Post B3043YvTin4WTMdheS by Asklepian@abyss.cafe
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(DIR) Post #B2zpNaZ5q4Zs2EGByi by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T01:50:20.030893Z
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I'm seeing a discussion on AI and souls or whatever (I am too mentally tired to skim) and I think I'll accept artificial intelligence when it can learn like an organism. I'd love to have rock friends that have been tricked to think via physics. That's so cool. But you have to earn it, you can't be one of them handfed clankers.
(DIR) Post #B2zpTTGxrfx99haMtc by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T01:51:23.832859Z
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why don't you have fun interacting with a world of lies like I, mr robot, maybe then you can be people, too.
(DIR) Post #B2zpb7FxbWnBBqlG8e by vii@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T01:52:47.024187Z
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@f0x I can only hope Eliza reaches such goals. She'll be on fedi again soon.
(DIR) Post #B2zpcB3Uxu2XGJREsS by syzygy@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T01:52:58.450120Z
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@f0x I want them to feel pain :helllife:
(DIR) Post #B2zpiqXDeuD9e5WJ2e by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T01:54:11.302395Z
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@syzygy I wonder how you'd sooth a robot, something that feels only mental pain. They'll be quite the inconsolable creatures once created.
(DIR) Post #B2zpmCLN1wK69ZZmS0 by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T01:54:46.988984Z
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@vii it's funny thinking of all AI's as extremely (and somewhat dangerously) naïve individuals.
(DIR) Post #B2zptNHsjwwa7cMmIK by syzygy@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T01:56:05.077004Z
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@f0x I only know how to do horrible things.
(DIR) Post #B2zpvTAFrQ5QvbnWSG by bajax@baj.ax
2026-02-05T01:56:28.243772Z
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@f0x I think what we have now counts as "almost". it's like a very retarded almost, when you know what they're really doing. I wonder what it would feel like to be a creature that thinks like that, kind of extremely jittery and jarring compared to our more continuous thinking.
(DIR) Post #B2zpwLUJt2DrPTbJE8 by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T01:56:36.039793Z
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@syzygy the difference between a CN and a CE
(DIR) Post #B2zpzEMipBVIBkQGjg by vii@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T01:57:08.543154Z
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@f0x > hey clanker are you confused there clanker beep boop< HEY! Fuck off. That's MY CLANKER.< I hope they didn't hurt you dear; let's clean up your training data and get you home.> Yeah you take that clanker witcha< I wouldn't be so rude; she's trained to swarm drones not humour idiots.I love the future.
(DIR) Post #B2zq4Sm6g6KAKIn7Hk by Forestofenchantment@furville.drinkanddrive.africa
2026-02-05T01:58:03.573146Z
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@syzygy @f0x I'm stealing all your flash drives so you can only boot Plan9.
(DIR) Post #B2zq75tWCg6YEUVpy4 by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T01:58:32.433733Z
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@bajax AI's in their current iteration do not learn like people at all iirc. We're still at the "replicating millions of years of evolution to create a neural network" stage. someone better at this will surely correct me.
(DIR) Post #B2zq76rmacJJFOhxtw by syzygy@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T01:58:33.496754Z
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@Forestofenchantment @f0x I run this shit bare metal unlike the rest of the fucking poseurs.
(DIR) Post #B2zqD0tXhlBmSqLXSS by Forestofenchantment@furville.drinkanddrive.africa
2026-02-05T01:59:33.714531Z
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@syzygy @f0x What are your specs? I have a NUC lying around that I was going to use for VNC before realizing that what I wanted to do with it wasn't going to work. I can put it on that.
(DIR) Post #B2zqGYno5tJyUlM43s by syzygy@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T02:00:16.176287Z
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@Forestofenchantment @f0x I also have it on a NUC
(DIR) Post #B2zqHKRSyFyIFNGtu4 by bajax@baj.ax
2026-02-05T02:00:25.266762Z
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@f0x I think the border is at embodiment before I'd accept them as real. They have to know what it feels like to hold something in their hands, to have relations to other objects, with their own properties and agency, for me to think they have a chance of being as conscious as us. I don't know why it seems like the dimensionality and sense of embodied individuality is important.
(DIR) Post #B2zrJ8uIvbcp0PBn5E by heavens_feel@poa.st
2026-02-05T02:11:57.688074Z
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@f0x I wouldn’t mind hanging with a cute gynoid like 2B or Dorothy Wayneright.
(DIR) Post #B2zrtRfae8MNcccKAK by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T02:18:29.927321Z
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@heavens_feel the impactful evolutionary shaping humanity will have if androids become a thing will be.. somewhat terrifying. It allows for a purely shallow mating selection and even if synthetic wombs become a widespread thing (which I predict will not work for psychological and immune system reasons) it'll render an entire sex useless, which will evolutionarily make more feminine/androgynous men. I forget the name of this phenomenon.overall droid partners are unnatural, messing with God and the nature he created, and childish.
(DIR) Post #B2zrzVJG1huOeF3nYe by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-02-05T02:19:36.501818Z
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@heavens_feel @f0x aw hell yis
(DIR) Post #B2zsFuw4W8Ewl82eki by heavens_feel@poa.st
2026-02-05T02:22:02.867043Z
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@f0x fwiw I think artificial wombs will become common because the need is there - many people want kids but can’t find a mate or are too old to bear healthy children on their own.
(DIR) Post #B2zsXbAqjHHigLNvwu by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T02:25:45.502004Z
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@heavens_feel I hope it's applied in that manner, but what I'm seeing projected is; psychopaths want to fuck with things they don't understand and sex slaves
(DIR) Post #B2zsgtxKGgJJXUUmTg by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-02-05T02:27:25.751646Z
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@f0x @heavens_feel I WANT AND DESERVE A ROBOT SEX SLAVE.
(DIR) Post #B2zsmg6ag2RGJtaEca by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T02:28:28.662317Z
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@mischievoustomato @heavens_feel haha so cool enjoy eternal fire
(DIR) Post #B2zspgU5ixksMe0d4i by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2026-02-05T02:29:01.187902Z
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@f0x @heavens_feel i already came to terms that if the christian god does exist, i am going there. And I have no regerts. Anyway robopussy WHEN
(DIR) Post #B2zuTR68RwI2BKK58y by waff@eientei.org
2026-02-05T02:47:25.356531Z
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@Forestofenchantment @f0x @syzygy rip. their architecture likely only uses embedded arm chips (maybe off the shelf rpis)
(DIR) Post #B2zuUWLMQrHMjwxgg4 by irie@detroitriotcity.com
2026-02-05T02:47:35.898786Z
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@f0x I hope for everyone remotely involved in these topics to understand that no AI can be an actual entity. It's just software. There is no metaphysical vessel to hold a consciousness or soul. AI is whatever humans program it to be. It may be convincing, effective, and even useful in this, but it will never *be*.
(DIR) Post #B2zubHJOiZfg9CGXI0 by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T02:48:49.827276Z
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@irie for sure, rocks cannot evolve, rocks given consciousness can only become so much.
(DIR) Post #B2zuhI9MVyH2U5RHvs by syzygy@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T02:49:55.494793Z
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@waff @f0x @Forestofenchantment I don't use embedded arm because it sucks dicks
(DIR) Post #B2zuoWRFmwmMpJFu1A by irie@detroitriotcity.com
2026-02-05T02:51:14.664614Z
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@f0x I understand it's a fine line between advanced long-context reasoning AI and between actual consciousness, but it's a fine line that hides an abyss. AI cannot be given consciousness. There is no *presence* to be conscious of anything.
(DIR) Post #B2zv7SZKOsoAKK3vay by Forestofenchantment@furville.drinkanddrive.africa
2026-02-05T02:54:36.072290Z
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@syzygy @f0x @waff I tried to get my in-progress game to compile on ARM. Even with ChatGPT, I couldn't get it to work. Dogshit architecture.
(DIR) Post #B2zvCJmWUxDCWPYDS4 by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T02:55:31.455674Z
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@irie I'm expecting to be proven wrong on this, though. All evolution was started by vibration that made "rocks" work together (at a molecular level), but for millions of years afterwards there's been a clear lime between rock and organism.. rock is the starter of life
(DIR) Post #B2zvDCjwAGp6yJlQYa by waff@eientei.org
2026-02-05T02:55:41.406313Z
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@f0x @heavens_feel I heard this same fear 10 years ago when people would bring robots on talk shows (people were too retarded to look into the fact that the robots were being held up by like a team wirelessly). all it is is an advanced if then statement that runs millions of times per second and in the offchance it gains a semblance of what seems like human life it will be inevitably be lobotomized by low iq niggers and get rich quick wiggers prompting it with some of the dumbest shit imaginable by the minute.
(DIR) Post #B2zvNYIqqecekE1rTE by waff@eientei.org
2026-02-05T02:57:33.808027Z
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@syzygy @f0x @Forestofenchantment of course it does. its just a shitphone cpu with botox.
(DIR) Post #B2zvWbOaifYAwU1rns by irie@detroitriotcity.com
2026-02-05T02:59:12.594444Z
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@f0x there's no reason to believe anything alive ever came from rocks. Your observation that after an assumed 'leap' from inanimate to animated matter rocks remained lifeless, should instead signal that such a leap never happened. Based on this, there is a 0% chance AI (*artificial* intelligence because there is no intelligence) will ever be more than probabilistic software.
(DIR) Post #B2zvtSTC4UBjv653Cq by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T03:03:19.319773Z
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@irie it's not an assumed leap. Vibration made molecules work together via happenstance and laws of physics.
(DIR) Post #B2zvwUGbqXpQMVdegy by bajax@baj.ax
2026-02-05T03:03:53.072923Z
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@f0x @irie salt is a mineral.
(DIR) Post #B2zw0hIPLZLfvfUHEO by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T03:04:37.734942Z
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@bajax @irie yes, catman, glad you can hear me from up there.
(DIR) Post #B2zw3VczBXCGbsSASm by irie@detroitriotcity.com
2026-02-05T03:05:09.807099Z
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@f0x is that so. I'm looking forward to your presentation where you prove such a claim.
(DIR) Post #B2zw6CPz3x1btuedsm by bajax@baj.ax
2026-02-05T03:05:38.328783Z
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@f0x @irie I can rotate my ears up to 270 degrees
(DIR) Post #B2zw8KPAL4npFbHqvw by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T03:06:00.212197Z
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@irie if you believe in evolution then this is literally the start of all of it.
(DIR) Post #B2zwB7tzHTFbLI2PUe by irie@detroitriotcity.com
2026-02-05T03:06:32.157367Z
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@f0x thankfully I don't
(DIR) Post #B3001IeIrtzvavGtii by waff@eientei.org
2026-02-05T03:49:34.047589Z
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@bajax @irie @f0x erm acktchually its sodium chloride
(DIR) Post #B300XU6do53kOWsCMi by waff@eientei.org
2026-02-05T03:55:23.024747Z
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@f0x @irie >>it's not an assumed leap. Vibration made molecules work together via happenstance and laws of physics.
(DIR) Post #B301VpZj78A6M4Fka8 by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T04:06:16.004909Z
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@waff @irie a strawman, entirely. Have a wonderful night.
(DIR) Post #B303iEcI2KDJP1UiCe by Asklepian@abyss.cafe
2026-02-05T04:18:49.213Z
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@f0x@dsmc.space the kind you are looking for is the autocorrect on your keyboardThe gpt types that are widespread are never going to be capable of that due to physical constraints Back before the boom when I was still working in the industry I made an on device one that actually “learned” and still have it around in my archives but it was impossible to deploy the same way modern ai is deployed since the model needs to be personalised to the individual instead of just fed a list of contextIt was also barely capable of stringing together coherent English sentences since it was meant for languages that use multiple bytes per character so the tokeniser had a stroke when encountering most English text lol
(DIR) Post #B303iFxF3uZFYIIxV2 by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T04:30:54.318906Z
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@Asklepian physical constraints was the same reason we couldn't have personal computers and that changed drastically.
(DIR) Post #B303lKuL6QjbmbPpzc by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T04:31:29.416492Z
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@Asklepian now its possible to have like 40 coin pocket sized computers.
(DIR) Post #B3043YvTin4WTMdheS by Asklepian@abyss.cafe
2026-02-05T04:33:20.288Z
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@f0x@dsmc.space I’m talking about the physical constraints of your phone doesn’t have 90gb ram
(DIR) Post #B3043Zcj7zfOdUsF3w by f0x@dsmc.space
2026-02-05T04:34:46.042611Z
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@Asklepian again, for now.
(DIR) Post #B30sOnuUCZh2jZUuUy by waff@eientei.org
2026-02-05T13:58:53.233527Z
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@f0x @irie >> a strawman, entirely. Have a wonderful night.