Post B2ZDEd84N57vhDPvqS by danyarelkhodari@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #B2Xxhb9uyypVYi74xU by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T15:10:58Z
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Hey, guess what?I just saw the first Small Web site (the Kitten Chat example¹ from Kitten²) running at a Web Number³:https://91.98.66.193/Come say hi (I don’t know how long I’ll keep it on for, will update this when I turn it off.)🥳PS. This is only in the ip-address-support of Kitten right now and should be considered experimental.¹ https://codeberg.org/kitten/app/src/branch/main/examples/kitten-chat² https://kitten.small-web.org³ https://ar.al/2025/06/25/web-numbers/#SmallWeb #WebNumbers #SmallTech #peerToPeerWeb #Kitten
(DIR) Post #B2Xxst4ohmg2Jb6tBw by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T15:13:02Z
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PS. Just discovered a bug in Mastodon where links to Web Numbers are not detected as hyperlinks.(You’ll have to copy and paste that URL into your browser to joiun the chat.)
(DIR) Post #B2XyDKw8pdA2VsnriC by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T15:16:39Z
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PPS. Just started the Persisted Kitten Chat example instead so the chat log will be preserved :)
(DIR) Post #B2XytS88TdAKzBUoPA by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T15:24:21Z
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So we’re just having a little chat :)
(DIR) Post #B2XzQy4QkEufbRkC80 by Doomscroll@zirk.us
2026-01-22T15:30:16Z
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@aral Kitten is intriguing. Small systems look naive right up until they don’t.
(DIR) Post #B2XztLhwSIgZ1Ml5QO by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T15:35:20Z
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And that’s it folks, I’m going to turn this off in a few minutes so I can get back to coding :)Thank you all for dropping by :)💕
(DIR) Post #B2Xzzbeq4CkKE6I5SK by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T15:35:46Z
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Alt text (too long for Mastodon’s arbitrary alt-text character count limit):Screenshot of Kitten’s Persisted Kitten Chat running at https://91.98.66.193Persisted Kitten ChatStatus: OnlineAral Right, I just started the Persisted Kitten Chat example instead so the chat log will be preserved :)FiXatoMatt meowAral Hey FiXato, Matt, welcome :)Aral So this is how I see folks running their own Small Web sites in the future, at Web Numbers (IP addresses, really, but less scary) :)Max Hello!Aral (Only made possible as of this month with Let's Encrypt rolling out support for TLS certs at IP addresses.)Hellie Hiya!Aral Hey, Max, Hellie, how goes? oliof HelloHellie doing alright, interesting app!Aral Of course, this is an example of an old-school centralised site where we're all chatting on the same server but, if you're interested, check out the end-to-end-encrypted Kitten Chat example in the repository for a peer-to-peer version :)Aral Thanks, Hellie, the really interesting bit is that we're meeting at an IP address over https :)Aral Oops, I meant Web Number ;)The st a s much stin than i i i we has mahy may last a ta chat is really convenient, nothing is ever stored on any servers.Gabriel I find it cool that Let's Encrypt supports certificates for ip addressesFiXato if only routers and other hardware with built-in web control panels would come with LE certs...Elenoire Ferruzzi Ciao, idk what im doing here but I'm glad I can tho woe2you Oh hey, this is neatAral Hey Max, yes, it's very cool (Delta Chat) although I mostly use SignalAral Hey Talon, welcome :) And yeah, this is a centralised example but imagine you're at your own Web Number and I'm at mine and we can still do this (and more)... that's the Small Web (peer-to-peer Web)Hellooo :)woe2you Seeing the padlock next to an IP is wacky. I'm sure I'll get used to it in time.Aral @Gabriel, yeah, they only just started; I've been waiting for it eagerly so I could implement support in Auto Encrypt and thus Kitten so I can remove DNS from the equation for the Small Web Aral @FiXato No reason they couldn't... apart from, y'know, the mainstream is a bit shitAral Hey Elenoire, lovely you could make it :)Aral @woe2you Thank you :)Aral Hey @nemo:)nemoAral @woe2you Well, you're one of the first people to see it so that's to be expected :)Aral Right, folks, I should get back to coding so i can release this (the version of Kitten with Web Numbers support) as soon as possible. I want to launch the Small Web to a wider audience this year and there's still lots of work to do beyond Kitten :)Aral Thank you all for popping in and saying hi :)Aral 💕
(DIR) Post #B2Y0TNE4HwC29dxm1A by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T15:42:01Z
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Right, the server’s off now.Going to get back to coding now :)
(DIR) Post #B2Y0jvz0pVNKaLokdM by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T15:45:02Z
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@kkarhan The peer-to-peer version (not the one I just demoed) is peer to peer Web.And, you won’t be installing the Kitten Chat example, folks will be running their own personal web sites that can talk to one another.And setting up a server is ~10 seconds.(Or you can run one on your favourite single-board computer at home, if you like.)
(DIR) Post #B2Y0tlTujGx0uXxWqm by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T15:45:46Z
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@alex You’re welcome :) Lovely chatting to you + please do and let me know how it goes :)💕
(DIR) Post #B2Y12uG1TBjyjeowPw by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T15:46:03Z
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@Doomscroll 💕
(DIR) Post #B2Y1UKGUskELDQ7KAy by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T15:53:12Z
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@FiXato @Mastodon Yep :) Just the IP address itself is detected but it’s not if you precede it with the https:// protocol.
(DIR) Post #B2YDt0Advd65aDuadk by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2026-01-22T18:12:16Z
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Huh… just noticed something interesting that looks like it’s going to be another advantage to Web Numbers¹… look at these Kitten² screenshots and tell me if you can spot something unexpected.Hint: it’s what’s missing.There are no 404 errors for common hack attempts trying to exploit WordPress vulnerabilities, etc. In fact, it’s entirely quiet. Because those folks watch DNS :)¹ https://ar.al/2025/06/25/web-numbers/² https://kitten.small-web.org/#WebNumbers #SmallWeb #peerToPeerWeb #personalWeb #Kitten #SmallTech
(DIR) Post #B2ZDEd84N57vhDPvqS by danyarelkhodari@mastodon.social
2026-01-23T05:39:35Z
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@aral Hello Mr. Aral, I hope you are well. I want to tell you that no one cares about me, no one is donating. I have reached the depths of despair. Please donate to me and tell the other donors that I am in very bad shape.