Post B2LX1q8YFkshPNpdrM by manfromhuh@dsmc.space
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(DIR) Post #B2L9cqxjkTyjmdtEmm by icedquinn@blob.cat
2026-01-16T10:54:01.210370Z
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wondered why deltachat was so quiet. turns out the alpine upgrade installed a version of dovecot with a breaking change to configs and the mail servers down.formally speaking i hate distro packages now.
(DIR) Post #B2LANF6MKfkDyE2jVw by icedquinn@blob.cat
2026-01-16T11:02:24.124017Z
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if i'm gonna have to redo all kinds of shit it looks like i might as well just switch everything to containers. tired of this dumb bullshit where distros push updates to things like dovecot or python which in turn causes a massive cascade of shit to break because haha lmao oh man what is semantic versioning :neocat_gun:
(DIR) Post #B2LBJqIMCp0U7Ub76O by bonifartius@noauthority.social
2026-01-16T11:13:01Z
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@icedquinn well, that's not a package problem but a package maintainer is a retard problem
(DIR) Post #B2LBVUrlhgKf8OiaXI by icedquinn@blob.cat
2026-01-16T11:15:05.790841Z
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@bonifartius i'm a simple blob i push update and it breaks and its whoever approved the manifests problem :blobcathissing:
(DIR) Post #B2LBXNU47btKolWoKm by icedquinn@blob.cat
2026-01-16T11:15:26.777706Z
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@bonifartius i mean ultimately its mine for updating anything (i often don't) but still
(DIR) Post #B2LCgpSpYt8G9n1NRo by bonifartius@noauthority.social
2026-01-16T11:28:22Z
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@icedquinn tbf, the only distribution that hasn't caused me problems with this was slackware. debian is fine in most cases but when it breaks, it breaks hard because of all the debian specific customization and patching.
(DIR) Post #B2LCwyEwhTno0bDvHM by icedquinn@blob.cat
2026-01-16T11:31:16.085155Z
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@bonifartius i need to just only use docker/podman/lxds for services. then i dont have to deal with this
(DIR) Post #B2LD2r7S5XgVf3Wam0 by bonifartius@noauthority.social
2026-01-16T11:32:21Z
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@icedquinn and containers are just never upgraded at all :D
(DIR) Post #B2LD4pKnh8quhmhyW8 by icedquinn@blob.cat
2026-01-16T11:32:41.302485Z
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@bonifartius exactly :blobfoxgooglynomlog:
(DIR) Post #B2LX1q8YFkshPNpdrM by manfromhuh@dsmc.space
2026-01-16T15:16:16.041036Z
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@icedquinn Listen, if you can't devote several hours a week scouring the change logs we publish on a mailing list (who's sign up page was deleted) for breaking changes to your software, then maybe self hosting just isn't for you.
(DIR) Post #B2LaGxzVdL6VyRVV2G by icedquinn@blob.cat
2026-01-16T15:52:36.343889Z
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@manfromhuh do kind of think the purpose of the root install is increasingly just to run the container engine :cat_sad: the immutable distros are showing that the macos model was basically right
(DIR) Post #B2Lc43JUjYE2cmpCqG by manfromhuh@dsmc.space
2026-01-16T16:12:41.469590Z
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@icedquinn Being able to roll back changes when something breaks as a default does seem kind of nice.
(DIR) Post #B2LcIwm7KEYEgqJb6G by i@declin.eu
2026-01-16T16:15:18.030913Z
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@manfromhuh @icedquinn it was kind of a dick move to make people redo their entire config in a minor release too, this really should have been dovecot 3 instead of 2.4
(DIR) Post #B2LcNjtqcgCuCpDSsq by icedquinn@blob.cat
2026-01-16T16:16:13.745979Z
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@i @manfromhuh :blobcatwhip: definitely going to semver jail