Post B2It2FcX7YYxxgZpsu by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
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 (DIR) Post #B2IsFe1TbZeJSF4CJc by bruces@mastodon.social
       2026-01-15T07:37:54Z
       
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       *You have to wonder what an Internet-blackout USA would look like.  There's some big civil disorder, "they" shut down the routers, and then what*How do people even eathttps://curifem.github.io/iran-internet-blackout/
       
 (DIR) Post #B2IsFfZBriDAF5qdVI by becha@social.v.st
       2026-01-15T08:28:28Z
       
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       @bruces the article explains -  in USofA this kind of (BGP/DNS) shutdown would (yet) not be possible due to decentralized (market &) architecture of internet connectivity between providers & countries … … but other ways for repressive government to tamper with the information access for citizens are already in place there (NSA surveillance, propaganda, IMSI catchers, ownership of (social) media, etc)
       
 (DIR) Post #B2Isv0Rh8s6as33L9c by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
       2026-01-15T08:37:18.371241Z
       
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       The problem is that the government (in any country) can call the telcos and tell them to stop routers, and no one with infrastructure in that country is going to defy the government/president - even if they're wrong, and even if the courts will later rule that they're wrong.What probably actually saves the west from this fate is the fact that enough people hate the government and would likely be mass rioting if internet was cut. Iranians on the other hand are fairly aligned with the state and are likely to.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2It2FcX7YYxxgZpsu by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
       2026-01-15T08:38:33.163688Z
       
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       *likely to sit tight and wait for things to settle.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2J3bWloLkpwpMNPHs by jrootham@mastodon.acm.org
       2026-01-15T10:17:08Z
       
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       @cjd @bruces @becha  What's your evidence that Iranians are more aligned with the state than Americans are?
       
 (DIR) Post #B2J3bXzfnhWGcdrzX6 by becha@social.v.st
       2026-01-15T10:28:42Z
       
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       @jrootham @cjd @bruces > “the government (in any country) can call the telcos and tell them to stop routers” while this might be the case, apparently (according to the original article, no time to do my own research) there are two telcos in Iran with BGP to other countries (plus satellite internet providers)  , while there are multiple such telcos in USA, making it harder for government to control bgp (as I was trying to say in my first reply).
       
 (DIR) Post #B2aC52U1LSR8ddVWUa by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
       2026-01-23T17:02:13.251006Z
       
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       @becha @bruces The NSA can almost certainly do it if they wanted even with current decentralization.  Trump could order the NSA to do it if he ever learned that fact.