Post B2FD6QcBPIcPfYqJXM by jumianr@mstdn.social
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 (DIR) Post #B2F9SvK1WHpLSZotgO by stux@mstdn.social
       2026-01-13T13:18:40Z
       
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       While I was just on my bike, I was thinking.. car drivers should be happy with people biking!It saves a lot of space on the roads so others can keep movingLuckily the Netherlands is quiete reasonable since it’s forced here, other countries should take an exampleOh and FYI, there are electric bikes these days that are truly amazing! Also for longer distances and uphill #bike :RideBikes: :RideLots:
       
 (DIR) Post #B2F9Sx7gp79L2u44jg by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
       2026-01-13T13:23:56.883825Z
       
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       I didn't get my license until I was in my mid-20s, and so I have a lot of sympathy for cyclists.But man, I don't care which vehicle you're in, nobody likes the two vehicle types sharing the road. Cars and bikes are different things. Even Cars and motorcyles are different things, but at least a motorcycle can usually out-accelerate a car.I'd prefer cyclists be allowed to stay on the sidewalk as long as they're not going excessively fast and not running into anyone.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2FD6QcBPIcPfYqJXM by jumianr@mstdn.social
       2026-01-13T13:59:13Z
       
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       @sj_zero @stux No, the sidewalks are for walking, not for riding a bike. Yes a crash at 25kph might not sound like too much but it can be deadly if the bike crashes into a child or an elderly person.If anything we need to surrender car lanes in order to build more car lanes. One car lane can comfortably fit 2 or even 3 bikes (depending on the size of your car lanes).Let's stop thinking car-first and start thinking people (and nature) first!
       
 (DIR) Post #B2FD6RqkobrtV2fSt6 by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
       2026-01-13T14:04:39.581640Z
       
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       That's poor logic, since it could be applied directly to bikes and cars. "The roads are for cars, not for riding a bike. Yes a crash at 50kph night not sound like too much but it can still be deadly if the cyclist is hit wrong."If 25kph is too high, then make the speed limit on bikes slower, and cyclists must dismount on busy sidewalks. They separate pedestrians and motor vehicles for a reason, and they reason applies equally to bicycles.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2FDZRyNRAJ2HM3wOW by stux@mstdn.social
       2026-01-13T14:07:06Z
       
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       @sj_zero @jumianr There could be road on wich both could be at the same time but limited speedOtherwise bikes should have their own dedicated lanes, just for safetyFor example biking on the highway would be a no-go but biking on the sidewalks results in a fine
       
 (DIR) Post #B2FDZTebBffpUapAqO by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
       2026-01-13T14:09:56.226139Z
       
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       Back before college I did a lot of long distance cycling. I'd ride on the side of the highway for up to about 120km in a day.It was good until one day some jerk decided to illegally pass on the unpaved shoulder, running me into a ditch.So the physical separation of sidewalks is also a nice thing for safety. Pass on the sidewalk if you dare, but at least you've got to hit the curb first, and even most jerks won't do that.
       
 (DIR) Post #B2HegycNY0rOdEVSGe by ianrogers@mstdn.social
       2026-01-13T16:35:07Z
       
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       @stux Here in Montreal people complain when the electric bike racks get installed in parking spaces - like. come on, guys! There are at least 5 bike recharging spaces for every car space - that averages out to 4 fewer cars looking for parking spaces, so you actually end up with MORE car parking if you give up space to bikes! I do envy the minimal snow and relative flatness of the Netherlands for biking, though :D
       
 (DIR) Post #B2HegzuqipEGeo9ihE by shadowferret@the9thcircle.club
       2026-01-14T18:23:13.305Z
       
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       @stux@mstdn.social @ianrogers@mstdn.social An average sedan can carry up to 5 people, so I wanna say it averages out. But most cars don't normally carry 5 people, so it's probably a positive.