Post B2Q59vxMfqnSqdTD9M by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
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 (DIR) Post #B2Q59ubLiDame4A7CC by tsturm@famichiki.jp
       2026-01-18T12:45:39Z
       
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       Python in 2026:- New code doesn't work, misses dependency- Dependency can't be installed with old PIP- PIP can't update itself, since it is too old- Delete PIP, download PIP installer- PIP installer is too new for old Python- download old-style new PIP installer- install new PIP- install dependencyNow I'm sitting there wondering what the new code was supposed to solve. Forgot why I ever tried to change that thing.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Q59vxMfqnSqdTD9M by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2026-01-18T19:57:30Z
       
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       @tsturm Python is such a hot mess for those of us who are casual scripters that i just avoid all things python. Competing versions is incredibly stupid. PIPs existence is stupid.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2QGDyTyK7q1KtqqAq by tsturm@famichiki.jp
       2026-01-18T22:01:29Z
       
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       @tomjennings The versioning and dependency handling are fine for somebody who stays on top of the latest Python versions on a daily basis. But in my case I have this server that I VERY casually maintain on a yearly basis - things are always out of date when I touch that beast.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2QuBpWYNVzisM8p9c by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2026-01-19T00:24:57Z
       
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       @tsturm Yep. That seemed exactly the situation.