Post B2JMrUrL7WDGfCI5I0 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
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(DIR) Post #B2JJ0RojOskQ1C5E3M by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T13:29:41.874Z
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I'm going to say it again.Despite Google being Google, Sailfish OS contains more proprietary software than Android does.Do not buy the new Jolla phone. Going from Android to Sailfish OS is a downgrade in terms of your freedom!
(DIR) Post #B2JJH1Q8nNth4cU6Rk by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
2026-01-15T13:32:37.737327Z
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@SuperDicq i just want smth more compatible with regular linux and jolla seems way more polished than alternatives. Also, aosp seems to be getting abandoned
(DIR) Post #B2JJVRt7BgGzDMurj6 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T13:35:16.795Z
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@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz I don't think AOSP will be abandoned.If Google ever stops developing it I'm sure the community will simply take over because the userbase is huge.I don't know what you mean with "more compatible with regular linux".Did you mean that Sailfish OS is GNU/Linux, as in it is more compatible with desktop GNU/Linux because it is actually a GNU OS unlike Android?
(DIR) Post #B2JKtrhKygTwAQc7FI by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
2026-01-15T13:50:51.106662Z
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@SuperDicq yeah, afaik you can basically just run programs written for a regular gnu/linux desktop with wayland on sailfish
(DIR) Post #B2JLIH2aPDTdiTBwvI by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T13:55:19.569Z
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@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz As long as it works on a 10 year old version of Wayland that Sailfish OS comes with due to their stupid proprietary license, then yes, I think you can.
(DIR) Post #B2JLM4cAY0ZaKseBVo by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T13:56:00.366Z
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@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz But running desktop GNU/Linux applications probably works much better on something like PureOS or Mobian I can imagine.
(DIR) Post #B2JLsVrclqpw7ALQIa by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
2026-01-15T14:01:47.005636Z
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@SuperDicq mobian, postmarketos and friends don't support basic functionality on pretty much anything but pinephones last time i checked. Never looked at pureos tho
(DIR) Post #B2JLvEMGJVAOgpyGNU by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-15T14:02:21.416257Z
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@SuperDicq buy a used pixel and install grapheneos . its literally the best way to use android nowadays .
(DIR) Post #B2JM23F82NneFCt2UC by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:03:35.850Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink No, it isn't. For an actual pragmatic solution (so excluding Replicant as that doesn't support most devices), I think the best thing you can do right now is use LineageOS.
(DIR) Post #B2JMAVbwRxOqXhaenI by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-15T14:05:08.393767Z
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@SuperDicq ig . im talking about a good minimal google-stripped version of android . as much as u can hate it , graphene is actually the nicest android experience ive ever had
(DIR) Post #B2JMDZ8PnyfyL9El9M by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:05:40.735Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink LineageOS is a more minimal google-stripped version of Android than GrapheneOS is.
(DIR) Post #B2JMHVJVxAXDeEJ4KG by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-15T14:06:24.978579Z
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@SuperDicq i guess
(DIR) Post #B2JMO49fKNUNRXpRyq by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:07:34.226Z
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@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz PureOS supports all of the device's features perfectly on the Librem 5.
(DIR) Post #B2JMZSVj76d2APa2Ns by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:09:37.798Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink I own a Fairphone 3 with LineageOS. It works very well and I would recommend it to anyone who needs to have an Android-based phone.
(DIR) Post #B2JMcXUx1iUsVJgcC0 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-15T14:10:13.167785Z
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@SuperDicq i just want to buy a n900 and run pmos on it
(DIR) Post #B2JMgSEiX2tjLKxa7s by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:10:53.968Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink I used to like the N900 back in the day but it is unusable as a phone nowadays because it doesn't support the 4G or 5G network.
(DIR) Post #B2JMnXKZzNQvAe4xiC by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:12:10.663Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink Also there's no need for PMOS, there is also a community fork of Maemo called "Leste". I have also used Leste and it works pretty well.
(DIR) Post #B2JMqg2E5HcN2BzYg4 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:12:44.656Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink I did run Leste on a Pinephone though, not on a N900.
(DIR) Post #B2JMrUrL7WDGfCI5I0 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-15T14:12:54.741491Z
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@SuperDicq i just need it to connect to a caldav server . idont even rlly need a graphical session on it
(DIR) Post #B2JNgNxSXSko1oQ1Ls by phnt@fluffytail.org
2026-01-15T14:22:07.289371Z
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@SuperDicq @snacks >If Google ever stops developing it I'm sure the community will simply take over because the userbase is huge.I think you are overestimating greatly. The moment Google decides to pull the plug on AOSP, it is gone. It's like saying that if Mozilla decides to shut the doors, someone will maintain Firefox. Nobody will. At least not the same extent as both are developed today. You may get a patch release every few months, but say goodbye to security patches. Want an example? Look at Replicant. Trying to free-softwarify AOSP is doomed before you even start.
(DIR) Post #B2JNpeo7GLw2tLTB7Q by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:23:45.935Z
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@phnt@fluffytail.org @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz Replicant is made by two people in their spare time while also working on other projects. I know them personally.If AOSP ever goes away there will be many more people working on AOSP forks. I know it will happen.
(DIR) Post #B2JO31JGuUq8RkPkdU by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:26:09.298Z
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@phnt@fluffytail.org @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz if Mozilla decides to shut the doors, someone will maintain Firefox.This already happens by the way. Many Firefox forks exist today while Mozilla is still active.Especially forks that already don't rely on upstream, such as Palemoon, will definitely not give a shit if Mozilla goes under.
(DIR) Post #B2JO4EsdwOhIpAXYgK by phnt@fluffytail.org
2026-01-15T14:26:23.989631Z
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@SuperDicq @snacks If you want an actual solution to the smartphone problem, Jolla is mostly your only choice. The more traditional Linux phones are DoA because it is mostly all gnome, or more-than-usual buggy KDE. Jolla is the only one that made it happen so far and is mostly usable as a phone. Your best bet is probably come to them and negotiate a licensing deal like KDE did with Qt decades ago.
(DIR) Post #B2JOBxiFeZzxteMWUC by phnt@fluffytail.org
2026-01-15T14:27:49.424313Z
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@SuperDicq @snacks > Replicant is made by two people in their spare time while also working on other projects. I know them personally.Graphene doesn't have a much larger team than that either. They are now stalled and I don't think they are planning to support Android 16 as of yet. (I read Daniel Micay talk about it on here. Some dev burn out or something. Their lead developer is deployed in Ukraine btw.)
(DIR) Post #B2JOC0BkRsmVZiB6jw by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:27:48.722Z
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@phnt@fluffytail.org @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz Jolla is the only one that made it happen so far and is mostly usable as a phone. Any LineageOS supported phone is much more usable than whatever Jolla makes and less proprietary too.
(DIR) Post #B2JOH1ylDdmGZmV8oS by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:28:42.907Z
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@phnt@fluffytail.org @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz GrapheneOS has more developers than two and they can work on it fulltime because they have actual funding.
(DIR) Post #B2JOKGRjsznIJZb6kS by GrapheneOS@cum.salon
2026-01-15T14:29:17.904106Z
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@phnt @SuperDicq @snacks "Jolla" sounds retarded. Probably made by paedophiles as well.
(DIR) Post #B2JONv8R3yETNRJOfw by phnt@fluffytail.org
2026-01-15T14:29:59.273181Z
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@SuperDicq @snacks >Many Firefox forks exist today while Mozilla is still active.90% of the time it is a UI reskin with no meaningful changes (Floorp), or a patchset changing default configs (Librewolf). No actual development on the browser happens there.>specially forks that already don't rely on upstream, such as PalemoonYes, using a rendering engine from a decade ago that barely works on anything made in 2020+. Surely, that's a great solution. Especially if the maintainer is a dick and threatens lawsuits if you package Palemoon.
(DIR) Post #B2JOVxNCcpwodS3Dpg by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:31:24.588Z
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@phnt@fluffytail.org @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz I do agree with you that the trademark issues surrounding Palemoon are really fucking dumb, but similarly to Mozilla's trademark this can be avoided by simply packaging the browser under a different name.
(DIR) Post #B2JOaXof4ceyor5A3s by GrapheneOS@cum.salon
2026-01-15T14:32:15.085182Z
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@phnt @SuperDicq @snacks This is why FOSS will never catch on. What the fuck is a "Jolla"?
(DIR) Post #B2JOh63agDq8kjBohM by phnt@fluffytail.org
2026-01-15T14:33:25.535372Z
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@GrapheneOS @SuperDicq @snacks Could you post the R*ssmann K*wiF*rms receipts?daniel-micay-grapheneos-posts-receipts.png
(DIR) Post #B2JOlI2s37kf5mqufo by GrapheneOS@cum.salon
2026-01-15T14:34:11.388317Z
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@phnt @SuperDicq @snacks How about I fuck your mother instead?
(DIR) Post #B2JOmpEW8wW0JQ23W4 by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T14:34:27.038Z
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@phnt@fluffytail.org @GrapheneOS@cum.salon @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz I think the fact that Rossman and Daniel are fighting with each other is absolute kino. Because I think both of them are really stupid human beings.
(DIR) Post #B2JPK1o8PdpirqWYkq by GrapheneOS@cum.salon
2026-01-15T14:40:27.976204Z
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@SuperDicq @snacks @phnt You just think you're so smart, huh?
(DIR) Post #B2JPZeUSsCrVBRm27s by snacks@netzsphaere.xyz
2026-01-15T14:43:13.278292Z
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@phnt @SuperDicq everyone i know in person who tried running linux phones apart from sailfishos based ones had to give up because they're unusable, even on well supported hardware
(DIR) Post #B2JPtxt8Shfj8Y00sC by phnt@fluffytail.org
2026-01-15T14:46:57.319791Z
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@snacks @SuperDicq The ability to have a phone call being called "feature" is I think all one needs to know in the current state.
(DIR) Post #B2JRdxFHHgR4PyqjNw by SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
2026-01-15T15:06:28.268Z
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@phnt@fluffytail.org @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz I'm not sure what you're talking about but I can make phonecalls just fine on both my Pinephone and Librem 5.
(DIR) Post #B2JRoh5NhoFFU9LEQK by phnt@fluffytail.org
2026-01-15T15:08:26.233989Z
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@SuperDicq @snacks That making phone calls is still regarded as something that should not be taken as automatically working. When it is literally the point of having a phone. See the screenshot snacks posted earlier.