ZxB2 by etoneya@infosec.exchange
2026-02-25T03:00:38Z
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@foone all microsoft download servers are genuinely ass, i always try to make sure i have a copy of at least a windows 10 ISO on one of my servers, i really don't know how they do it...
(DIR) Post #B3gL3h2tOM87Vz4Y7s by sockatume@mastodon.online
2026-02-25T08:03:23Z
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@foone It’s RADAR! I have a laptop with this feature.
(DIR) Post #B3gM2HlQ0HUolkn8zY by Cadbury_Moose@wandering.shop
2026-02-25T12:13:37Z
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@foone Probably for an under-desk motion detector of some kind. Used in hot-desking workspaces to track which desks are in use. (They installed them at work, then COVID happened and we all worked from home - apart from the Operations staff and a few other essential people at the datacentre.)
(DIR) Post #B3gSIQ3BYs7EpOB7bc by ende_ohne@mastodon.social
2026-02-25T15:23:40Z
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@foone (sad) fun fact: Microslops servers can't count over 20 GB, they always let the download crash at that amount. Also happens on business SharePoint Online and OneDrive sites. It especially sucks when some guy thought it would we better to upload 250GB raw video footage to Sharepoint instead over fast corporate VPN to the local storage server
(DIR) Post #B3h4qpJrulHJIood7Y by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T22:35:51Z
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I finally got a version of the recovery disk downloaded, and it boots.It tries to recover to a version of windows 10 that's not terribly useful, but I think now that I have a working recovery disk, I can munge that disk into a windows 11 recovery disk
(DIR) Post #B3h4tpM6Ela4HbI2QC by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T22:36:16Z
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hey microsoft you could have made this migration go a lot smoother if you'd just told your recovery-image-generating-tool how to make win11 disks
(DIR) Post #B3h4xXlZZicQtCyd3g by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T22:36:31Z
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wait can I just lie to it that I have a Surface Hub 3 and it'll do that?
(DIR) Post #B3h4xcJ2hDlgyAfPma by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-25T22:36:52Z
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NOPE it tries to give me MTR
(DIR) Post #B3h6NCU7QD2UMxbvv6 by jernej__s@infosec.exchange
2026-02-25T22:52:00Z
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@foone Hint: try holding down Ctrl while it's booting up (after the spinner is displayed), that should give you a command prompt when WinPE boots; replace the USB with Win11 USB and run sources\setup.exe, hopefully it'll work.
(DIR) Post #B3hYhH0Z6xCuuG9CGu by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:10:14Z
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updating this thing is mainly a nightmare because the only updates I've managed to at all get working are the ones from the Surface IT Tool and it can't download most of the images because microsoft is storing the images on a server that someone reboots every 10 minutes or something
(DIR) Post #B3hYk7k21M9V2ElzZg by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:10:48Z
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microsoft, you know that resuming HTTP downloads has been a solved problem since, uh, 1997?
(DIR) Post #B3hZRphETQ9DoKJ1SC by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:18:37Z
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It's a 22gb file and it can go as fast as half a gigabit/s but it keeps just hanging at like 14gb in. Your only option is to cancel and try again, which starts from byte 0
(DIR) Post #B3hZUaYHEjabi4Qmjg by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:19:01Z
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they mention this might be a problem in one of the many FAQs, and they recommend you fix it by getting better internet
(DIR) Post #B3hZqbc1ySeRMzgYb2 by oscillik@mstdn.social
2026-02-26T04:23:06Z
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@foone Have you tried asking Copilot?
(DIR) Post #B3hZwHXFX7ykq69i0u by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:24:13Z
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I should MITM myself and see if I can figure out where it's downloading these files, and just curl it
(DIR) Post #B3haGCZ3iyF3DLV5nM by johnlogic@sfba.social
2026-02-26T04:27:46Z
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@foone The "most infuriating and useless version of Windows" invites a lot of competition.Other than fixing the Wait function in xp, every version has been downhill since Windows 3.11 .
(DIR) Post #B3haTK3JCCVcCauEJk by johnlogic@sfba.social
2026-02-26T04:30:09Z
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@foone can you download it using curl ?
(DIR) Post #B3hafFWxpiKbeZSqdk by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:32:21Z
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got it.https://surfacerecoverytool.download.prss.microsoft.com/dbazure/download/SurfaceHub3_BMR_155000_2023.815.94.zip
(DIR) Post #B3hapmdFcMMTDAQabA by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:34:14Z
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I'd be tempted to launch my win95 VM ad use GetRight to download it, but I imagine it'd have some issues with TLS and certificates and such
(DIR) Post #B3hb4IuOPYpzMxMzGi by RueNahcMohr@infosec.exchange
2026-02-26T04:36:50Z
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@foone wrap it in another vm that uses a man-in-the-middle security filter.
(DIR) Post #B3hbFgM5ZqtHH0kYoi by Fripi@chaos.social
2026-02-26T04:38:52Z
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@foone lol, that is exactly what @pallenberg was describing when emptying his cloud account. Azure must have some stupid stuff in there beyond the normal. Somehow around 20gb it always breaks.
(DIR) Post #B3hbezsy6KSn5LCTOi by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:43:29Z
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oh right I need to install TCP/IP onto my windows 95 machine firstlemme find my win95 floppies
(DIR) Post #B3hc3HfZdGaVBuW2bY by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:47:52Z
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Nah, MS won't let you download the file over HTTP, and this version of GetRight from 1997 doesn't support HTTPS.
(DIR) Post #B3hcL63VYFi6NqCkBU by grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange
2026-02-26T04:50:11Z
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@foone wow
(DIR) Post #B3hcQQ78Oygw2eRIeW by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:52:02Z
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the curl download failed with a connection reset after 17 minutes and 20gb! so I tell curl to resume it, and... the server starts over from the beginning. MICROSOFT'S STUPID SERVER DOESN'T SUPPORT THE RANGE HEADER
(DIR) Post #B3hcTJeItYaArMKohk by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:52:20Z
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IT'S 2026 BUY A REAL COMPUTER
(DIR) Post #B3hcfEkYw3gp8lwkYi by vivi@arff.archandle.net
2026-02-26T04:54:42Z
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@foone WITH WHAT MONEY :vivi_yell_cry:
(DIR) Post #B3hciUAk3J3rqAjzlo by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:55:19Z
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@vivi MICROSOFT IS WASTING BILLIONS ON AI, SURELY THEY CAN SPEND SOME MONEY ON A RASPI RUNNING APACHE
(DIR) Post #B3hcpbLdlsoW7gEQU4 by vivi@arff.archandle.net
2026-02-26T04:56:37Z
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@foone oh that post didn't get federated to me as a reply i thought it was a standalone command for gamers :vivi_neutral:
(DIR) Post #B3hcz57oQl8F54HgZ6 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T04:58:20Z
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anger canceled, I was just misreading curl. it did resume. so again, why doesn't microsoft's official tool do this?
(DIR) Post #B3hd1mbhjhGsW8YPqK by jbaggs@infosec.exchange
2026-02-26T04:58:32Z
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@foone This followed by the release of NT not living up to promises is literally what got me into BSD and Unix back in 1996.
(DIR) Post #B3hd91jLuFB1RsaMbI by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T05:00:05Z
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anyway I have the file now. There's a metadata JSON file that I don't have, but it looks very fakable. Then I can use the official recovery tool to build me a bootable USB drive, like it's supposed to be able to do
(DIR) Post #B3hdQ4vzFQKmJ9csXg by rakslice@mastodon.social
2026-02-26T05:03:11Z
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@foone like I'm just like: at this point can we just say tl;dr: this sku was created by a wizard and it's haunted
(DIR) Post #B3hecAxEn50cPNXkIa by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T05:16:33Z
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FUN FACT: the Surface IT Tool doesn't seem to validate any of the windows version info you give it in the JSON file!
(DIR) Post #B3hfHv4qDEprKP0MSG by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T05:24:05Z
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yeah no it just failed verification. So I'm just going to try to download it, again, and again, and again, until I get lucky
(DIR) Post #B3hfUJRlQrVINtdVoG by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T05:26:21Z
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it already hung
(DIR) Post #B3hgxa1sxQHYAO3Fdg by livefish@mastodon.ml
2026-02-26T05:42:45Z
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@foone exes ran from me when I touched windows instead of touching themSwitching to Linux solved my problem. Now I can touch it safely without anybody interrupting me
(DIR) Post #B3hicvtGgQuVnJIqrQ by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T06:01:34Z
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currently on attempt #8#7 made it to 17gb (of 22gb)!
(DIR) Post #B3hjL4Um3GaxDvtRAm by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T06:09:31Z
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slightly tempted to automate it. watch the screen for the visible download amount, and if it hasn't changed in Xty seconds, hit cancel, restart.
(DIR) Post #B3hjSxEMwf1n0eyjzc by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T06:10:57Z
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cross your fingers, we're at 19gb and still climbing at 76 Mbps!
(DIR) Post #B3hjasvEqe3xxnoPTs by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T06:12:24Z
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21gb!!!!
(DIR) Post #B3hjvzC8iolzUzmNQ8 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T06:16:11Z
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OH MY GOD ARE YOU SERIOUSLY DOING THIS, MICROSOFT
(DIR) Post #B3hk5QfnvX6BKP9pNQ by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T06:17:53Z
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bad idea: I already MITM'd this once. I download the file with curl and stick it on a local fast server. Then I set up mitmproxy to silently rewrite requests to their shitty server to my local one, which will be an actual server that works and doesn't randomly drop connections once out of EVERY FUCKING TIME
(DIR) Post #B3hkFerm0pNuF7dL3Q by xinit@mastodon.coffee
2026-02-26T06:19:43Z
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@foone CC: Google Takeout
(DIR) Post #B3hkIhzQr6oMnbfcjQ by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T06:20:20Z
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annoyingly I already deleted the file I downloaded earlier.(I'm juggling laserdisc archival files right now, so my laptop has a VERY full hard drive, and I thought I was done with that file when it failed verification)
(DIR) Post #B3hkgOKRbfsYlsn8IC by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T06:24:34Z
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my first attempt and curling it stalled at 16mb.not gigabytes, megabytes. hey microsoft could I mail you some blank floppies and you just return 'em with the file on it? that might be easier at this point
(DIR) Post #B3hloWy9Sv99q8oEq0 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T06:37:14Z
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my best guess for what is happening: I'm getting randomly loadbalanced onto a bunch of very overloaded servers.
(DIR) Post #B3hm2ABqxDBtFKic0e by deshipu@fosstodon.org
2026-02-26T06:39:41Z
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@foone my experience with mailing Microsoft anything is that it gets delivered, and then they claim they didn't get anything
(DIR) Post #B3hmQA4t1VlHqcu3jk by FantasmitaAsex@todon.eu
2026-02-26T06:44:00Z
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@foone probably their AI decided that supporting range headers aren't necessary...Also, I have the vibe, that someone vibe coded that crap server.
(DIR) Post #B3hmd1QkU9oSnEGGxs by malwareminigun@infosec.exchange
2026-02-26T06:46:22Z
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@foone happy for the browser. Sad for the server
(DIR) Post #B3hoY8HXmfUIVFkhPc by rotopenguin@mastodon.social
2026-02-26T07:07:49Z
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@foone THEY'RE ALL OVERLOADED BY YOU. IT'S ALL YOU
(DIR) Post #B3hp06gJKPbxeCfxku by RueNahcMohr@infosec.exchange
2026-02-26T07:12:56Z
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@foone maybe look for a bit-torrent of it?
(DIR) Post #B3hpEbZJHtBJUpJZ9k by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T07:15:36Z
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I have downloaded the file and I'm now copying it onto my local server. why didn't I just download it on my local server in the first place, so I wouldn't have to copy it across my house's network? good question.
(DIR) Post #B3hpXpjopVqwwbOn1k by prma@chaos.social
2026-02-26T07:18:59Z
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@foone Did it go as smoothly as planned? 😁
(DIR) Post #B3hptisb0gBC2mwSbg by michaelguntsche@fosstodon.org
2026-02-26T07:22:59Z
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@foone Can you please stop DDOSING MS infrastructure by downloading one file from them, I am trying to work here, thank you.
(DIR) Post #B3hrX4LZEFbPs5ooYy by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T07:41:18Z
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okay the files all moved locally so I can just make mitmproxy point it at the different URL. but I think I have been screaming at this problem enough for one day, so I'm going to stop for tonight.the surface hub has not defeated me yet, I fight on
(DIR) Post #B3htShz2dJEJGMKZKS by rifter@mastodon.social
2026-02-26T08:02:51Z
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@foone I look forward to your success 🫡
(DIR) Post #B3hzSsf1XEyk6PQuEy by raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place
2026-02-26T09:10:02Z
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@foone a constant problem on my work computers, they're forced to send all their traffic through zscaler for "security" which caps it at about the speed of around 1 megabit with constant dropped packets (because though they're expensive as hell their servers suck) The microsoft stuff is always failing and completely restarting downloads instead of resuming (you can force a resume manually on sharepoint at least, but it won't try automatically!)How anyone uses their stuff by choice I don't know
(DIR) Post #B3i23ydGUmGbFJQXBI by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T09:39:15Z
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I lied. mitmproxy is now redirected to my local server, and Surface IT Tool is downloading from it. annoyingly slowly, actually. Only 51Mbps? this is 22gb! (it's probably because mitmproxy is handling all the bytes instead of letting nginx do it)
(DIR) Post #B3iCjSJo1jJWjLk5k8 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T11:38:48Z
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okay I have made a recovery disk by using the MITM download hackhow much do you want to bet this thing won't even boot?
(DIR) Post #B3iDGukRLaxASY9eCW by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T11:44:52Z
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it boots! it's now recoveringthis may finally get us incrementally closer to a version of windows that actually works
(DIR) Post #B3iH2LXlq5QF2OXOJE by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T12:27:03Z
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It replaced the windows logo during boot with the teams logo
(DIR) Post #B3iH5athD9OJWbLEtE by ozzelot@mstdn.social
2026-02-26T12:27:36Z
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@foone can it run 9front
(DIR) Post #B3iH8aSVIY9r2839KS by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T12:28:11Z
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It just showed that it was logging into a user account named "Skype"
(DIR) Post #B3iHEGwSm3H6Eym2tc by silvermoon82@wandering.shop
2026-02-26T12:29:15Z
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@foone Cursed!
(DIR) Post #B3iHHNiI3RcC6ucx6G by sudo200@layer8.space
2026-02-26T12:29:32Z
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@foone TeamsOS
(DIR) Post #B3iHKWR05OeO1l2Oiu by gregly@retro.pizza
2026-02-26T12:30:19Z
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@foone Oh man, GetRight! Core memory unlocked!
(DIR) Post #B3iHYNPyPFEQ7KACsi by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T12:32:54Z
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Yeah I can't get past the setup. It gives me two accounts, Skype and Administrator, and the latter is passworded, and the former doesn't work because I can't login to a Skype account
(DIR) Post #B3iHenot9pe7jqsiyO by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T12:34:03Z
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This machine is a fractal paperweight
(DIR) Post #B3iHyXkyabnPiASsoC by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T12:37:37Z
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There are two recovery images I have that work. One of them boots to an environment that can't use the store and can't run software until it gets to the store.The other can't log in because Skype is gone
(DIR) Post #B3iI1c68u9cc2ppTBA by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T12:38:10Z
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@quad ooh, thanks!
(DIR) Post #B3iI9eoggJ9knCV4ka by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T12:39:37Z
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@Rairii the official policy is "fuck you"
(DIR) Post #B3iIghwK5fkC2Epbcm by wall_e@ioc.exchange
2026-02-26T12:45:31Z
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@foone aah just like the olden days!
(DIR) Post #B3iJ9XEAzqpTD5vb3A by Cadbury_Moose@wandering.shop
2026-02-26T12:50:47Z
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@foone Hotdesk special? 3:O(>
(DIR) Post #B3iJLV3WtfCDwweZTE by wall_e@ioc.exchange
2026-02-26T12:52:58Z
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@foone clearly you now have to reverse engineer the network communications it tries to have with skype and setup a Potemkin Skype Server on your network! That sleep's not gonna come any time soon 😄
(DIR) Post #B3iPJsaT2Kkw4nfcNE by onion@mastodon.tal.org
2026-02-26T13:58:26Z
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@foone had a S2 collecting dust at work, installed win 10 (now 11) a couple years ago, the guide was simple enough to follow https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/surface-hub/surface-hub-2s-migrate-os
(DIR) Post #B3iUZxGzsill0v32Lg by tezoatlipoca@mas.to
2026-02-26T14:58:44Z
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@foone I saw this toot flow by in my feed and I've spent 10 minutes catching up on this ... sysiphian trail. Have you considered the Teams Hub Surface is a legendary cursed item and it already has you enthralled? Would you like an intervention? Can we install linux on it?
(DIR) Post #B3iWGvePtARUOA3dOC by cnd@mstdn.social
2026-02-26T15:17:39Z
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@foone You should try adding 0.0.0.0 config.edge.skype.com and 0.0.0.0 get.skype.com to your hosts file on the Skype image if you can get to it and maybe try to use an existing Skype account - MS never killed the servers properly as of a few months ago and I'm not entirely sure how they stand now but it's worth a shot.
(DIR) Post #B3iXcW4Tm2LNNc6cSG by baralheia@dragonchat.org
2026-02-26T15:32:50Z
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@foone *growls and hisses at computer* Evil incarnate
(DIR) Post #B3iY6cfXo8jkWvnZIG by Furball@tiggi.es
2026-02-26T15:38:19Z
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@foone @baralheia Yes officer that’s them right over there 👉
(DIR) Post #B3iytZ8WKPdmZVLmO8 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T20:38:24Z
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@cazabon I can't boot anything except recovery images at this point. If I try to boot anything else, it just tells me it can't boot
(DIR) Post #B3iz1Z8KDwCOsX4cwi by wyatt@soc.megatokyo.moe
2026-02-26T15:22:01.598767Z
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@foone install unencrypted, boot linux, chntpw? unless i greatly understand the nature of this hardware
(DIR) Post #B3iz1aJLqQc4X1Ewls by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T20:39:26Z
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@wyatt at the moment, I can't boot anything on this system except the two recovery images: it refuses to boot anything else I've tried.
(DIR) Post #B3iz59TxXHPeTuu2UK by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T20:40:37Z
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@tezoatlipoca yes I have considered it's cursed: we've had this thing for 5 days and that idea has been brought up multiple times.an intervention is not needed... and it refuses to boot anything except the recovery images, so I'm unable to install linux on it at this time.
(DIR) Post #B3iz8rvuj0R5DDkbzc by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T20:41:19Z
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@onion yeah this is the guide I've been following, it doesn't seem to work. The Windows 11 boot disks don't boot on this
(DIR) Post #B3izDr7z98h6A8m7Cy by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T20:42:12Z
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@quad that'd be neat but at no point has this system even let me look at the C:\I've only gotten neutered File Explorers that don't go above C:\Users\WhateverUser
(DIR) Post #B3j4P8csvZvrOBQYK0 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T21:40:09Z
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@cazabon the problem isn't the OS, it's getting something to boot. so far I've only got two recovery images that boot, and I don't know how I can get more. I'm currently planning to try recovering it to a version of windows intended for a different version of the hub (3) to see if that works
(DIR) Post #B3j7oFaIUg7K4Vsnzs by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T22:18:24Z
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IT LIVES! AND WE HAVE UNKIOSKED WINDOWS 11 IoT!
(DIR) Post #B3j7wI0lM3Bpuo5yO8 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T22:19:52Z
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The trick was installing MTR (Microsoft Teams for Rooms) and then logging into the passworded Administrator account ("sfb": "Skype For Business") and deleting the Skype account. Now it boots to 11 IoT and I can run updates
(DIR) Post #B3j80Qy9zUoSr9r1Vo by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T22:20:39Z
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And the machine can finally, FINALLY after 4 days become useful and a real computer:
(DIR) Post #B3j8CpWQWwYUTpnEY4 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T22:22:51Z
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Windows if you fuck me here after all I've been through, I swear to god...
(DIR) Post #B3j8FHRjgB7PfIldL6 by kirby@freerobuxextremist.com
2026-02-26T22:23:32.052780Z
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@foone https://massgrave.dev
(DIR) Post #B3j8OiZ4Dva0NRhFU8 by timixretroplays@digipres.club
2026-02-26T22:24:58Z
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@foone it's a touchscreen, right? Get some UnDuneII going on there: https://liquidream.itch.io/undune2Or the holy grail for me (and the reason I looked at these big Surface things a while ago) is to get some touch-enabled The Incredible Machine play going.
(DIR) Post #B3jBKWSPb1shWzH63c by Cadbury_Moose@wandering.shop
2026-02-26T22:57:47Z
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@foone 🏆 Crikey! (and very well done.) 3:O)>
(DIR) Post #B3jBd6K4zHiLykEi0W by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T23:01:14Z
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okay so if you are unfortunate enough to get a Surface Hub 2S and want to make it run Useful Windows (linux would be nice but I haven't figured out how to boot it) instead of Broken Windows, you need to:1. Get the Surface IT Tools2. Go through the whole SEMM mode enrollment with the private key and such3. Try to create a Surface 2S MTR 22H2 recovery disk. The download will fail3a. MITM Surface IT Tools to get the URL of the 22gb file you need.
(DIR) Post #B3jBl69bV237lt9LXc by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T23:02:38Z
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3b. write an addon for mitmproxy to redirect Surface IT Tools to a local server you control4. actually make the recovery disk5. Recover the Surface Hub 2. 6. It boots into Skype setup7. Exit and log into administrator, password is "sfb"8. Delete the Skype account and uninstall Microsoft Teams Rooms9. Run Win11 updates
(DIR) Post #B3jBr4VMXlImOWAwpE by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T23:03:45Z
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I think the fundamental problem with this device is that they ship it in a super-locked-down mode that can't do anything unless you install more software from the Microsoft Store... and as of last December it can't talk to the Microsoft Store anymore.
(DIR) Post #B3jBtmcxT5CToj1NzM by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T23:04:10Z
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so the easy migration tool they had available can't be installed and even if you could install it, it wouldn't work
(DIR) Post #B3jBwIxEFS6ielhmF6 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T23:04:34Z
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So instead you've got these instructions, which do not work:https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/surface-hub/surface-hub-2s-migrate-os
(DIR) Post #B3jC0YQ2h0QRmID0AS by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T23:05:29Z
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because the way it suggests to make a recovery image doesn't create a recovery image this locked-down fucker will boot. Only the Surface IT Tools recovery images will boot, and Surface IT Tools can't download files worth shit, so good fucking luck getting that 22gb image
(DIR) Post #B3jCG7ySmWLSOUjcIK by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T23:08:18Z
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also the Surface IT Tool verifies _something_ (I wasn't able to confirm what) with the microsoft servers before it'll write you an image, even if you have the image already downloaded.So I highly suspect this method will break in the future
(DIR) Post #B3jCJ1N7mjQkmoeL5M by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T23:08:48Z
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I should just make an image of the final recovery drive it creates, and stick that on the internet archive. DD it to your own 32gb drive and bypass all the nonsense
(DIR) Post #B3jCcCh5uit5P48Zmq by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-26T23:12:16Z
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BTW this is one of my favorite kinds of projects. You pick a shiny computer out of the garbage saying "why would anyone throw away this expensive fancy new computer?" and then slowly over the course of multiple days you Learn Why
(DIR) Post #B3jDdX1jtyA6hzzV20 by coriander@elekk.xyz
2026-02-26T23:23:37Z
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@foone Ah yes the project car effect
(DIR) Post #B3jEliZAyzCElg68ie by knutaf@mastodon.gamedev.place
2026-02-26T23:36:20Z
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@foone revived an extremely old Asus eeepc of mine that hadn't been used in like 15 years. Got arch running on it only to find it was so underpowered it could only watch YouTube videos at 1 frame every 20 sec. Can't believe I used to be able to code on that on windows
(DIR) Post #B3jFwefZuXD7p1s6Vc by DarcMoughty@infosec.exchange
2026-02-26T23:49:30Z
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@foone The question is... will your server allow this download to start where it left off, or do you want to retain an echo of the original evil?
(DIR) Post #B3jLDJAJcFBJp00c6K by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T00:48:36Z
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I don't think I ever really explained why this is such a pain: The boot is locked down, and it's a real idiot-light kind of system. By default the UEFI does not allow changing the OS. It boots off the internal HD or not at all (although I think if you have an external drive the right signatures that's running the same OS, it doesn't consider it a problem and will boot it? No way to check that)
(DIR) Post #B3jLK7loNhv6VUnW8O by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T00:49:50Z
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You can use the Surface IT Tool (on a different machine) to make a special USB key that will reconfigure the system, based on a private key you generate, and this enables "AllowOSMigration" in the EUFI config. Basically all other UEFI options are locked down even in the special SEMM mode tool.
(DIR) Post #B3jLOO55gCCoFjqdpw by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T00:50:40Z
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And once you've got SEMM mode (I don't remember what it stands for, I'm too tired to look it up, and I'm pretty sure the last M is "mode" anyway so this is a case of RAS Syndrome) it supposedly will boot from USB devices
(DIR) Post #B3jLWELBmHr6MP7MP2 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T00:52:05Z
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however I was only able to find two images that it would boot from, despite what the doc pages say. Those two recovery images are the Win10 Teams Edition image and the Win 11 IoT Microsoft Teams For Rooms "Skype for Business" abomination.
(DIR) Post #B3jLbAi8hW28YCD0eu by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T00:52:58Z
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I tried a bunch of other images, linux installers and such, regular windows 10/11 installation media, nothing happens. It won't boot them, it doesn't say why, there is no way to override. Secure Boot is an open in the UEFI but it's locked, and the SEMM tool cannot change it.
(DIR) Post #B3jLmd5lWMnll4iu3c by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T00:55:01Z
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So I'm REALLY limited in what I can run on this thing. To get a Linux to boot I think I'd need to do some UEFI hacking (like enrolling other certificates somehow) or maybe boot hacking (load grub/ubuntu install using a chainloaded NTLDR?)
(DIR) Post #B3jM34zJZXhwuRY9c8 by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T00:58:00Z
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but for now we're probably leaving it on Windows 11 and declaring victory. It works enough for what we plan to do with it (Draw with the Surface Pen and make House Billboards/Grocery Lists) and it means we can declare victory here
(DIR) Post #B3jY63a8SIwOroxUiu by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T03:12:56Z
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@JustinDerrick ahh, very cool!
(DIR) Post #B3jYeVnS3mlaDfcI1w by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T03:19:04Z
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Krita seems to support the pens well if you uninstall Microsoft Teams Rooms and then assign all the buttons to "Nothing".Krita can then use the pen, with pressure sensitivity, the side button, and the eraser button. You do have to switch it to the other Touch API, though, in settings
(DIR) Post #B3jYhRJz9hKzCzEKMy by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T03:19:29Z
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also I accidentally Doomrolled my roommate: She was trying to use Krita and accidentally launched Doom II fullscreen
(DIR) Post #B3jYk999BYUTi1S2ng by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T03:19:57Z
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because I had configured the eraser-button to launch Doom if you tapped it, then got distracted away before I could test or reset that
(DIR) Post #B3jYyK3XQ9I3bAaTaq by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T03:22:49Z
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Doom II at 320x240 opening on a 3840 x 2560 50" display that you're half a meter from is a sight to see. pixels the size of hams
(DIR) Post #B3jZ5gTsRbJ3AuPwxM by alexglow@chaos.social
2026-02-27T03:24:05Z
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@foone Incredible
(DIR) Post #B3jZJ0MJqi3UafEZqy by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T03:26:26Z
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@sophia81 I will say the Windows 11 interface DEFINITELY is doing a "mobile/desktop hybrid Windows" design better than Windows 8 did.At least on this screen. It might help that it's stupidly huge, I'm not sure I'd like this on a 7" tablet
(DIR) Post #B3jkSwoeyX9dzgQy2a by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2026-02-27T05:31:22Z
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@foone Install the 2023 secure boot keys (which can be done on all systems that trust the Microsoft KEK) and you will be able to boot any Linux installer signed with the 2023 keys (which uh ok not sure which off-hand)
(DIR) Post #B3jwf5k0oiJ4bDoj0i by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T07:48:07Z
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@mjg59 I'm not sure how I'd even do that on this particular system: the UEFI is locked down, the tool to administer the UEFI doesn't let you change those settings, and it is VERY picky about what it'll boot
(DIR) Post #B3k0G8A15HSmgEKkLo by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
2026-02-27T08:28:29Z
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@foone These are designed to be updated from the OS, I can give you a win32 binary that does it
(DIR) Post #B3k1XFvnXv9JepPfJQ by Niall@mastodon.nz
2026-02-27T08:42:46Z
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@foone let's see a pic!
(DIR) Post #B3k8UDoDgBdxszMuAK by ProphetsCross@mastodon.social
2026-02-27T10:00:39Z
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@foone This reminds me of my experience Librebooting and tearing my hair out at 3AM wondering why the programmer wouldn't work
(DIR) Post #B3kAt1K5RHT4JEE75U by Roxas@chaos.social
2026-02-27T10:27:32Z
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@fooneJust a wild guess: is it "Windows 10 S-Mode"?If yes, it is/was Microsofts attempt to make a competitive tablet product and is reduced to only run Windows Store/UWP Apps (make it more "secure").You can try to exit S Mode and let it run like a regular Windows.https://windowsforum.com/threads/exit-windows-s-mode-step-by-step-guide-risks-and-troubleshooting.403023/
(DIR) Post #B3kBS0BZewRMuvvRS4 by d1@autistics.life
2026-02-27T10:33:54Z
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@foone Vibe coding introduces such mamby pamby weaknesses, where we would expect awesomess. I too have nerd rage once in a while, but it's usually towards #Apple products
(DIR) Post #B3kC2J0PAI0ji90o3k by ShaulaEvans@zirk.us
2026-02-27T10:40:27Z
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@foone Flashback to the time I brough home 30 desktop towers that were being thrown out at work and for months the entire living room floor was made up of disassembled machines being cannibalized for parts to rebuild one another.It was AWESOME.
(DIR) Post #B3kV5nBrIGEHKDkHq4 by da77a9@infosec.exchange
2026-02-27T14:13:55Z
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@foone not in a Redmond way it hasn't. BITS wasn't invented until 2001.
(DIR) Post #B3kWCM4kbTPhDC78Rk by tehfishman@ioc.exchange
2026-02-27T14:26:19Z
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@foone cursed version of "there are two wolves inside you"
(DIR) Post #B3kisxxxJiG6L61LpQ by storiesofapple@bitbang.social
2026-02-27T16:48:24Z
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@foone thank you, it was very, very… exciting and entertaining. Also: I'm making a note to avoid that kind of hardware at all costs. ;-)
(DIR) Post #B3kzGGgnT8jAKr805w by Canageek@wandering.shop
2026-02-27T19:51:58Z
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@foone Oh, damn, that's a normal monitor, I thought you'd somehow got your hands on one of those big tables that Microsoft was really excited about for a bit. The ones that showed up in that weird NCIS spin off that flopped and everyone was excited about using for dungeons & dragons.
(DIR) Post #B3l6actZJh44g1kxyi by abetterjulie@wandering.shop
2026-02-27T21:14:07Z
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@foone haha, this made me laugh
(DIR) Post #B3lFejZ1MdU06ZB9yy by foone@digipres.club
2026-02-27T22:55:14Z
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@Canageek sadly not, it's just a big touchscreen with a fancy stand and an underpowered embedded machine glued on the back