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(DIR) Post #B3UVhJAuEIIqi1pWlc by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2026-02-19T21:05:50Z
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@fisher @dec23k Oh come on, doesnt desire drive your every day? To pleasure? To write good code for yourself and others? Why make light of desire?I fully understand why and how eg. smtp mail works and why the limits are there. That's not my problem. My problem is our problem: these services are frozen in place, and treated as if they're immutable aspects of nature. They're manmade and inadequate to task. And when i stated the difficulties in doing such a basic thing, sharing photos and conversation with a friend electronically, theres a bunch of posts as to why smtp can't do that etc. Totally off subject. What i heard was, "im not doing it right". Duh, i know and stated that up front. But no right way exists! Decades in! Thats the point. I was frustrated because it sounded like tech folk defending how things are, and not exploring how things could or might be.
(DIR) Post #B3UVlDdImCoEgAyccq by Lizette603_23@mastodon.social
2026-02-19T21:06:30Z
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@tomjennings "desire" sort of puts body parts on a will to do something.
(DIR) Post #B3UbwGvBURLzmwzkBc by fisher@toots.nu
2026-02-19T22:15:45Z
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@tomjennings @dec23k It looks like you're blaming technology and 'tech guys' as if it's their evil will to annoy you, while in fact, the problem is much broader than that. Why don't you invest your time and create your own proto to exchange files directly between end users? Which is, in fact, impossible to do w/o an intermediary server - due to slow adoption of IPv6. Do it and face the final boss - the same who killed other attempts like bittorrent. The same who makes e-mail just spam bucket.
(DIR) Post #B3Uc9NvekNnlHqT6IK by fisher@toots.nu
2026-02-19T22:18:07Z
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@tomjennings @dec23k "a basic thing, sharing photos and conversation with a friend electronically" -- as I said in the very first post here, there is at least one solution that I know - the name is 'telegram'. I'm sure there are others.
(DIR) Post #B3Ueb7i8q33n0KV9O4 by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2026-02-19T22:45:35Z
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@fisher I see no binaries here. I most certainly am blaming tech guys and technology, coupled irretrievably as it is from capitalism and exploitation. There exists crafting even software outside of capitalism. I'm not a technologist, haven't been for some time (I'm realizing from many convo's on the fedi!)@dec23k
(DIR) Post #B3Uel0Mj0HA97QCCbw by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2026-02-19T22:47:21Z
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@fisher Fraught with surveillance and other intolerable problems for many people.If these are your proposed solutions, we should probably stop now. I'm not angry or whatever at you or really one one, but it appears our worldviews do not overlap in compatible ways.@dec23k
(DIR) Post #B3VlIWEgKDzaOyl1sW by dec23k@mastodon.ie
2026-02-20T11:35:18Z
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@tomjennings In your first post about this, a few days ago, you asked:"But what do normal folk do? Use evil services I assume".There have always been alternative methods, some good, some evil.I have always sought the least-evil options. The best one I know of currently is a fork of Send:https://github.com/timvisee/send-instances/I get that you are annoyed, but I don't get how attaching files to emails became the method, so widely used, by so many, for decades, despite being so inefficient.@fisher
(DIR) Post #B3WOc8We5MLqrzVOG8 by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2026-02-20T18:55:53Z
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@dec23k @fisher I'm leas annoyed now, lol. Still annoying. Efficiency is a ratio... So compared to what? The issue isnt mechanical transportation of data from A to B. Its, you and i sit down to work on something, passing photos and writing notes, iteratively. How the machine accomplishes this is 1) immaterial in the moment and 2) simultaneously a clog in a network. The solution forced on us is to stop people from clogging the network. the real solution is better systems. Widespread ones. That take years or decades to work up and make assimilable. Theres a whole world of why this has not happened, we know what and why for most of it. https://xkcd.com/949/
(DIR) Post #B3WOhNWXkWNYpmxOim by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2026-02-20T18:56:50Z
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@dec23k @fisher Why should we change our lives to make it easier for our machines?
(DIR) Post #B3WQIgW4CPNaPH5SHg by dec23k@mastodon.ie
2026-02-20T19:14:45Z
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@tomjennings @fisher With my sysadmin hat on: sure, I could totally deploy "better systems" now by throwing a lot more RAM and network I/O at the existing setup, to be able to safely raise all of the limits. That would make no difference at all to most of my users, the top 20 quota-smashers would be happy, but the top 2 would always want more.But all my users would have to pay more, to cover the increased costs.
(DIR) Post #B3WXpkYSu5dQASvGOu by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2026-02-20T20:39:13Z
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@dec23k That's precisely the way of thinking I'm trying to get away from. There is no tool I know if that if you deployed it, that would solve this problem or others like it.This problem is not fixable by you or me. It's not an admin, sysadmin, user, or developer problem. Its a technical culture problem and we've collectively fucked it up.People do fix things -- ActivityPub! -- but it takes collective will. Which the fedi folk have done. But me and a friend, doing what we could so easily do sitting at a table, at any time in the last millenia, cannot do those simplest things online. Or we can in honeytrapped corporate surveillance pods; but even here, it's all proprietary and divided. It's just fucked.Large scale deployment of software on and within the internet just sucks. Except the net infra, that's pretty good. But none of it helps us live.
(DIR) Post #B3WXvISKHv7gl2hDai by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2026-02-20T20:40:12Z
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@dec23k That's precisely the way of thinking I'm trying to get away from. No offense intended, but there's no easy way to say this, our choices here are not free. There is no tool I know if that if you deployed it, that would solve this problem or others like it.This problem is not fixable by you or me. It's not an admin, sysadmin, user, or developer problem. Its a technical culture problem and we've collectively fucked it up.People do fix things -- ActivityPub! -- but it takes collective will. Which the fedi folk have done. But me and a friend, doing what we could so easily do sitting at a table, at any time in the last millenia, cannot do those simplest things online. Or we can in honeytrapped corporate surveillance pods; but even here, it's all proprietary and divided. It's just fucked.Large scale deployment of software on and within the internet just sucks. Except the net infra, that's pretty good. But none of it helps us live.
(DIR) Post #B3WeTHpLjOhuNY3WaW by error@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2026-02-20T21:53:31Z
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@tomjennings @fisher @dec23k Oh so you're blaming these little nasty tech guys for not giving you a ready-to-use tool. Aww, how cute
(DIR) Post #B3WwfZ01Vf5sHs3IdU by dec23k@mastodon.ie
2026-02-21T01:17:27Z
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@tomjennings Maybe my approach was informed by my first steps online: 1200 baud modem on an Amiga at home, and various PCs at work with 2400 baud modems and an X.25 line for work-related packet assembly and disassembly. Email and file transfer never had to be integrated.It seemed natural to send a secure download link by email, not the files.That fork of Send is what I recommend to everyone now.I have since read good things about (but not yet tried) copyparty:https://copyparty.eu/
(DIR) Post #B3XlBX3dGBWjEvB4To by dec23k@mastodon.ie
2026-02-21T10:43:29Z
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@tomjennings I'm reading this part again, more carefully:"you and i sit down to work on something, passing photos and writing notes, iteratively"The tl;dr here (which you have already looked at) is: try CryptPad.The issue is less of a virtual "documents, sent from you to me", and more of a virtual "sitting around the same table, looking at the same documents". Collaborating and revising, not necessarily copying back and forth.Present day 'evil' options would be Goog Docs or MS Office.