Post B2eunCg1hF0MvZNV2m by waitworry@sakurajima.moe
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 (DIR) Post #B2eW2I1BcdYMz0N9JQ by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2026-01-25T10:16:05Z
       
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       If you aren't saying "Abolish Ice" it makes it seem like maybe they aren't just lying all the time about the people they are killing. What other response is possible? It's supposed to be "immigration enforcement" but they just kill people and lie about why they did it. That can't be "retrained."You already know body-cameras won't do anything. When we do have video they just ignore it and say our eyes are the liars not their murderous tongues. Abolish Ice Now. Abolish it Yesterday.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2eW2JFl1wnqoUCIfA by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2026-01-25T10:17:14Z
       
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       Go back in time, and never make up a thing called "ICE" in the first place. We have a way to do "immigration enforcement" its a weird new idea and it's bad.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2eW2KP0l1ncNTXCj2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2026-01-25T10:26:56Z
       
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       There are people, like me, who said ICE was a bad idea from the start. Who said "abolish ICE" ten years ago because we looked at what it was, how it was designed and we KNEW this is where is was going. And we were called unreasonable, crazy. "The American people have a lot of respect for law enforcement your words won't poll well."Part of the source of that respect is how leaders treat them as if they are untouchable. Who has taught "the American people" this? It's ya'll.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2eW2KxOhBIy67cfK4 by sbourne@mastodon.social
       2026-01-25T13:09:22Z
       
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       @futurebird They took advantage of the rampant fear after 9/11. I knew they would, and then they did and contacting my senators and Representative apparently was not enough to stop it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2eWJv3niY5Ozd0AdM by kevinrns@mstdn.social
       2026-01-25T10:28:32Z
       
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       @futurebird Schumer has said they're willing to not advance the funding Bill - so the question to ask is " unless what "
       
 (DIR) Post #B2eXL3q0fUHMSZewAy by yacc143@mastodon.social
       2026-01-25T18:26:49Z
       
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       @futurebirdDon't take it wrong. But especially US law enforcement has been rapidly militarizing in the past 2 decades. That's not a good thing. And special respect for law enforcement is not a good thing either.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2eZWHc3zckWHBcBQe by Klara@drupal.community
       2026-01-25T10:42:22Z
       
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       @futurebird 10 years ago? 2016 is that long ago already? I thought it would happen in his first term already.And the damn Dem years with too many (money) strings attatched and doing nothing much ...
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ea6ClzSsvzgsO3aS by lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
       2026-01-25T10:41:09Z
       
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       @futurebird Indeed, Ice is a slippery slope.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ecA2c7NWWnFUj5bU by GoblinQuester@dice.camp
       2026-01-25T10:31:25Z
       
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       @futurebird Looking from the outside (and I don't think I'm prophetic, just cynical and pessimistic, a gen X at heart) I said back then, that looks like someone is building their version of SA.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ecTvK0CTfEQMjX3A by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2026-01-25T11:03:38Z
       
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       @WuMargaret Got called "unamerican" over and over because I didn't like that one. "Why do you want the terrorists to win?"I am asking ya'll the same damn question.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2ee0DhBWPnadAXaoS by detritus@todon.eu
       2026-01-25T14:46:35Z
       
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       @futurebird cultural hegemony
       
 (DIR) Post #B2eerfOJHTozsJCJUW by johnzajac@dice.camp
       2026-01-25T14:58:05Z
       
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       @futurebird At a certain point, you have to conclude that the political class knew what ICE was when they made it, or are comprised of the most pure, innocent naifs in the whole of Christendom. That Democrats are fools who thought "don't worry we'll always be in control of this extrajudicial paramilitary force with its own court system" is irrelevant. They obviously think they can use ICE in the future. What GOP accelerations have Dems pulled back on rather than capitalize on, but quietly?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2egeQrqAUh6ySpMOm by martintheg@aus.social
       2026-01-25T11:13:04Z
       
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       @futurebird “Have a lot of respect for police”? The US has literally thousands of different police forces. You even have one for parks. Parks!  Policing is part of the US like sweat from your pores. In Australia we only have about 8 forces nationwide. We hate all of them. They are just as ineffective and violent as yours. We can focus our displeasure at their incompetence far easier as it is easy to target. This multitude of cops makes it impossible to break free unless some of them help. Good luck USA, you’ve had a good innings.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2erRyxrBTD8SIuK5Q by yacc143@mastodon.social
       2026-01-25T23:04:32Z
       
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       @futurebirdActually law enforcement officers being "untouchable" is a feature of the system but especially the US system that years everything as a money damage. So besides the thing that LEO are part of the criminal justice system (which is true everywhere) which tends to make a bit immune in practice, in the USA the politicians are sorely tempted to give them legally immunity and special status to avoid paying huge damages to the victims when their LEO fuck up.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2eunCg1hF0MvZNV2m by waitworry@sakurajima.moe
       2026-01-25T10:21:17Z
       
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       @futurebird the guy who killed renee good got out his phone to film it for us so clearly a lack of photo evidence was not the problem there