Post B3AzroWXdo0WINg2PA by Framasoft@framapiaf.org
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(DIR) Post #B38t9IGnDAaRTjmL9E by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-02-09T10:44:55.914Z
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Can anybody explain to me why this is in the FAQ section of PeerTube?Why do you explicitly insist on being an alternative?Why would do you want to coexist?Why do you not want burn Google down to the ground as an illegitimate monopolistic company and really aim replace Youtube altogether?@Framasoft@framapiaf.org
(DIR) Post #B38uRu4XVAVdt4U7we by tusharhero@mathstodon.xyz
2026-02-09T10:59:32Z
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@SuperDicq @Framasoft That is so strange.
(DIR) Post #B39HiU9JQy0hMCaqlk by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
2026-02-09T15:20:16.402505Z
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@SuperDicq @Framasoft Because google is basically centralized and they don't want that. So it can't be an alternative to fully centralize video platform.
(DIR) Post #B39TfLUmLolZ6Cu4pM by wafflesies@infosec.exchange
2026-02-09T17:32:53Z
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@SuperDicq @Framasoft youtube: centralizedhas tos related to using its api and siteoffers ways for content creators to monetizeintegrates with a google accounthas an upvote downvote systemhas algorithmic recommendationsmakes deals with creators to promote their channel and build the youtube brandhas adswhat about that do you want peertube to do?
(DIR) Post #B39TfMmtXwqr6gO3hg by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-02-09T17:34:06.199Z
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@wafflesies@infosec.exchange @Framasoft@framapiaf.org I want them to replace Youtube, not just be "an alternative".
(DIR) Post #B3AzrkgfuBjiOeO4e0 by Framasoft@framapiaf.org
2026-02-10T10:47:19Z
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@SuperDicq Hello!This FAQ entry covers multiple topics.While it's clear that we would prefer a world without Google/YouTube — that's why we launched https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/ and started working on PeerTube — we are honest about our limitations. We won't be able to compete directly with YouTube, Vimeo or any other video platform built by Big Tech. 1/?
(DIR) Post #B3AzrmF67grjDhV4wC by Framasoft@framapiaf.org
2026-02-10T10:48:42Z
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@SuperDicq The reason for this is pretty easy to understand: We don't have enough money for that, and we never will. We're just a small non-profit organisation funded by donations. YouTube's revenue for the full year of 2025 was around $60 billion. Our revenue for all our actions, including PeerTube, for the full year of 2025 was around €1 million. We're just not playing the same game.2/?
(DIR) Post #B3AzrnTJYJpd259wjg by Framasoft@framapiaf.org
2026-02-10T10:49:55Z
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@SuperDicq With PeerTube, our goal is to rethink what a video platform should be, outside of the attention economy. We don't want to trap PeerTube users on the platform using design patterns to encourage them to watch PeerTube content for hours on end. We want them to stay in control of their behaviour.3/?
(DIR) Post #B3AzroWXdo0WINg2PA by Framasoft@framapiaf.org
2026-02-10T10:50:35Z
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@SuperDicq With this in mind, we developed PeerTube in a very different way. While we are still working towards making PeerTube more welcoming for people used to centralized platforms, we don't want to hide the fact that PeerTube is decentralized, federated and built to empower people.4/?
(DIR) Post #B3AzrpFuv6IsZ6uH8C by Framasoft@framapiaf.org
2026-02-10T10:50:47Z
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@SuperDicq Finally, PeerTube was not built primarily for large-scale video creators. Our goal is to enable most people and organisations to take back control of their videos by drastically reducing the cost of self-hosting videos (even if it's still a bit expensive) thanks to P2P technology. That's why we haven't worked on any monetization systems, except for the 'Support' button, and have focused on institutions over the past year.5/?
(DIR) Post #B3AzrqKYvJc5to5V0i by Framasoft@framapiaf.org
2026-02-10T10:51:46Z
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@SuperDicq So, yes, PeerTube is not just a drop-in replacement for YouTube, which is much more than just a video platform. It provides an advertising system and analytics about user behaviour. But it's also an entire editing system with its own recommendation mechanics.6/6
(DIR) Post #B3AzrrEDaO8IgQ7wlE by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-02-10T11:09:27.730Z
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@Framasoft@framapiaf.org Thank you for your response.While it's clear that we would prefer a world without Google/YouTubeI know this, 'but to me this English FAQ sections sounds like you don't want a world without Google.It sounds like you just want to exist alongside, and that existing alongside is what you desire and nothing more. Which implies that what they are doing is not wrong, but just a simple matter of having a different opinion.Maybe you should a version of what you just explained here in that FAQ section instead?Or I would at least suggest to rework the text by replacing neutral words like "different values" with "more ethical values", etc. so it doesn't look like you are endorsing Google.
(DIR) Post #B3B08AbvI4oTQhzeZU by HatkeshiatorTND@annihilation.social
2026-02-10T11:12:36.984341Z
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@mangeurdenuage @Framasoft @SuperDicq that's his point. if the status quo is that everybody in town gambles for a living, and i come up with the idea of working for wages, i should aim to displace, replace, and abolish what came before. to wish to be an alternative pretends like you're dealing with a difference of opinion rather than architectural superiority, when the latter is the case for peertube w.r.t. youtube.
(DIR) Post #B3B0DcyHH3Wopv3HLE by HatkeshiatorTND@annihilation.social
2026-02-10T11:13:36.911252Z
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@wafflesies @SuperDicq @Framasoft the part you forgot, viz.youtube: has nigh-unto-monopolistic market share on public video hosting and sharing platforms.
(DIR) Post #B3B0SxFUAHla4OPR3Y by Framasoft@framapiaf.org
2026-02-10T11:11:45Z
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@SuperDicq Okay, I understand. Thank you for your feedback! I'll point it out to the rest of our team so we can discuss how to improve this FAQ entry.~ Booteille
(DIR) Post #B3B0SyOjtMlLdNkL7Q by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-02-10T11:16:18.960Z
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@Framasoft@framapiaf.org Great. P.s. I highly suggest increasing the default restrictive max character count of 500 in Mastodon to a more sane number like 5000. That makes long posts like you posted for most of us much easier to read and interact with. Here's a tutorial: https://mszpro.com/mastodon-character-count
(DIR) Post #B3B1vKmWMcOd7NxQwK by HatkeshiatorTND@annihilation.social
2026-02-10T11:32:42.627980Z
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@Framasoft @SuperDicq i will concede that youtube uses dark patterns and manipulative design and that this makes the battle uneven. i think that "we don't make the kind of money they do" is still a cop-out. when you're "not playing the same game," why play by the same rules -- or the same win conditions? i won't tell you how to do your job -- there's presumably a paid position at framasoft, which i would be happy to apply for, for just that -- but what i will say is that there is a tension between "we only made one million dollars, how can we expect to replace youtube?" and "youtube is where it is because its parent company is unscrupulous."in your final response, you note that you've no intention to be a "drop-in" replacement for youtube. i would not want peertube to be a replacement in that sense in the first place. by replace, what i (and, i assume, the original poster) mean is to have the reach that youtube does, having taken it away from youtube. of course, i don't expect that to happen any more than you do, but it will be far more likely (around 10^-100 instead of 10^-(10^100) of %) if you say with confidence, "yes, we can and shall outpace youtube a thousandfold! google won't know what hit 'em! peertube will be a household name! total soveriegnty for all users!"a final note on my own part, i notice you broke up your message into multiple shorter posts. this implies your instance -- which has "frama" in the name, so i presume it's organization-owned -- has restrictive length limits for posts or replies. if my guess is correct and you do control the instance, why not raise the limit? it's hardly encouraging to see you make six separate posts when i still have eighty-eight thousand, two hundred and three characters left on this one.
(DIR) Post #B3BAze3dXM4VeD5sJc by Mamako@tsundere.love
2026-02-10T13:14:20.929195Z
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@SuperDicq @Framasoft death to compromisers