Post B29vyHsxJEhRGeQ9OS by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
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(DIR) Post #B29uhUqvkBUwbku3Wq by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T00:38:23.873557Z
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It's never gonna work out. I can't deny my cultural heritage to find a religious community and be happy and heal at the same time. I also can't meet the baseline standards required for the different monotheisms. And some of them, have... issues. Okay, being real, the problem of hell makes me think they are lying about their teachings in general. I tried to resolve it. It's irresolvable. So, irreligious but with authenticity in cultural presentation. (And not fuckin telling a soul in my town that I left Islam.)
(DIR) Post #B29uhWTFjBkLctqAts by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
2026-01-11T00:44:44.678636Z
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@technicallydifficult hell is always temporary, so its basically just like an extreme version of being born very unfortunate due to ones karma
(DIR) Post #B29vyHGfba4hLuVZia by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T00:53:17.157850Z
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@georgia it's not in the types of christianity or islam I have tried. Christian science excepted. They hold that hell is a metaphor for suffering on earth.
(DIR) Post #B29vyHsxJEhRGeQ9OS by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
2026-01-11T00:58:58.606488Z
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@technicallydifficult try dharmic religion then? I like hinduism because its theistic. most believe in many devas (imo not unlike believing in angels or djinn) but one Supreme Lord (Brahman/Paramatman).
(DIR) Post #B29wItsRlZeqtA0n20 by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T01:00:07.802277Z
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@georgia Christian Science was my first religion, and my second (which I was forcibly converted to with beatings) was Evangelical Protestantism in the tradition of Billy Graham. I have also been Baptist, Methodist, Neo-Ebionite, and Messianic. And then also briefly tried to convert to Judaism, and also have been several types of Muslim. (I couldn't make it stick.)
(DIR) Post #B29wfPBU32loMAeBsW by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
2026-01-11T01:06:47.086398Z
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@technicallydifficult imo a lot of the bible is divinely revealed but not all of it. same with the many upanishads (some like the isha upanishad are clearly revealed). have you read the Bhagavad Gita? its a pretty good primer on what hinduism would become.
(DIR) Post #B29wmbSanxSeSO59Sy by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T01:03:08.383126Z
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@georgia I literally can't survive without meat. I have a genetic disorder which affects my ability to absorb vitamins from plants. (My stomach acid lacks the enzymes to break down cellulose and extract vitamin B)
(DIR) Post #B29wmcbqX2SQ1NQ3Wq by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
2026-01-11T01:08:04.467774Z
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@technicallydifficult you can eat meat and become fully enlightened, just look at guatama buddha.
(DIR) Post #B2A0leusruBWhg7Wb2 by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T01:32:44.660862Z
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@georgia I used to be Buddhist. I tried 4 schools of thought in Mahayanna and also 1 in Theravada. (50 religions is over 1/3 of all major religions). Used to really dig the Maezumi linneage Soto Zen teachings.Have read the Vedas and Baghvad Gita. And also the Pali Canon, Heart and Lotus Sutras, and used to try to emulate Avalokitesvara Bodhisattva (Guansiyin Pusa/ Kanzeon Bosatsu).
(DIR) Post #B2A0lkfVTzRwXiyKSe by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T01:45:15.136398Z
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@georgia Have also read Daoist scriptures, the Eddas, Sagas, various BOS of modern pagans, Greek and Roman and Egyptian Mythologies, and used to dedicate myself to the Roman Goddess Libertas Mater, and had tried many religions. 50. Was even into Proto-Indo-European Reconstructionist Polytheistic Shamanism. (Not dissimilar in structure to Shinto.) Was also an Ise School Shintoist, an Inari Shintoist, and a Kokokyoshi (follower of Konkokyo, a monotheistic Shinto sect). I have also tried Temple Satanism (non-theistic humanist religion that rejects the brutality of monotheistic faiths and worships one's own potential as a human being, essentially autoalotry).
(DIR) Post #B2A0lqJOV7KK2sfkpM by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T01:50:12.222183Z
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@georgia Oh, and Asatru, Vanatru, Traditional witchcraft, chaos magick, Egoism, Duidry, Fae-Centric Folk Religion of the Irish, Granny Magick (Appalachian Witchcraft-based shamanism), Tried Solo Wicca. Let's see.... What else? Was a ceremonial High Magus in the same vein as Alistar Crowley.
(DIR) Post #B2A10AV8EaLkiQzfPM by georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
2026-01-11T01:55:21.418880Z
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@technicallydifficult thats really impressive. and youre still seeking I presume? I hope you find what youre searching for. divine grace is very real.
(DIR) Post #B2A1CgW1228tTtNKWO by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T01:51:05.620502Z
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@technicallydifficult @georgia ἀποκατάστασις time
(DIR) Post #B2A1ChvvlASxsYVXYO by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T01:52:29.140009Z
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@lizzie @georgia apokataqtaqis?
(DIR) Post #B2A1CitqAQO8sMXNw0 by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T01:56:37.727004Z
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@technicallydifficult @georgia usually rendered apokatastasisthe restoration of all things. it’s a word paul uses to describe what is to come but it generally refers to a sort of universalism a lot of patristic era christians held to (including some church fathers). hell is not vengeance but purification and does not have the final claim on anyone
(DIR) Post #B2A3LXoEyC0AziFh0i by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:02:22.502066Z
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@technicallydifficult @georgia its a position i got dragged into kinda kicking and screaming lol. i have some nonzero trad instincts and though i would consider it orthodox, it is uncommon in this day. i was trying to argue some theological points based in things that are rather standard and found it to be the clear implication of what i was saying.among contemporary figures its often associated with david bentley hart but more broadly its associated with christian theologies that thoroughly reject dualism
(DIR) Post #B2A3LZBfqYLBGgDvAu by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:03:19.535763Z
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@georgia @technicallydifficult among church fathers its most associated with st gregory of nyssa
(DIR) Post #B2A3LaCm3woaQNkJWq by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:04:24.039456Z
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@lizzie @georgia I'm interested in Eastern Christianity, like, Syriac Orthodox and Coptic and stuff. But the books are expensive.
(DIR) Post #B2A3Lav5PCGCdoThb6 by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:06:35.225715Z
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@lizzie @georgia Anyone got an english translation of the codex sinaticus lying around?
(DIR) Post #B2A3LgMDBlvfVOCw4W by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:08:25.357342Z
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@georgia @lizzie Oh yeah, I've also read the entire collection of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
(DIR) Post #B2A3Lm5Pt83lH2Obj6 by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:10:48.614219Z
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@georgia @lizzie Maybe my knowledge level scared the crap out of muslims? (It should have made them happy that someone with that much knowledge chose islam, but it's also terra incognita for them.)
(DIR) Post #B2A3Ls4vbrEZrGDInY by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:13:14.477260Z
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@georgia @lizzie Like, the Quran and Isaiah have the same style of poetry. You can't appriciate that if you haven't read both.
(DIR) Post #B2A3LyHYXott6AATJY by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:17:36.075784Z
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@georgia @lizzie Isaiah also predicts the rise of Islam, so you'd think that would make them happy. but noooooo. They get salty if you say it. Isaiah 42 has place names from Medina and Makkah, and the muslims get very upset when you tell them that the Bible has prophecies about them. It's not saying anything wrong or bad about them. But for some reason, they are scared of the bible. Like, afraid of reading and comparing. Like, the same way christians are scared of touching a quran.
(DIR) Post #B2A3M3p3wffoHWsnjc by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:19:48.049960Z
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@georgia @lizzie Islam and Christianity are so similar, but both sides regard the other as amoral devils. But reading both, they complete each other. Like balancing the scales.
(DIR) Post #B2ADRj11DZAd1poaPY by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:51:51.485090Z
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@NotAFemboy @georgia @lizzie My mom doesn't understand the words in the bible and how sentences work. She's functionally illiterate. But it's weird, she's only illiterate when reading the bible. Her understanding of the bible is based on feelings and not what it says. It's infuriating.
(DIR) Post #B2ADRkBgrNIifDocgS by NotAFemboy@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:59:00.930693Z
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@technicallydifficult @georgia @lizzie Yeah, that's fairly common when one takes a "scriptural inerrancy" position (which is actually fairly new and would have been very foreign to how the reformers understood Sola Scriptura) and try to see scripture as a continuous narrative that speaks to a single way for every person in every time to live rather than accepting that scripture speaks from multiple perspectives to different life situations as is common outside of American Evangelicalism.
(DIR) Post #B2ADRl77PrEpXKgUCG by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T03:12:05.067846Z
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@NotAFemboy @georgia @lizzie She also argues for several different types of God concepts and doesn't seem to understand that they are different. In the past year I have heard:Jesus Only Monotheism (ignoring the father and holy spirit entirely)regualar TrinitarianismPauline DualismNeoplatonic DualismJewish HenotheismMarcionite DualismGnostic Dualismpolytheistic trinitarianism (tritheism)adoptionismmodalismpatripassianismBut at no point did she think these were different concepts. Nor was she open to the other option, That there's One God.
(DIR) Post #B2ADRlkT3YiJVN5uWu by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T03:56:29.240816Z
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@technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @georgia “ignoring the father and the holy spirit” wym?
(DIR) Post #B2ADRmR0VOk1dIzsps by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T03:58:20.327062Z
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@lizzie @NotAFemboy @georgia She believes Jesus = God, and the Father and Holy Spirit are not beings either seperately or as part of a trinity, but instead rhetorical devices to describe the nature of Jesus as God.
(DIR) Post #B2ADRn3eBjeLZ94k40 by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T04:11:40.640752Z
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@technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @georgia i mean technically the father and the holy spirit arent separate by the athanasian creed’s view bc there’s only one being but ik thats not what youre talking about here
(DIR) Post #B2ADRnfZuhzVSmp2Bc by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T04:13:53.965511Z
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@technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @georgia also part of trinity gets my nitpickiness going 😭😭 bc the trinity isnt a matter of partiality. theyre all individually the whole singular essence
(DIR) Post #B2ADRrXDXjgDS0wPi4 by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T04:00:14.604040Z
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@lizzie @NotAFemboy @georgia In her words, as part of an argument we had a month ago:"God isn't Allah, because God's name is Jesus."
(DIR) Post #B2AGsc9Z8fcdQYKHiK by azalea@woem.space
2026-01-11T04:46:06.939053Z
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@technicallydifficult @georgia egoism mentioned o.oalso . azalea is tempted to talk about its ideas of religion [honestly it has thoughts about the word “religion” itself] but its not sure if thats a good idea/wanted, awa
(DIR) Post #B2AGsdDrACeGk9LE2a by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T04:49:51.498040Z
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@azalea @georgia hai, douzo. Chair recognizes the little doll. Go ahead.
(DIR) Post #B2BtYcPyXHkjpKPxui by NotAFemboy@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:28:05.117315Z
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@technicallydifficult @georgia @lizzie Yeah, as a Christian I don't really understand the hatred of Islam and the love for Judaism, all three have more in common than they have different, but Christianity and Islam are far more similar to one another than either are to Judaism. Probably just tyranny of small differences and the fact that white supremacy and anti-colonialism are wrapped up in these discussions and very few actually are speaking of the *religions* so much as they are of ethnic conflicts some of which are either very old, very bloody or often both.
(DIR) Post #B2BtYdIZGJQCYdxZ0S by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:30:06.553055Z
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@NotAFemboy @georgia @lizzie My working theory for why I got kicked out of Islamic community and publically told to fuck off in a sermon is that I couldn't stop being white.https://sciencespo.hal.science/hal-01422847/document
(DIR) Post #B2BtYdzofW14imC6Pw by apophis@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T07:31:05.683767Z
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@technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @georgia @lizzie ...you're white?
(DIR) Post #B2BtYet7LuFhUI4GcC by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T07:41:33.844091Z
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@apophis @NotAFemboy @georgia @lizzie Yes. Do I not seem white? Like, what did you think I was? Like, I get that I speak some Arabic and Spanish, but language doesn't make me less susceptible to sunburn. Like, okay, I can see the issue. I eat a lot of arab food and curry and wear this:
(DIR) Post #B2BtYfZIp3zpb7nxMu by apophis@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T07:47:21.205019Z
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@technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @georgia @lizzie for a while early on i would frequently confuse you with hina and i may have misattributed some passing comment about being mixed asian to you instead of her :menheraUh:
(DIR) Post #B2BtYg7glDVBJltPxw by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T08:07:25.533666Z
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@apophis @NotAFemboy @georgia @lizzie Ohhhh. Her. Yeah, I'm not Vietnamese. Also, Muslims and Sumerian pantheon Neo-Pagans are kind of natural enemies. There's a rivalry that makes some kind of sense. I used to be friends with Hina actually. Long time ago. How's she been lately?
(DIR) Post #B2BtYgjGVVYlCJTQXI by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T08:20:28.314150Z
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@apophis @NotAFemboy @georgia @lizzie who wants mid east food???
(DIR) Post #B2BtYhGEWvvmqYtkvI by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T18:10:08.240009Z
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@technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia mid east food when peak east food walks in
(DIR) Post #B2BtYhssDGq6mOyc9Q by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T19:08:15.940652Z
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@lizzie @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia Ramen and gyoza?
(DIR) Post #B2BtYiBJ6jaJhZbKsq by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T02:32:46.710498Z
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@NotAFemboy @georgia @lizzie Like, 80% of White converts to Islam leave due to bullying and neglect by the community. We white convert ex-muslims occupy a liminal space in society.
(DIR) Post #B2BtYiUnwFBGg2iuH2 by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T19:10:43.309223Z
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@technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia i guessim just joking about ‘mid’
(DIR) Post #B2BtYjJ8v5RlCAH6jg by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T19:50:11.183827Z
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@lizzie @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia So, explain it to me, because the christianity I tried before wasn't making sense.
(DIR) Post #B2BtYjrWrEx6uoMZKi by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T19:55:35.843382Z
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@technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia my joke about the word mid or christianity?
(DIR) Post #B2BtYkPCq1tIbG7SpE by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T20:07:59.580909Z
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@lizzie @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia Can you explain the Son of God thing? It doesn't work like Odin and Badr right? Like, is it a metaphor or adoption or like, muslims say it's kun fayakun "God says "be" and it is".
(DIR) Post #B2BtYlH5bgzbINKUoS by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T20:46:46.558287Z
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@technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia tbh it’ll take me a bit to give a decent explanation. Christology isn’t understood through just saying things (there are rigorous definitions for sure but they are products of this process). Christology to me is understood through prayerful navigation.The short answer is that God is Love, and so to be the existence of Love in the world is to be God and it is to be well. To be Love in the world is to do the will of the Father who is love. It is to love and be loved by the father.
(DIR) Post #B2BtYlxz2DItRPOkfg by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T20:56:53.740279Z
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@technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia it’s worth noting that we get “God is love” from john who also gave us a lot of the basis for christology and trinitarianism in the start of his gospel account
(DIR) Post #B2BtYmj8Cv19ndSPA0 by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T20:57:51.601511Z
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@lizzie @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia So like, read john to kinda figure out the basics then?
(DIR) Post #B2BtYnbMxGP2VqpihU by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T21:00:02.147629Z
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@lizzie @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia Should I read the textus receptus or one of the eastern versions?
(DIR) Post #B2BtYoQ3umx734YCiO by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T21:17:00.669348Z
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@technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia any translation will dothe biggest thing is to consider what it means for christ to be the logos
(DIR) Post #B2BtYpVlr374R4EHFg by apophis@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T23:14:05.755885Z
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@lizzie @technicallydifficult @NotAFemboy @georgia still thinking about your "stuck in a system where god is a thing that exists" framing the other day and how i'd never really left that world where the only things are things that are
(DIR) Post #B2BtYpcVS0V6lxNeka by technicallydifficult@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T20:17:04.253907Z
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@lizzie @NotAFemboy @apophis @georgia Oh, and how does that fit with John 17:3?
(DIR) Post #B2BtYqNeciDN8BRJEu by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T23:24:35.450142Z
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@apophis @NotAFemboy @georgia @technicallydifficult when lillian was pseudo-dionysius posting i was kind of uncomfortable with the ideas presented and though i still havent gotten around to reading on divine names, a lot of what lillian picked up from it has had an impact on me
(DIR) Post #B2BtYr4u1uoFIJfqeO by lizzie@brain.worm.pink
2026-01-11T23:26:05.965816Z
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@apophis @NotAFemboy @georgia @technicallydifficult tbh i still kinda use the language of nothing is real except God and God isn’t real interchangeably. im getting at the same idea with both.