Post B1mnMs84A3t5Lik5EO by tim@union.place
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 (DIR) Post #B1mnMqkdHhY54klr4C by tim@union.place
       2025-12-30T20:25:14Z
       
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       @nyquildotorg ah, okay, I missed the point there, sorry. I wonder if anyone has looked at this type of thing over time. Like, 50 years ago, were we afraid we'd lose the ability to ... I dunno, drive a stick-shift car? And now that people mostly have, does it matter?To be more specific: I wonder if we're just imagining future trouble that will never materialize.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1mnMs84A3t5Lik5EO by tim@union.place
       2025-12-30T20:26:34Z
       
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       @nyquildotorg Or I guess a better question would be "is there a tangible example of something we lost from 50 or 100 years ago that we weren't worried about, but now is a problem?"
       
 (DIR) Post #B1mnMtEq2Mtmn0v0QS by lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br
       2025-12-30T21:02:03Z
       
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       eating healthy natural foods instead of ultraprocessed ones, for onereading books and newspapers instead of doomscrollingthinking for ourselves instead of taking GenBS as truthkeeping the planet inhabitable instead of destroying everything (ok, maybe we just didn't know how to do the latter yet)there's probably plenty moreCC: @nyquildotorg@gts.nyquil.org
       
 (DIR) Post #B1moVAYfcscEmEhrk0 by tim@union.place
       2025-12-30T21:07:54Z
       
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       @lxo @nyquildotorg > reading books and newspapers instead of doomscrolling> thinking for ourselves instead of taking GenBS as truthThese are super interesting to dig into, because I would put these into the category of what my historian spouse describes as "we always think the current moment is the worst".That said, I do think these particular points are symbolic/emblematic of a problematic direction/pattern. But I'm not sure it'll be so clear-cut in 50 years that it was all bad.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1moVCMguODoNf7KLY by lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br
       2025-12-30T21:15:15Z
       
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       hey, you asked 50 to 100! 🙂I'm pretty sure we didn't even have the notion of doomscrolling back then, and functional (err) GenBS is even more recent.  so these were easy picks, even if we could debate how much the people actually read books and thought for themselves back then.  some would say that newspapers were the doomscrolling of the time.I didn't even mention "talking to each other" instead of doomscrolling, and as schools prohibit mobiles on premises, we're seeing students go back to talking and interacting as well.  so I'd count that as yet another robust difference.that said, your challenging these items is interesting and valuable too: I was going to joke about voting as one of the items, because recent elections have been pretty messed up all over.  but then, in that 50 to 100y timeframe some pretty bad guys got elected as well.CC: @nyquildotorg@gts.nyquil.org