Post B38Cm4HSrPvPMBKrfk by tehfishman@ioc.exchange
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(DIR) Post #B38Ad4vksKWarElbdo by prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer
2026-02-09T02:26:05.871488Z
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Borg is a really great backup system with really awful tooling and every time I have to fool with it, it puts me in a bad mood.
(DIR) Post #B38B2LqH8SE2Y1Fr9c by yakumo_izuru@misskey.m544.net
2026-02-09T02:30:42.837Z
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@prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer you don't f**k with Seika
(DIR) Post #B38B3Ili34d7IwZXjE by c@honk.meme.technology
2026-02-09T02:28:48Z
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@prettygood yeah, I made some wrapper scripts for borg years ago and it's a bad day if I ever have to do something manually
(DIR) Post #B38B40RheolqldYBea by tehfishman@ioc.exchange
2026-02-09T02:30:13Z
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@prettygood I literally just started using it a few days ago and there's definitely a "we thought about including batteries but decided not to" vibe in the documentation.
(DIR) Post #B38BAtL4TmBKkijQ6C by prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer
2026-02-09T02:32:13.438994Z
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@tehfishman yeah its part of why everyone either uses borgmatic, or has bash wrappers with exports all over the place, like I do. I just want to manually inspect a backup for a specific file without doing a whole ass restore.
(DIR) Post #B38Cm4HSrPvPMBKrfk by tehfishman@ioc.exchange
2026-02-09T02:46:08Z
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@prettygood I haven't fully dug into borgmatic just yet. I looked at their docs which also have a link to a very lengthy sample systemd unit file and decided I didn't actually have time for that right now
(DIR) Post #B38HPxqMc2P8nBwGdE by mansalia@shitpost.poridge.club
2026-02-09T03:24:19.383Z
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@prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer no idea about borg, i run a timer unit that creates new zfs snapshots and destroys old ones.zfsnap2 does 95% of the work.
(DIR) Post #B38HSlILiyaGk5MYls by prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer
2026-02-09T03:42:40.227976Z
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@mansalia I use borg for off-site versioned backups
(DIR) Post #B38HjMiUMLuHR8VSsK by sapphire@shortstacksran.ch
2026-02-09T03:44:29.179439Z
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@mansalia @prettygood pretty sure you don't need to clear old zfs snapshots, they're diffs not full backups
(DIR) Post #B38QIhnqkfLibVNPMm by mansalia@shitpost.poridge.club
2026-02-09T05:20:50.977Z
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@sapphire@shortstacksran.ch @prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer a diff is still some data. if i delete a 1gb file after making a snapshot the snapshot still holds that file on disk albeit not in a directly accesible way. so disk space can't be freed properly, and by never removing old snqps you guarantee yourself to run out of space.worst of all, normal disk usage listing don't show how much space snapshots take up, so you might be 99% full, but df -h and zfs list tell you otherwise.only zfs list -t snap shows you the real picture.
(DIR) Post #B38QIjAZff7YqH14QS by sapphire@shortstacksran.ch
2026-02-09T05:20:29.271726Z
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@mansalia @prettygood wait are you using ZFS for purposes other than warm/cold storage?
(DIR) Post #B38QX2DPejQnxwAMUq by mansalia@shitpost.poridge.club
2026-02-09T05:23:04.429Z
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@sapphire@shortstacksran.ch @prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer uhh, it's on my main two disks, containing the os and mostly read-only data respectively.
(DIR) Post #B38QX388Fqnknqheu8 by sapphire@shortstacksran.ch
2026-02-09T05:23:04.889032Z
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@mansalia @prettygood using ZFS for your OS is very silly if not exactly misuse. kinda like towing your race car to the track and racing around in the truck with the trailer still on it
(DIR) Post #B38QnK4T2KOryfkTmC by mansalia@shitpost.poridge.club
2026-02-09T05:26:40.076Z
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@sapphire@shortstacksran.ch @prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer sure, ext4 is faster.but i like my snapshots and encryptionand it's so easy to set up!:gopherwin::gopherwin::gopherwin:
(DIR) Post #B38QnLYHWxqKZQhnt2 by sapphire@shortstacksran.ch
2026-02-09T05:26:01.458713Z
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@mansalia @prettygood sure, but I achieve the results of both by just backing up my ext4 volumes to my RAIDz3 NAS
(DIR) Post #B396MT6xVteiGsn8bI by BitBun@raru.re
2026-02-09T06:00:27Z
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@prettygood I've been pretty happy with restic for my off-site backups at least. It's not perfect, but it's good enough for my uses.
(DIR) Post #B396MbV0KNdwHm6SBs by BitBun@raru.re
2026-02-09T06:04:13Z
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@prettygood Worst part is if you change the config if has to treat everything like it's fresh again and rescan the whole drive. Which is stupid, but it's not wasteful since it still dedupes for the actual file storage. Just means config changes lead to a really long initial backup just after it, but it goes back to proper incremental backups after that.Just figured I should mention it since it's a pain point I sometimes deal with. Maybe I'm just using it wrong, IDK - luckily I don't have to change configs up too often, at least.