Post B39WCaj2wjrdnbYd4C by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
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(DIR) Post #B39VqdoInSNyzmY6nw by mikoto@akko.wtf
2026-02-09T17:54:50.709794Z
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sparking of discord, as much as I'd like people to use alternatives, there sadly isn't really one that's all that reliablexmpp and matrix both have encryption management issues, irc lacks so much features, signal and telegram are both centralized and in the case of the latter has been under pressure from lawmakersyeah... this is the world we live in
(DIR) Post #B39W7dI9yewYJJcK2K by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2026-02-09T18:01:37.739837Z
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@mikoto Coming from Discord… why even seek the end-to-end encryption part of xmpp?(matrix meanwhile just breaks even without it)
(DIR) Post #B39WCaj2wjrdnbYd4C by tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com
2026-02-09T18:01:42.183729Z
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@mikoto Oh wow, it is: Nirvana fallacy :blobfoxowonotice: The nirvana fallacy is the informal fallacy of comparing actual things with unrealistic, idealized alternatives. It can also refer to the tendency to assume there is a perfect solution to a particular problem. A closely related concept is the "perfect solution fallacy".By creating a false dichotomy that presents one option which is obviously advantageous—while at the same time being completely unrealistic—a person using the nirvana fallacy can attack any opposing idea because it is imperfect. Under this fallacy, the choice is not between real world solutions; it is, rather, a choice between one realistic achievable possibility and another unrealistic solution that could in some way be "better".It is also related to the appeal to purity fallacy where the person rejects all criticism on basis of it being applied to a non ideal case.
(DIR) Post #B39WM5hJA9RmSmH3dA by lain@lain.com
2026-02-09T18:04:16.452157Z
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@mikoto foss devs need to step up if they want people to use their software. discord is better than matrix, irc and xmpp. source: people actually use it. we need to build systems that people actually want to use, not systems that we want people to use.
(DIR) Post #B39WTsfDVPlSMA0hvc by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
2026-02-09T18:05:36.304895Z
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@lain @mikoto xmpp is probably more widespread than discord.With proprietary paint
(DIR) Post #B39WVnFSbwry8jsJns by lain@lain.com
2026-02-09T18:06:00.632885Z
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@snacks @mikoto shows how meaningless protocols are
(DIR) Post #B39WidlDCLEkTiquo4 by lain@lain.com
2026-02-09T18:08:21.528130Z
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@meso @mikoto usecase?
(DIR) Post #B39WjIDcm7jPxQSAe8 by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
2026-02-09T18:08:21.618634Z
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@lain @mikoto pretty sure regular people won't hop on anything federated anymore, or at least it's gonna be actough sell. Even email is turning into a handful of silos nowadays :saddest:
(DIR) Post #B39e9vsAfGQI9O4JKS by bonifartius@noauthority.social
2026-02-09T19:31:44Z
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@meso @mikoto @lain big question is who wants normies around anyway. it's like inviting a methhead to shit on your carpet.
(DIR) Post #B39eDI3MecxzoKuBea by lain@lain.com
2026-02-09T19:32:19.154699Z
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@bonifartius @meso @mikoto who might want normies around? it is an absolute mystery.
(DIR) Post #B39ejsZoOfAcLvccfw by bonifartius@noauthority.social
2026-02-09T19:38:13Z
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@lain @mikoto @meso good that there's no shortage of normies, just go outside 💁
(DIR) Post #B39elVnS3z5qHTmRSS by lain@lain.com
2026-02-09T19:38:29.843459Z
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@bonifartius @mikoto @meso or on discord
(DIR) Post #B39fGgXKBNkQZE6MBk by Pi_rat@freesoftwareextremist.com
2026-02-09T19:44:10.042170Z
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@bonifartius @meso @mikoto @lain sigh...have to follow mesocel to read message
(DIR) Post #B39jPtEElKuMM0omw4 by bonifartius@noauthority.social
2026-02-09T20:30:38Z
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@lain @mikoto @meso well, yeah. people i used to play games with switched from mumble to discord after getting mrna'd. coincidence? I GUESS NOT!
(DIR) Post #B39kh41C04Jch7TBdw by nicholas@aklp.club
2026-02-09T20:44:54.838989Z
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I've heard tales from travelers bringing news from beyond the wall where they say the touching grass grows wild. And some even swear there are creatures there called "wives" and "girlfriends", which are like mutuals, but for some reason they aren't into commandline or debugging their messaging apps, and want things to "just work". What strangenesses will they tell of next?
(DIR) Post #B39qAKOWgx0zea9pGS by bonifartius@noauthority.social
2026-02-09T21:46:16Z
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@nicholas @mikoto @lain @meso yeah, it might seem to be like this :) fwiw, "not normie" includes fringy non tech people for me, those usually value the same ideas about how things should be done, they just have different skills. enough of those round fedi, rumor has it that some even are females [x]so.. maybe don't focus on convincing pzombies of something better? no point in that.