Post B2RGSFMWHJfidVgIpU by James_Dixon@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #B2QL1vx6P8TNmiYRm4 by sun@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T22:55:23.654471Z
       
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       I remember when people used to say that the Civil War resolved this forever.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Quvi12csEkuUHKWO by scathach@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-18T23:59:30.721096Z
       
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       @caekislove @mothersmurfer @sun t. Mexican
       
 (DIR) Post #B2QuvivPFJK7jIeLNQ by shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev
       2026-01-19T04:32:47.684Z
       
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       @scathach@stereophonic.space @caekislove@caekis.love @mothersmurfer@poa.st @sun@shitposter.world more like t. czech iykyk
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Qv5frVULob7sZRSa by scathach@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-18T23:20:22.148996Z
       
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       @sun This is what happens when you let slave aristocrat wannabes and illiterate Ulster Scots have equal suffrage in your enlightened republic of yeoman farmersThe federal government was a mistake
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Qv5gpPtbjm7gbHqC by sun@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:32:39.708468Z
       
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       @scathach it absolutely was and it feels like we're getting closer to everyone admitting it, they just won't get rid of it because if they  control it they like the power
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Qv5hkqS5fsznT9M0 by scathach@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-18T23:35:29.556076Z
       
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       @sun My turbo lib father recently said he came around to the idea that the Civil War was primarily about states rights vs federal power
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Qv5iWha9xJODrMwq by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2026-01-18T23:36:13.437996Z
       
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       @scathach @sun i mean. it was. the north couldn't get the votes to make the south do shit and decided to have a war about it. the south was just like "you won't follow the fucking rules we'll take our ball and go home."
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Qv5jDb0gGbXFvco4 by sun@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:38:58.459985Z
       
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       @icedquinn @scathach it's so simple I don't know how people don't understand it. it didn't become a war until the south left because slavery was debatable but leaving wasn't.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Qv5juURCZtgHzsfI by lolitechengineer@loli.church
       2026-01-18T23:44:36.132Z
       
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       @sun@shitposter.world @icedquinn@blob.cat @scathach@stereophonic.space because saying slavery bad makes people feel good but saying independence bad makes people feel bad
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Qv5lPiqZ9gLRcKzA by piggo@piggo.space
       2026-01-18T23:47:59.635455Z
       
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       @lolitechengineer @icedquinn @scathach @sun I never heard it wasn't actually about slavery. The propaganda is very strong
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Qv5mCHw00Gm4L7gW by Ree@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:55:51.356037Z
       
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       @piggo @icedquinn @lolitechengineer @sun @scathach you know what they say winners get to write the history so basically the propaganda.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2QwcDfTQzHtC61bYO by sun@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:36:37.346891Z
       
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       @scathach the idea of minnesota deploying national guard against the federal government is actually funny if you're not historically illiterate
       
 (DIR) Post #B2QyBsQG09tHgKTRyq by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2026-01-19T03:57:59.739Z
       
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       Centralised government in general is a mistake.Over here, make a mean tweet and the Starm Troopers come knocking at your door.@scathach@stereophonic.space @sun@shitposter.world
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R2QTZ36boCkInrYO by Ree@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:39:18.371664Z
       
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       @scathach @sun I thought it was about slavery
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R2QV8tEq4Xdka03c by scathach@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-18T23:41:13.305696Z
       
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       @Ree @sun The catalyzing issue was slavery and in hindsight that's what it feels like but at the time the shooting started because the feds couldn't get their (admittedly ethical and noble) way legally
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R2QW3xodj4UlHa1A by sun@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:44:04.919587Z
       
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       @scathach @Ree true, just exit is the absolute right of actually-free people. it's too bad the civil war wasn't actually over slavery and the status of very not-free people. but it was about white people leaving, not black slaves with no freedom.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R4AAELQ9bU3dT6mW by sun@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:07:58.728205Z
       
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       @aetios The last time this happened the federal government survived it by killing 100,000 people.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R4ABtVEc7XDZjUZc by Ree@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:09:22.017792Z
       
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       @sun @aetios so what happened
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R6OuHzAjfqrvKTiK by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2026-01-18T23:35:03.280906Z
       
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       @sun @scathach nobody admits their empire is dying, they just set up ministries of truth and manage the decline.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R6Vr91GJav8vRu4m by genmaicha@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-18T23:24:05.324209Z
       
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       @scathach @sun would you say Andrew Jackson ruined the country then?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R6VsHZ221WfiSF28 by scathach@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-18T23:25:31.879190Z
       
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       @genmaicha @sun The New English utopian project was somewhat doomed from the beginning, but Jackson made a lot of the rot more visible
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R6XKI2NxsXpFMtGa by Ree@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:34:02.136355Z
       
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       @sun @scathach I'm waiting for everything to fall apart. Because I know things will get worse
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R6wYKbJjEMc6b1Oq by scathach@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-18T23:38:44.274533Z
       
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       @icedquinn @sun Best possible outcome of that would've been for the south to secede peacefully then go the way of Haiti
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R75mHAqAMUT7OMTI by jeremiah@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:41:45.212046Z
       
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       @sun i wouldn't worry about it. If they're there to protect property, we saw how badly they managed that in the St. Floyd era. We can assume they do everything else as poorly, and of course, they can be commandeered by the federal government to stand around and fail.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R79lo0X0OAATeZRQ by Ree@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:42:27.124571Z
       
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       @scathach @sun Google says something about economy also.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R7E1todZtnEwOw9A by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2026-01-18T23:39:47.987571Z
       
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       @sun @scathach because the slavery wedge issue was very effective cover and the north won, so the north teaches that it never did anything wrong and there was nothing to the entire situation outside of this convenient wedge issue that makes us saviors."It says right here the good guys won every war. What are the odds!" -Norm MacDonald
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R7EXaQpBPJW5ZuNM by anemone@ebiverse.social
       2026-01-18T23:40:46.725Z
       
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       @scathach@stereophonic.space @sun@shitposter.world the federal govt pussying out and not comitting to reconstruction was a mistake
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R7P1dlwKIXcg8kpE by piggo@piggo.space
       2026-01-18T23:43:28.988436Z
       
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       @sun just today I was thinking of this, whether the good guys would wear tape armbands like in the Ukraine war so they wouldn't shoot their own
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R7Z4NKcuK506EvC4 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2026-01-18T23:40:24.374778Z
       
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       @scathach @sun they basically did secede peacefully, the north was outraged by this and attacked. iirc
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R7Z5Jp7R6vvVbdMe by Leyonhjelm@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:49:24.003452Z
       
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       @icedquinn Yep. That was basically the whole of it. Anything else was written by the victors @sun @scathach
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R7ZfLVAfqNf8fTyi by mothersmurfer@poa.st
       2026-01-18T23:43:59.635227Z
       
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       @caekislove @sun @scathach i don't know what the definition of "yankee" is anymore.  could you just shoot browns?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R7e1CzpNTAcwlVCq by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2026-01-18T23:45:48.522431Z
       
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       @sun @Ree @scathach they get really angry when you point to historical docs that the north was apathetic at best to black americans. like anything else the US government does, they only care about compliance. civil rights are just an epiphenomenon.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R7e21KoDjf94JhfU by Ree@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:48:23.348067Z
       
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       @icedquinn @sun @scathach mean look at nowadays we're slaves to corporations and the government. I don't even know what freedom is anymore. I guess living in a area where people can't mess with you?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R7hzzkHYdK1NSuLQ by Leyonhjelm@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:48:27.323524Z
       
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       @Ree Only on the surface. And even then it’s not really@scathach @sun
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R7i1VgeHmGijPvlo by Ree@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:49:51.888761Z
       
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       @Leyonhjelm @scathach @sun it's very hard to remember something I learned 20 years ago but I live in the north. So that's what I was told
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R8Fkvsn2AR9UksPA by awl@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:53:06.022092Z
       
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       @sun talk about easy to spot. We’ll see if they bleed out of Minneapolis.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R8ISdxFFeJIXevmi by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2026-01-18T23:42:54.802319Z
       
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       @scathach @Ree @sun the ethical and noble north, who participated in ripping off alaskans and shot coal miners for protesting.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R8ZEg2QPGWuAdHQ8 by lolitechengineer@loli.church
       2026-01-18T23:42:47.411Z
       
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       @sun@shitposter.world i know it's an unpopular opinion on fedi, especially in the poa.st sphere of influence, but Minnesota and Tim Walz are 100% in the right on this one.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R8kEKg2vPZ1PsqoK by Paultron@shin.mugicha.club
       2026-01-18T23:59:12.264360Z
       
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       i think that's the definition for yanqui, not yankee
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R8kuUjHwPLmkuTJI by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2026-01-18T23:56:54.333444Z
       
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       @Ree @lolitechengineer @piggo @sun @scathach there's some debate how long slavery would have held up in the south, too, since the industrial revolution sort of makes classical slavery not very viable. and its not like everyone in texas loved it to begin with
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R8kva5FWHj9eQGIK by Ree@shitposter.world
       2026-01-18T23:59:06.476396Z
       
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       @icedquinn @lolitechengineer @piggo @sun @scathach if it was me I would give the slaves jobs,read and write and even pay them and a place to stay when slavery wasn't do able
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R8vZ9eyBJCmp8Tjs by scathach@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-18T23:58:48.076608Z
       
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       @icedquinn @lolitechengineer @piggo @Ree @sun Probably not veryIncidentally, there was also talk among the wannabe Spartan class of also enslaving poor whites from Appalachia which is why West Virginia exists now
       
 (DIR) Post #B2R93uSfdUhxBV0SeG by lolitechengineer@loli.church
       2026-01-18T23:51:29.499Z
       
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       @piggo@piggo.space @icedquinn@blob.cat @scathach@stereophonic.space @sun@shitposter.world the south left because of slavery, so the blame is assigned to the south for the civil war, but it was the north that decided that reintegration was required and conquest was the means by which to do it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2RGSFMWHJfidVgIpU by James_Dixon@poa.st
       2026-01-19T01:26:43.430840Z
       
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       @caekislove @mothersmurfer @sun @scathach > Anyone north of WacoOoohhh.  Feel the burn, Dallas/Fort Worth.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-wGSp8TwFE
       
 (DIR) Post #B2SU72Q8nD4Svx7G9w by Leyonhjelm@detroitriotcity.com
       2026-01-18T23:45:02.575094Z
       
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       @sun I remember that. And then people decided the first amendment included assault and property damage, with a dash of obstruction of traffic and provoking law enforcement officers. It’s all been downhill from there.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TeFEaYd5wzgkUlxA by branman65@poa.st
       2026-01-20T13:14:49.512500Z
       
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       @scathach @sun Shut up yankee
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TjVQ2SKHQ3bW56au by scathach@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-20T14:13:44.415048Z
       
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       @branman65 @sun Ethnically I'm actually a southerner, don't have even a drop of Yankee blood
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TqSAatzVD8Vxai0W by nerthos@shitposter.world
       2026-01-20T15:31:37.161557Z
       
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       @scathach @sun @genmaicha Shit like this has been happening in England since long before the discovery of America and it will keep happening to her heirs as long as the old blood and culture survives in them. It's the reason there has been like 3 or 4 new englands over the centuries. The US can civil war itself as many times as it wants, and will still end up in the same place as long as it remains English, just like France/China can revolution itself as many times as it wants and end up in the same place as long as it remains French/Chinese.Some may say to this "you just hate the english because your nation fought 3 wars against them and your ancestors in the old world several times as many" but I can point to Canada, Australia, NZ and any other core English nation and the same patterns are there too. It's inherently a robber baron/pirate civilization, and unlike some other robber civilizations (like vikings) it loves to aim inwards.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Tr07oqoa7fknJ4Uq by nerthos@shitposter.world
       2026-01-20T15:37:45.330917Z
       
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       @icedquinn @Ree @sun @scathach Paraphrasing Lincoln, whose policies I don't generally like but I respect as being genuinely good at doing his job (presiding the union), "I would have the union and no slavery, and I would have the union and slavery, but I will not have no union"He was an evil shit about it but his job was "make this government survive this event" and he did it, even if he did it by mortgaging its future.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TrI9A4Yxnf84pI9Y by nerthos@shitposter.world
       2026-01-20T15:40:59.057658Z
       
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       @scathach @icedquinn @lolitechengineer @piggo @Ree @sun AFAIK enslaving whites was legal until some retard decided to have a black slave owner parade white slaves in a predominantly white country, and somehow the extremely moderate response was to outlaw that instead of the much more reasonable following your namesake on the nigger.I'm pretty sure during the colonial era penal slavery was a thing and they just sold slavery contracts for X years.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TrMKEdKkLEdDx5ii by genmaicha@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-18T23:43:03.329702Z
       
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       @sun @scathach no government remains good forever. ours worked relatively well for a time, but is now worsening irreversibly, falling victim to entropy.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TrMLc4D6gEuBvJsu by joey@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-19T00:41:25.365669Z
       
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       @genmaicha @sun @scathach > The traditional characterizations of the powers of the branches of American government are:>    The legislative branch is responsible for enacting the laws of the state and appropriating the money necessary to operate the government. >    The executive branch is responsible for implementing and administering the public policy enacted and funded by the legislative branch. >    The judicial branch is responsible for interpreting the constitution and laws and applying their interpretations to controversies brought before it.Separation of powers doesn't matter when the branches are stacked with partisan lackeys.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TrMU5QhovBBZislM by joey@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-19T00:43:19.087052Z
       
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       @genmaicha @scathach @sun Also why republics suck. If we ever become a republic I'm moving to Afghanistan.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TrN5YROv71OGa4cS by scathach@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-19T00:45:02.405304Z
       
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       @joey @genmaicha @sun US was founded as a republic and slowly morphed into a weird hybrid democratic republic party dictatorship thing
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TrarMwwFLtRvlxGy by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2026-01-19T02:36:49.111213Z
       
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       @sun >ICE decides to don hi-vis as well
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TrasJnPSQKORIwzo by nerthos@shitposter.world
       2026-01-20T15:44:23.295007Z
       
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       @hakui @sun If I were the ICE commander I would just get my top guys to sneak into their barracks in the night, steal all the visibility vests, give them to my guys to wear, and then once the protest starts yell "there they are! ICE! shoot them or they'll kill you like that poor woman!" and let the state fix itself in the ensuing firefight.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TroDHam939B5dMsS by nerthos@shitposter.world
       2026-01-20T15:46:48.821718Z
       
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       @hakui @sun
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Tt453hDieCG6GRVo by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2026-01-20T16:00:50.860185Z
       
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       @nerthos @sun you don't even have to steal them, just get a bunch from the hi-vis shop
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TtB1WGmF0BJEwKkS by nerthos@shitposter.world
       2026-01-20T16:02:08.536809Z
       
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       @hakui @sun But then they'd still have them and the uniform swapping tactic I learned from a documentary with the funny cartoon rabbit wouldn't work
       
 (DIR) Post #B2TtFGR3GK68jDWNd2 by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2026-01-20T16:02:46.416181Z
       
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       @nerthos @sun accuse them of doing the thing you're doing before they can do the same
       
 (DIR) Post #B2UVimQDDGCsaYd7GS by genmaicha@stereophonic.space
       2026-01-20T23:14:02.054621Z
       
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       @nerthos @sun @scathach >US can civil war itself as many times as it wants, and will still end up in the same place as long as it remains Englishmaybe there won't be another civil war after all
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Ui89FueY4G61fwGm by nerthos@shitposter.world
       2026-01-21T01:33:04.745844Z
       
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       @genmaicha @sun @scathach The USA loves to pretend they're a completely different thing to England while still joining every war on their side and upholding all their traditions and culture. Maybe you can't see it from the inside but it's obvious from the outside.