Post B1kbVZUtDSIuP5sbWi by rgo@masto.pt
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 (DIR) Post #B1jOyWTE3ViQqscGZM by jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
       2025-12-28T20:21:27Z
       
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       You might not notice it in your peer group, when you are not their age, but my daughter showed me that many 20-30yr olds are switching to dumb phones, are cancelling their Facebook/tiktok/twitter accounts and are discovering libraries and printed books. As a conscious decision. Not all of them, but quite a lot and it's growing.1/3
       
 (DIR) Post #B1jOyY0wJeHHdjOhl2 by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-12-29T05:46:56Z
       
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       @jwildeboer Me too. I'm meeting more people simply unwilling to take part on this technology charade. Even I have chopped most services off my phone, literally nothing on the cloud, manual backup of contacts, and default phone state is location and Bluetooth off.  And I'm using airplane mode about 1/3rd time. Saves a ton of battery and network too. The only "social" notifications are projecting and mild beep for texts. It's all too much. And all too exploitive and so much of it was habituation. Two weeks ago I had a fairly profound experience with a bunch of mixed young and old zine and music producing people, almost none of it produced on or for the web, too little use, top complex, top expensive, and now censorious. And he's my phone and computer users also like your observation. This Internet iteration is indeed collapsing. Good riddance.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1jOyf562alJYeOci0 by jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
       2025-12-28T20:31:54Z
       
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       They are not anti-technology. They have gaming PCs and quite some of them are picking up software development, 3D printing etc. But they have recognised how mobile devices are sucking up their time, energy and attention span. They also have lost trust in social media and are aware that every move is being analysed. In a world that needs us all to move around with open eyes and ears because we have real world problems to solve. I am learning from them, not the other way round. Good!2/3
       
 (DIR) Post #B1jOynu5EuIgv6JSIC by jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
       2025-12-28T20:41:18Z
       
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       It's not a coordinated movement. It's leaderless (for now, and I hope it stays that way). More a set of shared principles and desires that is continuously evolving in many directions. Mistakes are made. Discussed. Typically in person (and sober, alcohol consumption is not "cool" anymore ;) Oh, and saying "I asked ChatGPT" will not go over well :)3/3
       
 (DIR) Post #B1jvZwdWvjf9FjK9WC by gilester45@twit.social
       2025-12-29T09:36:03Z
       
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       @jwildeboer Good on them.Increasingly, many aspects of modern life assume smartphone access. So, completely ditching them, while laudable from a self-health stance, to me, feels like creating unnecessary friction in one's life.However I fully agree with avoiding the tide of enshittified SM slop. My kids are gen alpha, too young for SM but old enough to be asking. We have no plans to let them have it any time soon.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1jvZxwi3ubBJVIz3I by lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br
       2025-12-29T11:48:58Z
       
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       that friction is artificial, and needs to be pushed back.  it's not reasonable for businesses and governments to assume everyone has to carry a tracking device on them.CC: @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
       
 (DIR) Post #B1kbVZUtDSIuP5sbWi by rgo@masto.pt
       2025-12-29T13:31:24Z
       
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       @jwildeboer Switching to dumb phones sounds tempting til you realize Linux phones could actually fix the problem better.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1kbVaYpGJ2xhajGIi by wjmaggos@liberal.city
       2025-12-29T19:41:43Z
       
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       @rgo @jwildeboeryes and the problem isn't usually the tech but the corporations attached. a world of decentralized social media would be better informed and democratic than one still dominated by the corporate press and advertisers etc.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1lBkhrRzx2r2NwsQy by eldersea@expressional.social
       2025-12-28T23:00:15Z
       
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       @jwildeboerOne of my concerns around dumb phones is the lack of ability to use something like Signal for its privacy. I may be uninformed here, but SMS is absolutely useless from a privacy perspective, and these days, that's a hard nope.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1lBkjRI8BJBvpj0wC by lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br
       2025-12-30T02:26:17Z
       
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       signal on proprietary operating systems can only give you as much privacy as the controllers of the proprietary operating systems will allow.  hold on to the dumb phone and, where privacy matters, use a computing device that actually stands a chance of respecting your privacyCC: @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net