Post B1LagxtJdSN1s6Q9Dc by DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange
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(DIR) Post #B1LagwU6rgc7VdcVI8 by alberto_cottica@mastodon.green
2025-12-17T08:39:42Z
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It's great we are in the middle of a browsers war, reminds me of 1993. So, what do y'all recommend I use, and why? Mac, Ubuntu, Android. Happy to read, within reason. Thanks!
(DIR) Post #B1LagxtJdSN1s6Q9Dc by DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange
2025-12-17T11:39:24Z
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@alberto_cottica I've been equally happy with LibreWolf (privacy oriented Firefox fork) and Ungoogled-Chromium (privacy oriented Chromium fork).My biggest concern with the Firefox forks is that I find it difficult to believe the various forks (e.g.,.LibreWolf, Zen) have the resources to maintain development of the full browser if Mozilla dies, and Mozilla is already in a difficult financial situation and has less room to make costly business mistakes than Google. I vaguely recall seeing a thread on Bluesky maybe a year ago suggesting that developing and maintaining a major browser costs on the order of $100M/year. Most of these browser fork projects just don't have those kinds of resources. They're mostly just customized builds from upstream and aren't in the business of maintaining the full browser.I hate monocultures, but my personal sense is that Chrome is in a healthier state from a business perspective. Google is a much bigger company with a lot more room to make mistakes. Additionally, other companies with deep pockets (Microsoft, Apple) have an interest in keeping Webkit/Blink-derived browsers alive, even if Google gets wobbly.Ungoogled-Chromium is a fork of Chromium that simply rips out the Google tracking, similar to what LibreWolf does for Firefox. It does have some issues. You have to jump through hoops to get extensions to work. But otherwise it seems to be a reasonable experience. Other folks that I trust love Vivaldi, in case you're looking for something more polished. I'm just personally reluctant to commit to anything that isn't open source.Android is a little trickier. I really like Firefox on Android because of its extension support. I don't believe Chrome for Android supports extensions yet.
(DIR) Post #B1Lagyszw7i6xPHPMW by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2025-12-17T18:05:08Z
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@DaveMWilburnThanks for that! The browser was is not good, it's a terrible thing, and that $100M a year is the front of the battle and deep pockets will win it. Cleverness and intent will be buried. Only entities with that resource will win that war. @alberto_cottica