Post B2oG2Iu8fgBE2uezGi by maxleibman@beige.party
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(DIR) Post #B2nMTHxsg68fW8hWjo by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T01:29:50Z
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Trinket.io is shutting down. I'm kind of bummed. It doesn't seem possible to spin up your own version on a local server so I need to decide what to do for fifth grade python programming by the end of the summer. The head of IT put me on to trinket... I didn't like that it was an IDE in a browser. But It was clean. Please don't tell me "just install linux on 300 chromebooks." That would be nice, but it's not in my control. I could ask IT to add apps to the the chromebooks however.
(DIR) Post #B2nMmUvwgVGJF1xIZc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T01:33:16Z
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@ben Yup bad.
(DIR) Post #B2nNCJ45R0Sxxc4OOm by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T01:37:55Z
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@glitzersachen If they get it out by June I could try to set it up over the summer for next fall. But it takes time to make these things. At least IT is now more on my side about not depending on webapps as much. I think they just thought I was being a anti-corporate hippie. Which I WAS. However. I'm also right.
(DIR) Post #B2nNSaj5XPnHMy0stM by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T01:40:53Z
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@alter_kaker What I could use is an app, that is in the "google play store" that you can buy, or is free... with no ads (non-negotiable about the ads, this is for school)That was kind of an all in one python compiler and text editor. On mac, python is in the command line and I use "thony" or other IDEs to work with it (or terminal if I want to scare the children)But what do you do on a got dang chromebook?I don't need to run big programs. Just turtle and scripts.
(DIR) Post #B2nNYkPoQXLv9nvssi by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T01:42:01Z
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@alter_kaker I made the seniors in advance CS use ONLY terminal for a whole week and got a "thank you" letter from one at college. "everyone thinks I'm a hacker this is amazing"Yes, it is that easy I suppose.
(DIR) Post #B2nNjq1ptgyHkg0S1o by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T01:44:02Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou @alter_kaker Can it read and write to text files in the same folder as the code?Nothing we do is intensive, but I like to show them how to deal with files.
(DIR) Post #B2nNsvENvMXAUdCvFg by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T01:45:38Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou If I worked for IT and was an linux expert I would do this. But as it stands I'm not dealing with their stuff and can't demand they learn a whole new thing and do a bunch of work. I just walk in and expect all t he computers to work. And they do this very well.
(DIR) Post #B2nNuZ2XOvfEFQRtwm by cmthiede@social.vivaldi.net
2026-01-30T01:45:56Z
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@futurebird @alter_kaker no clue what your after, other than that Chromebook environments have a ton of apps to search throughhttps://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/python-playground/jfippgilnpggpddhmfjaaecadnfhcopa
(DIR) Post #B2nNvXxKuskTAxU6oC by stevenaleach@sigmoid.social
2026-01-30T01:46:06Z
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@futurebird @alter_kaker I know you don't like the browser based UI, but I'd recommend JupyterLab -- Honestly, It's become my default working environment for Python for a long time, implementing and testing stuff bit by bit in notebooks even if they'll eventually be stand-alone scripts: https://www.codecademy.com/article/jupyter-notebook-chromebook
(DIR) Post #B2nO0kNMAStB8u8R4S by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T01:47:05Z
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@stevenaleach @alter_kaker JupyterLab is OK but it's much more busy and confusing than trinkey.io which was perfect for fifth graders *without* limiting them much if they wanted to try to do some real coding. It's a fine line.
(DIR) Post #B2nOGMjTq9kqRpvlwm by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T01:49:54Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou apple laptops are pretty easy to do command line stuff on even with all of the security software. I'm very happy with the macbooks in that way.
(DIR) Post #B2nOL2OEtv4onwDu6K by SeanPLynch@mastodon.social
2026-01-30T01:50:42Z
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@futurebird @alter_kaker There are websites that let you execute python online. Perhaps there's on that is specialized for students in a classroom.This one has ads so you may not want it:https://www.online-python.com/
(DIR) Post #B2nOLumYficDV015VI by lewislacook@mastodon.sdf.org
2026-01-30T01:50:46Z
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@futurebird I used to be into cloud IDEs. Portable, etc. But these days I’m a vim boy.
(DIR) Post #B2nOPuHGUSwP5lHb9s by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T01:51:38Z
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@SeanPLynch @alter_kaker I'm trying to get away from browser apps because they can change or be shut down at any moment. Though we may end up just hoping to another service like this.
(DIR) Post #B2nOdJMeWs14f7C8Qa by kirakira@furry.engineer
2026-01-30T01:53:59Z
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@futurebird @alter_kaker opened a terminal to check something out on the laptop of one of my club's linux newbies and he went "you're hacking!!!!!!"
(DIR) Post #B2nOsE9WBm82qFACsS by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T01:56:45Z
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@kirakira @alter_kaker One of my sixth grade student **tattled on me** to the IT head because "she was hacking" (using terminal)He just rolled around laughing for a full min.
(DIR) Post #B2nP2Dyzfu6TD90YYC by fraggle@social.coop
2026-01-30T01:58:30Z
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@futurebird @alter_kaker I hope you showed them https://hackertyper.net/
(DIR) Post #B2nPHh33tMB7hTHqXA by SeanPLynch@mastodon.social
2026-01-30T02:01:19Z
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@futurebird @alter_kaker Codidad can be run on your own server and students can go to a url and they'll get a python ide. But there's no command line. I'll ask my son the HS math teacher if he knows of anything.
(DIR) Post #B2nPT9SSbcMezqd9hA by yonkeltron@jawns.club
2026-01-30T02:03:23Z
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@futurebird would a teaching-specific language with a web IDE work? Something like Pyret?https://pyret.org
(DIR) Post #B2nPqXYHBwa6NmVH4S by moira@mastodon.murkworks.net
2026-01-30T02:07:37Z
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@futurebird YAAAAS <3
(DIR) Post #B2nQpMFto1Xl0nuLTM by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T02:18:35Z
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@b Replit was so delightful and fun and it went the way of all apps in #Doctorow speed run. There is no way to use it now without dealing with nonsense. Not even if you pay. Very sad. I hate webaps.
(DIR) Post #B2nQuSWpuSqxuqGKkC by Sharksonaplane@mastodon.sandwich.net
2026-01-30T02:19:31Z
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@futurebird lmao reminds me of 8th grade Keyboarding class. I finished my exercises and dropped into DOS bc I was bored. I didn't know how to do anything dangerous there, just basic navigation and dir lists and such, but that was enough to get some of the other kids asking if I was a hacker! 😂
(DIR) Post #B2nRHDU80Y4vv2qav2 by Moosader@mastodon.gamedev.place
2026-01-30T02:23:37Z
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@futurebird I don't know how much freedom you have but I taught a one week course on just general coding but we used python, and i have resources here:https://moosadee.gitlab.io/courses/camp_creative_coding/index.htmlWe did some various web tools.
(DIR) Post #B2nSlA1BYtMToC9Tns by dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org
2026-01-30T02:40:13Z
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@futurebirdhttps://pyscript.net/https://www.online-python.com/Search python in browser and try some more... there are kinds too many options.another option would be to set up jupyterlab on a server and let the kids work with jupyter notebooks.
(DIR) Post #B2nT2CNM38YG2ke5y4 by dusk@todon.eu
2026-01-30T02:43:16Z
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@futurebird That is a bummer!Perhaps one of these could help?https://help.pickcode.io/docs/transition-from-trinket/Google Colab (Totally get it if if you'd like to avoid Google)https://www.kaggle.com/docs/notebooks
(DIR) Post #B2nT4oJ1zrLoGFrvii by schuemaa@ecoevo.social
2026-01-30T02:43:47Z
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@futurebird even if a solution in the browser is not ideal, I wanted to mention https://posit.cloud/Maybe there are even ways to install positron on Chromebooks, but I don't know how easy that is.
(DIR) Post #B2nT86Ygah5PjslJRY by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-01-30T02:44:26Z
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@dlakelan I guess my original post is kind of unclear. What I'm trying to get away from are web apps. That's what I mean by "I didn't like that it was an IDE in a browser."Though we may land on something like this if I can't find a better alternative.
(DIR) Post #B2nUicCYWIeQG1Nsx6 by mavu@mastodon.social
2026-01-30T03:02:11Z
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@futurebird @alter_kaker i was once called "hacker" because i touch type reasonably fast.The bar **is** pretty low..
(DIR) Post #B2nWjNDju6bDzcQYBU by ginoputrino@mastodon.social
2026-01-30T03:24:45Z
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@futurebird @alter_kaker Pydroid 3 sounds like it might be what you are after.Free version has ads, but you can purchase a subscription which removes that. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.iiec.pydroid3
(DIR) Post #B2nYCcYE5JHFtKWI0O by kevlopezobrien@mastodon.online
2026-01-30T03:41:14Z
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@futurebird At least Trinket is releasing their source code (not sure when). Not sure what level of infrastructure would be needed to make it work for you. Maybe someone will carry the torch in their stead? The Trinket folks mentioned Pickcode. Maybe they can provide what you need for your students? Or maybe something like https://scratch.mit.edu/ could be useful since it's fully free. I'm having trouble finding locally installed apps that teach in a gamified way but I'll look a bit more later.
(DIR) Post #B2nabmnZK0Y8oyp7rc by dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org
2026-01-30T04:08:08Z
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@futurebird I thought you wanted something you can "spin up on your local server". That would be JupyterHub for example. you could have even like a dell desktop machine in your classroom as the Jupyter Hub server, then everyone gets their own connection to a separate Jupyter Notebook, and they can write text and run code inline in the notebook.
(DIR) Post #B2nekTE3rTYsXZbzZg by grant_h@mastodon.social
2026-01-30T04:54:34Z
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@futurebird @alter_kaker runestone.academy uses skulpt.You could either use one of their courses (not gr5 level though), or possibly locally host skulpt or some other jython?
(DIR) Post #B2ngbWXAOO9E6QPTA8 by DrDatta@datasci.social
2026-01-30T05:15:14Z
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@futurebird @dlakelan I don't know if Marimo notebooks might help with your usecase. They are Python files. They can be run in a web browser, but don't have to be.https://marimo.io/for-educators
(DIR) Post #B2ngpQ3XH2dC49AyeW by DrDatta@datasci.social
2026-01-30T05:17:51Z
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@futurebird Marimo works with uv under the hood. https://docs.astral.sh/uv/guides/install-python/
(DIR) Post #B2nigdhDOJcHfhg1hI by dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org
2026-01-30T05:38:40Z
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@futurebirdhttps://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/9145439?hl=enmost modern Chromebooks can have a Debian environment set up with a small number of menu clicks. from there you could install Python and emacs or maybe vscodium. likely your IT dept will need to enable the developer options on your kids machines which they may not want to do. the Debian system is fully sandboxed and can't harm the chrome base OS.
(DIR) Post #B2o2AkUea6cWZOs8lE by david_chisnall@infosec.exchange
2026-01-30T09:17:04Z
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@futurebird @alter_kaker Would a hosted Jupyter instance work? It lets you write Python in a browser, run individual snippets, and see the output, and pass state from one snippet to the next.DataCamp[1] has a nice hosted version that provides databases and things. Apparently if you get in contact with DataCamp Donates they offer free subscriptions to schools. [1] Disclaimer: my partner works for them.
(DIR) Post #B2oG2Iu8fgBE2uezGi by maxleibman@beige.party
2026-01-30T11:52:23Z
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@futurebird @alter_kaker ChromeOS has a Linux command line and Python (or did, last time I used it, circa 2023). Is that disabled on the school machines?
(DIR) Post #B2oGIuBloghIJZp66y by tkinias@hcommons.social
2026-01-30T11:55:23Z
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@futurebird every so often my students will see me doing something in the terminal and be amazed—and it’s usually something very hackery like changing directory and opening a PDF@kirakira @alter_kaker