Post B1Pn355BYRFQd27mc4 by tg9541@mas.to
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 (DIR) Post #B1PjURdDQW3IZ4pnOa by matthew@social.retroedge.tech
       2025-12-19T18:02:35.143665Z
       
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       "In my mind, the still low price of DDR3 adds support for my belief that consumers have no understanding of the fact that perfectly good used computers are available to anyone who is fed up with the high prices of new computers and parts. They don't seem to understand that they don't need a new computer to surf the Internet, write a letter, or talk to their friends on social media. They can do all of that easily with a good 8-12 year old laptop [or desktop computer] running Linux."  -- https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/parts-price-increases.html#memory #linux
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Pk3mdfJXGXqwtame by gemelen@mammut.moe
       2025-12-19T18:08:02Z
       
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       @matthew True.However, I saw an increase of the price of DDR3 ECC on ebay. Just an anecdata, could be a fluke, could be a speculation.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Pk4qPmlBNZr0uRJQ by matthew@social.retroedge.tech
       2025-12-19T18:09:13.304082Z
       
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       Oh, yeah, all memory has gone up a bit in price. Just DDR5 the most, DDR4 up a lot, but not as much as DDR5 and DDR3 still decent prices but have increased.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PlR4uVe8mD8VRiCG by tg9541@mas.to
       2025-12-19T18:20:53Z
       
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       @matthew You're right, consumers have no understanding at all. "It is very easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of [their products] by the sense of achievement you get from getting them to work at all. In other words - and this is the rock solid principle on which the whole of the Corporation's Galaxy-wide success is founded - their fundamental design flaws are completely hidden by their superficial design flaws."Douglas Adams in So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PlfjtY417UIkzHOq by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
       2025-12-19T18:27:04.374203Z
       
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       I bought my current laptop a shocking 7 years ago in 2018, and what's kinda nuts is it's even still just fine for most gaming. I need to take it apart and clean out the fans and repaste the heatsinks, but that's it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Pn355BYRFQd27mc4 by tg9541@mas.to
       2025-12-19T18:40:53Z
       
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       @matthew Besides, my new computer is a 9 year old Lenovo T460 running Debian Trixie. My Lenovo T510, 15 years old, also running Trixie, is still good for daily use (even if it's a bit bulky and the power consumption is higher).
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Pn6iFwMgXezXt37A by matthew@social.retroedge.tech
       2025-12-19T18:43:10.191318Z
       
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       Excellent!
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PqN8YIfEDb2kzv6m by tg9541@mas.to
       2025-12-19T19:18:05Z
       
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       @matthew I've read your article; a few observations:* a used business-grade laptop is faster, cheaper, and longer lasting than most new consumer grade laptop* used business-grade thin clients, or compact desktop computers are very cheap* an somewhat recent i3 or i5 is better than an old i7 (e.g., gen 1 vs. gen 6)
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PqNA60vMmRpbmMIS by matthew@social.retroedge.tech
       2025-12-19T19:19:34.871079Z
       
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       I agree on all your points. Sorry I did not make clear that the article is not mine, but I quoted and linked to it. I just agreed with the general sentiment and wanted to share.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1QWKU30U7JiuqmIAC by Dan_Ramos@noauthority.social
       2025-12-19T21:07:13Z
       
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       @matthew My main system is an ASUS ROG with an Intel i7-6700HQ and an nVidia GTX970m with 24GB RAM... and for the things *I* do simultaneously in Linux (including browsing with many tabs, many terminals, graphics editing/viewing with LARGE directories full of images, virtual machines occasionally, etc.)... I had increased my laptop's SSD from the original 1TB to 4 TB (and kept a 1TB spinning drive) and really wanted to upgrade the 24GB SODIMM DDR4 from the 3x8GB sticks to 4x16GB.  This sucks.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1QWKVXsunbvYuESvo by Dan_Ramos@noauthority.social
       2025-12-19T21:09:41Z
       
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       @matthew BUT.. I ended up biting the bullet and just bought a 64GB kit for about $400.  I figure it's a rip-off, but it's a FAR cheaper price I'll pay now than into next year and later for a long time (from the looks of it), or maybe not ever find them at all.This old system that I bought in 2015 has been VERY upgradable and still serves extremely well for playing and working.  Even at the $400 price to upgrade RAM, it's cheaper than a new one and works GREAT with Linux!
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Rzb3nwfSFukEhjbE by m3tti@functional.cafe
       2025-12-20T20:03:15Z
       
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       @matthew mine is an refurbished latitude e5740 or whatever. But you know i'll get back to lenovo after that one. But all my hardware is refurbished since 15 years already. Linux makes it possible. And you know i'm a developer and those are my workhorses. I never had the urge to have somethibg faster no clue why.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1S2VUzQypZ7BR7N9U by bonifartius@noauthority.social
       2025-12-20T20:45:09Z
       
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       @matthew i never have bought a new laptop. just doesn't make sense, same as buying a new car. both drop half of their value in short time. when i get a refurbished business laptop anything strangely broken would have shown already and they are dirt cheap for what they are. you can have a good machine for the price of 64G DDR5.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1S3x5RpdcN21r7TVI by h4890@alive.bar
       2025-12-20T21:01:18Z
       
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       @m3tti @matthew For me there is no point in having a fast laptop. I work mostly with technical sales and some general IT education and if I need heavy lifting, I just rent a couple of cloud servers. The laptop itself, is just used for writing, light browsing, an occasional video or two, and some light scripting. As for my next laptop, I'm contemplating a Lenovo T14s. My asus has developed keyboard problems, and I'm starting to think that that is the price one has to pay for thin and light.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1WIGCDsqg9YXARQC8 by matthew@social.retroedge.tech
       2025-12-22T22:00:29.413142Z
       
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       I just talked with a reseller of server memory. PC3 memory, quite old, has also increased in price. That's for 16GB modules, though.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1sf9LWISNPdlRsIt6 by Vonskinnback@mastodon.social
       2026-01-02T12:43:09Z
       
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       @tg9541 @matthew I bought a Lenovo small form factor i5 6th gen with 16 GB memory and half a terabit SSD for £100, runs an absolute treat...