Post B2Lc5mWe7bK58YnihE by fea186c2a4678dbc437704eed2160846e8a781e5fb17056e9bb333840d5bdef2@mostr.pub
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(DIR) Post #B2LbbGw50VTSTY9JfE by 036533caa872376946d4e4fdea4c1a0441eda38ca2d9d9417bb36006cbaabf58@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T04:23:47.000Z
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Offline is going to be a symbol of the "rich". Those who can afford to be off devices. So many jobs (even blue collar) require interacting with smart phones for the day job. Interacting with banking, ordering food, paying for stuff. Having to pay inflation prices for experiences, travel, etc.
(DIR) Post #B2LbbI4ykuBe1RJwAq by dd664d5e4016433a8cd69f005ae1480804351789b59de5af06276de65633d319@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T06:30:02.000Z
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The original post is very autistic. 😂 As if people who use the Internet don't also spend time doing things offline. If anything, they tend to be more socially active IRL than the people who are offline. He should people more.Also, like, we all have jobs. That use computers. And the Internet. And cell phones.Reminds me of the insistance that all people on the planet should only eat beef steak and ride bicycles. Same mentality. Detached from normal human reality.
(DIR) Post #B2LbbJLg2J8bxW8mq8 by dd664d5e4016433a8cd69f005ae1480804351789b59de5af06276de65633d319@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T06:33:36.000Z
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Also, how in the world do you organize meetups without the Internet? Even the landlines are usually Internet lines, now.
(DIR) Post #B2LbbKCUrvOAbKqyAa by 036533caa872376946d4e4fdea4c1a0441eda38ca2d9d9417bb36006cbaabf58@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T16:06:53.000Z
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Also _my_ point. It's nearly impossible to communicate with the outside world without the internet in some form. Even life without a smartphone is physically difficult let alone socially difficult. I'm literally a walking, sometimes talking, edge case. I carry cash - stores don't have humans anymore. I don't carry a smartphone - restaurants only have QR code menus, or event's requiring tickets don't use physical tickets anymore. The local subway/train this year dropped all non-smartphone ticketing systems. They require a smartphone with internet, NFC, and GPS from what i've been told to ride the subway.
(DIR) Post #B2LbdcY1coz25E1ARM by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2026-01-16T16:07:55.641135Z
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@036533caa872376946d4e4fdea4c1a0441eda38ca2d9d9417bb36006cbaabf58 @dd664d5e4016433a8cd69f005ae1480804351789b59de5af06276de65633d319 > The local subway/train this year dropped all non-smartphone ticketing systems.where is this??
(DIR) Post #B2LbroS6A57h3g0rNQ by fea186c2a4678dbc437704eed2160846e8a781e5fb17056e9bb333840d5bdef2@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T06:43:40.000Z
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If you remove all the fluff, this is basically just talking about retirement, where one is financially free to do whatever they want with their time. It's just reframed here as an alarmist novel concept. It probably is true that fewer people will reach that definition of retirement in the coming years (at least in the US where most people are spending such that they will never be free).
(DIR) Post #B2LbrpZvyQz8YGgdEG by 036533caa872376946d4e4fdea4c1a0441eda38ca2d9d9417bb36006cbaabf58@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T16:10:10.000Z
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And just about every retired person I know (most don't retire till their 70s) spends a significant portion of their time on facebook. They do often socialize, mostly drive around town slowly and cause traffic backups though. Florida got too expensive so they can't afford to leave anymore XD Probably a poor area type of thing.
(DIR) Post #B2Lc0nJ9mjvk7F75Gq by fea186c2a4678dbc437704eed2160846e8a781e5fb17056e9bb333840d5bdef2@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T06:47:01.000Z
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I also question how important "online" is in the context of work. You're working for a set amount of time regardless of whether it's online or not. Free time, if you have any (if you don't, that's a separate issue) can be spent doing whatever you can afford offline. People aren't forced to spend leisure time online, are they?
(DIR) Post #B2Lc0obcxYIc8olLhQ by fea186c2a4678dbc437704eed2160846e8a781e5fb17056e9bb333840d5bdef2@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T06:55:07.000Z
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I say having no free time is a separate issue because it's independent of modernity. Almost all of us would've had the same problem in 1700 when they had no digital devices. In fact, most people probably had far less free time and every human on the planet was offline all the time. Without fiat debasement, most of us would have more free time over time due to advancements in technology and efficiency. I don't see how the issue changes simply by introducing a digital device. You either have a choice or you don't. Being stuck in a field picking corn isn't necessarily better than being stuck at a desk working on a computer. Both have pros and cons.
(DIR) Post #B2Lc4DKvT5JPi7ZUSe by dd664d5e4016433a8cd69f005ae1480804351789b59de5af06276de65633d319@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T06:56:42.000Z
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Well, no, but just try organizing anything involving other people without the Internet. I don't have WhatsApp and that's enough to throw a wrench in my plans. I regularly go someplace and no one else is there, and everyone else knew that it was canceled because it was posted in the chat.Even Mass times are posted online, now. Want to know which tournament is coming up, and whether you are on the roster? Has choir practice been moved to Thursday? Reserving a table at a restaurant or a room at a hotel? When does the park open and do you have a map for the hike? It's a snowday and classes are Teams?You'd have to basically withdraw from society, to be completely offline. I think they consider "don't use Facebook" to be "offline".
(DIR) Post #B2Lc4EY4xfQZTCjVbM by fea186c2a4678dbc437704eed2160846e8a781e5fb17056e9bb333840d5bdef2@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T07:02:34.000Z
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I just think it's a moot point because the actual issue isn't whether people can be offline or not. It's whether they will have leisure time and how much leisure time they'll have. Yes, fiat debasement necessarily robs people of time if their time is valued and/or saved in fiat. But if you have any leisure time, you can spend at least some portion of it offline if you really want to. You might miss a tournament or whatever. But you chose, and that's what really matters. If you have no leisure time, I don't see why it matters. You don't have a choice anyway.
(DIR) Post #B2Lc5l89JC8KoIKdsG by dd664d5e4016433a8cd69f005ae1480804351789b59de5af06276de65633d319@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T07:19:39.000Z
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The whole idea is bizarre.If I have leisure time and spend it reading an e-newspaper or an e-book, then that is low-class, but it's high-class to read the printed version? Well, I suppose. Some books are only available in digital format. I suppose you could order them on CD. But you would need the Internet for that.Just did some cross-stitching and sewing, but I got the patterns and instructions for that online.If the dinner meeting is arranged online, that is low-class, but if it is arranged using carrier pigeons, that is high-class?
(DIR) Post #B2Lc5mWe7bK58YnihE by fea186c2a4678dbc437704eed2160846e8a781e5fb17056e9bb333840d5bdef2@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T07:39:34.000Z
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That's what I mean. It's making a class issue of something that isn't the actual metric we should use to measure quality of life, in my opinion. I do think we should have online systems that respect us, but that's also a separate issue I think.
(DIR) Post #B2Lc829myYE0CDBRVQ by fea186c2a4678dbc437704eed2160846e8a781e5fb17056e9bb333840d5bdef2@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T07:44:04.000Z
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There could be some niche argument. For example, maybe digital books are cheaper (that isn't always the case now, but let's say it is then) so poorer people tend to buy them. But the digital versions, like today, can be taken back on a whim, altered, etc. While the paper books, assuming they don't get destroyed in some other way, are closer to ownership for the rich people. But that again is a different issue than simply online vs offline. This would miss the point that poor people will likely have access to ever cheaper technology that makes such issues less important. AI, etc.
(DIR) Post #B2Lc83YdldhKXZonse by dd664d5e4016433a8cd69f005ae1480804351789b59de5af06276de65633d319@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T07:59:38.000Z
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Poor people don't read books. That is one major reason why they stay poor.I have a house full of paper books, but you really would need a mansion with a large library, to fit in many more. Most are rotting away in the basement or in boxes in the closet. I do the middle-class thing and go to the library, but they are also space-limited, so some books I like borrowing eventually get taken out of the shelves. E-books are much better, as you can have as many as you have digital storage space, but I didn't want anyone to change them from underneath me, so I went online and built software that keeps books on relays and allows every part of them to be cryptographically signed and the changes tracked. Which solves that problem.And then, anyone with a cell phone can have access to any book I also have access to, since the relay is public. This was better, then going offline, with my paper edition of Frankenstein, and sneering at the commoners who can't afford to buy 500000 paper books.
(DIR) Post #B2LcLB0lMmGPQEEF5U by d2e6028f99deb2c76c8ebf34531bef058ef525f1624f74ad96e31cf9fb7b11e3@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T10:56:25.000Z
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This is impressive.I'd be interested in browsing your collection."Poor people dont read books." - bad assumption though.
(DIR) Post #B2LcLBti4UDSAdw7jU by dd664d5e4016433a8cd69f005ae1480804351789b59de5af06276de65633d319@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T11:16:13.000Z
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Every poor person I've met, who took on the habit of reading books, didn't stay poor for long.So, that's my personal anecdote.
(DIR) Post #B2LcLD8zRA262K5qBk by dd664d5e4016433a8cd69f005ae1480804351789b59de5af06276de65633d319@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T11:17:28.000Z
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You can search for the books on https://next-alexandria.gitcitadel.eu/
(DIR) Post #B2LcYRDyOjFTTEjOng by dd664d5e4016433a8cd69f005ae1480804351789b59de5af06276de65633d319@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T16:17:25.000Z
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It's getting like that, here, too. Need a smartphone, in the real world. Even getting hard to just use a PC.
(DIR) Post #B2Li0VlLcM0hQPY0nY by 036533caa872376946d4e4fdea4c1a0441eda38ca2d9d9417bb36006cbaabf58@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T16:44:26.000Z
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The OP is a prediction to be clear. I also believe it already _is_ a class issue. You will be treated differently by your friends and family, if you don't do things online or carry a smartphone. When someone asks me for GPS directions, I have to smile and say no, I cant. When someone asks me to look up when or where something is. Sorry can't do that, give me your phone. Bruh...Hey can you put on some music. Yeah what radio station do you listen to? Bruh... Where do you want to eat? Idk grab the phone book? Have any menus in your drawer? Bruh. It's already done.
(DIR) Post #B2Li0WU0wHjtewRgQ4 by d28413712171c33e117d4bd0930ac05b2c51b30eb3021ef8d4f1233f02c90a2b@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T16:46:33.000Z
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Reading all this and in shock. Seeing your handle, and posts with tons of chips and network talk, it wasn't what I expected.
(DIR) Post #B2Li0XAuMo3BnyVwHI by 036533caa872376946d4e4fdea4c1a0441eda38ca2d9d9417bb36006cbaabf58@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T17:03:14.000Z
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I got into tech from the ground floor, electronics and circuits. Working my way up, I realized unless I write it all myself 99.999% of devs don't see every one of these issues a problem, nor a problem they can solve. It compounds. The only solution I can see right now, is to opt out. I don't don't want a Google device, I don't like them, I don't want to pay Google a dime. So I'm left with basically no options for a usable smartphone base. That's the TLDR. In college I worked with a team that was building a device to track packets. What we learned is that so long as a device had a radio in it and the radio/modem was powered on, we could know your physical proximity to a single array antenna within about 2 meters. Since then I realized there is no way out. I then learned how digital radios work, wrote firmware for them. Any antenna with an amplifier can pick up signals the analog end is tuned to. It's the system (os/driver) developer's job to filter out useless information. Which means that so long as you have a radio tuned to the same frequency everyone else is using (wifi, bluetooth, 4G-5G) the modem sees every packet that matches the preamble and decides to handle it, or drop it. So every wifi device, for example, reads every wifi packet from every device in it's radius. It sees the hardware (mac address) of every device and decides to pass it or discard it. If you wanted to listen, it's called promiscuous mode, most wifi hardware supports it and most linux and windows network drivers support it. You can install a program right now, on any wifi enabled linux device, and see the approximate proximity (based on rssi) and the hardware address of every wifi enabled device around you. You could record all day long. You can know who is driving by your house, how often, what direction they were headed (and approximately how fast they were going) if they stopped at a red light, or even how much wireless activity was happening and then suggest they were using their phone while parked. No special hardware required. If you have a radio, it can be monitored. If you record audio, they can recover the 60hz (and harmonics) noise from the power grid and determine your approximate location and time.
(DIR) Post #B2Li0XxpQvBMFhP0Wu by 036533caa872376946d4e4fdea4c1a0441eda38ca2d9d9417bb36006cbaabf58@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T17:07:29.000Z
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Also, incase you were wondering, we were close to Washington DC. That project was sponsored, and the students running it were hired to government agencies and defense contractors.
(DIR) Post #B2LlO0pMaM3iIGK7sm by d28413712171c33e117d4bd0930ac05b2c51b30eb3021ef8d4f1233f02c90a2b@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T17:37:04.000Z
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¡Jesus Christo! I sorta wish I hadn't read this. Ignorance really is bliss. I do the bare minimum to stay private. Tried to up my game once or twice in the past and quickly realized I'm not capable of the sly-level opsec I was fantasizing about. It only stressed me out, and made normal life full of unnecessary friction (since my attempts were totally worthless, really).My goal for this year is to go a bit further with Linux, and see about maybe getting giving graphene another try. Don't expect it to shield me from sophisticated snoops, but maybe at least get my crap outta the hands of big tech a bit.
(DIR) Post #B2LlO1mD3Z89Elr7bc by 036533caa872376946d4e4fdea4c1a0441eda38ca2d9d9417bb36006cbaabf58@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T17:55:26.000Z
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I think the common pitfall is many assume you can still have the same level of conveniences simply with more security. I'm here to suggest it's not worth the effort. Finding alternatives to the same things often just complicates your life without adding any net increase in privacy/security. As long as you're working against natural human behavior, you're going to lose. For example, drinkers can become pot smokers when they want to quit. Pot smokers can become drinkers when they need to get clean for a new job. They substitute one vice for another to get the singular outcome they require for the moment while maintaining a similar level of "relief" but still having the same level of DUI risk. (remember this an example lol) So long as your device has a radio, I don't care how much nerds will sell you on buzzwords, like linux, encryption, and tor, lora, mesh networks, etc. If it generates a signal, it can be tracked, it just matters how that applies to your life. It doesn't matter if you cover your face or change your clothes, your gate identifies you no matter where you go. There isn't enough entropy in all human behavior to make it untraceable. If you're too random, you're unique and therefor traceable. If you're too similar you're tracked with the herd, so anytime you step out, you're again unique and traceable.On the few podcast episodes I did, I wanted to get across to the audience that the human behavior aspect. You could use any anti-tracking tool in the world, but if you open your browser at the same time every day, and look the same stuff up with the same tools, you've once again been identified. Now some of this is completely true. Some of this is only true if attention is paid to you. Right now... I'm arguing that a future exists where we're our human behavior is monitored by so many metrics, that it doesn't matter what you use, so long as it generates signals you're behavior is identifiable. I'm suggesting focusing on how you can control your interaction with tech. Limit the information that can be traced. It can be done, not all hope is lost, and not every action is futile, but if you don't understand what's being tracked, you can never fully understand how to protect yourself. You'd just be like everyone else in the cyber crowd that jumps from VPN or Email service every few years when they learn the service had a compromise or a bad privacy policy. So my advice is, If you're in tech for a living, you should really invest some time into how things really work. If you're not in tech limit your interaction as much as possible.
(DIR) Post #B2LmraBIJtmAIFFIjQ by fea186c2a4678dbc437704eed2160846e8a781e5fb17056e9bb333840d5bdef2@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T17:50:27.000Z
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I think it's best to just look at your threat model and adjust things accordingly. For most of us, that's probably the Google's of the world and poor opsec habits. I use things like SimpleLogin, Privacy.com, GrapheneOS, etc to make small improvements. You're not going to compete with a nation state if they want to get you. But it isn't futile to make small improvements to reduce overall risk.
(DIR) Post #B2LmrasXj6N2SNTq8u by 036533caa872376946d4e4fdea4c1a0441eda38ca2d9d9417bb36006cbaabf58@mostr.pub
2026-01-16T18:12:56.000Z
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The reason I couldn't get on a plane 5 years ago without getting a strip search and a groping is the same reason I assume I'm actively monitored by at least one nation state... For what? I wish I knew. I just try to have things that can't be used against me. I keep a physical receipt from any place I can, incase I ever need to prove my whereabouts. The issue is often that when an agency raids your house they take everything and you have to fight to get it back. Meaning they could easily tamper with your ability to defend yourself. You need multiple copies of things in different places. It's also useful to be awake between 4-6 AM on routine incase they try to kick your door in XD