Post B1HAls17Wmxdf1uU0O by newt@stereophonic.space
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(DIR) Post #B1H10dHzZKl4mkCb1k by kaia@brotka.st
2025-12-15T13:06:26.889091Z
17 likes, 10 repeats
enjoy your Windows 11 bloatware with 8GB of RAM :cat_ahaha:
(DIR) Post #B1H18uLc1vTC0WqEOO by gray@clubcyberia.co
2025-12-15T13:08:01.254549Z
3 likes, 2 repeats
@kaia stick windows 11 25h2 uses like 9GB of ram at the desktop so good luck
(DIR) Post #B1H19LaQkwMkUIywjo by twinspin6@outerheaven.club
2025-12-15T13:08:01.223481Z
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@kaia fucking hell
(DIR) Post #B1H1ABiMwfc69z61Ka by twinspin6@outerheaven.club
2025-12-15T13:08:10.348027Z
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@kaia it's like a comedy show
(DIR) Post #B1H1TYP4oSnK1wJ4V6 by oblomov@sociale.network
2025-12-15T13:11:23Z
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@kaia oh, fantastic. The AI craze has made every single application massively more memory hungry because of features nobody wants but the devs need to show everywhere to reach KPI, but at the same time the massive price hike due to the shortage caused by datacenter focus makes high-memory devices more scarce. Capitalism at its best.
(DIR) Post #B1H1ohrmpBjVScp0lM by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2025-12-15T13:15:35.298536Z
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@kaia Ah yes, performing like windows vista laptops with 1GB RAM.
(DIR) Post #B1H1uKQYsqKEVFlhHU by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world
2025-12-15T13:16:37.197726Z
2 likes, 1 repeats
@gray @kaia gates' dalits deserve it
(DIR) Post #B1H2FRgR6JoB5YGMG8 by cell@shitposter.world
2025-12-15T13:20:26.085629Z
4 likes, 1 repeats
@kaia the laptop i bought in 2012 came with 8GB of RAM :scremcat:
(DIR) Post #B1H3Kx128TwDfL5Ot6 by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-12-15T13:32:33.163226Z
4 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia Windows users must be made to suffer. It is their destiny.
(DIR) Post #B1H3O1dDQlNIqmPZmS by kaia@brotka.st
2025-12-15T13:33:05.586953Z
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@newt year of the Linux laptop
(DIR) Post #B1H3PBiLQeG6PXMgls by mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click
2025-12-15T13:33:21.242080Z
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@gray @kaia macbook sales gonna soar.
(DIR) Post #B1H3QzQ86kEkrThivg by genmaicha@stereophonic.space
2025-12-15T13:33:43.800903Z
4 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia hoping the RAM shortage kills javascript
(DIR) Post #B1H3i4XWKOO7f4J4yW by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-12-15T13:36:36.436758Z
8 likes, 0 repeats
@kaia somehow we live in the world were Linux has become much more useable than Windows, but for the sole reason that the latter has been made much worse. Intentionally.It's the Gaben way of doing things. Just sit tight and wait for the competition to blow themselves up.
(DIR) Post #B1H3xrwAx0oZD2N5pA by sun@shitposter.world
2025-12-15T13:39:39.685595Z
1 likes, 2 repeats
@kaia I was hoping to upgrade to a new macbook pro with 128GB of RAM in January but guess that's out
(DIR) Post #B1H4VFGxDDnb8d0Oxc by cell@shitposter.world
2025-12-15T13:45:41.783266Z
2 likes, 1 repeats
@sun @kaia what do you mean by the time this is through you'll be making a steal buying (soldered) RAM from Apple
(DIR) Post #B1H4b9cZ8YYbLdvpSa by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-12-15T13:46:45.070193Z
2 likes, 1 repeats
@sun @kaia Finally Apple RAM prices feel justified.
(DIR) Post #B1H5sz7B2OeVvjJelc by gray@clubcyberia.co
2025-12-15T14:01:09.172912Z
4 likes, 3 repeats
@phnt @kaia @sun even Dell is worse than Apple now. Here are the RAM upgrade prices on their 16 Pro:
(DIR) Post #B1H6BRhDVnE3mmyalk by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-12-15T14:04:31.333363Z
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@gray @kaia @sun Not fully yet, but the frequency is probably higher on the crapbook air.(US prices)Macbook Air 15"Macboook Pro 16"
(DIR) Post #B1H74hkBY1GlU6iL2m by coolboymew@shitposter.world
2025-12-15T14:14:30.683438Z
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@kaia it's gonna be completely not usable. You definitively cannot have a good experience under 16gb nowadays
(DIR) Post #B1H78uqEnEBzGSYMDI by condret@shitposter.world
2025-12-15T14:15:16.912348Z
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@kaia the year of the linux laptop is here
(DIR) Post #B1H7G7O0YCD8CLmcls by Inginsub@clubcyberia.co
2025-12-15T14:16:33.265602Z
1 likes, 1 repeats
@coolboymew @kaia tbh that's also true for linux, if you want to use a web browser
(DIR) Post #B1H7PYpXsoppvAANPc by coolboymew@shitposter.world
2025-12-15T14:18:16.032453Z
1 likes, 1 repeats
@Inginsub @kaia All computers, all of them
(DIR) Post #B1H7nW7HcoNuSCt0jI by anokasion@hidamari.apartments
2025-12-15T14:22:37.201346Z
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@kaia wow, using MX Linux with 16GB of RAM DDR4, I feel privileged now...
(DIR) Post #B1H8b3VaGNYcCssHT6 by Jain@blob.cat
2025-12-15T14:31:32.938564Z
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@kaia :blobcatlaugh:
(DIR) Post #B1H8mK94kPt0zUifvk by nimrod@shitposter.world
2025-12-15T14:33:35.620057Z
5 likes, 2 repeats
@gray @kaia @phnt @sun searching for recipes on youtube how my ancient ancestors made RAM from scratch.
(DIR) Post #B1H8rya7plUHqk4DgW by Natanox@chaos.social
2025-12-15T14:23:24Z
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@newt @kaia That understates all the work that was put into all things Linux in the recent years.
(DIR) Post #B1H8s0DVkoaQvBVBiK by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-12-15T14:34:21.339936Z
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@Natanox @kaia yes, furiously rewriting everything from scratch three times and reinventing a dozen wheels over took a lot of effort.I'm still puzzled about how exactly KDE6 is better than KDE3 or GNOME 50 is better than GNOME 2. As far as I am aware, nobody has ever gathered UX metrics of any kind in these projects, i.e. how much effort it takes for an average user to perform daily tasks. And something tells me, the improvement would be marginal.The only real improvement in the recent years was drivers support and vidya. That is actually awesome.
(DIR) Post #B1H8vgACFpPPsvhlCa by mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click
2025-12-15T14:35:16.209895Z
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@newt @kaia @Natanox gnome 49 is great, very ergonomic, comfy to use. mate is usable but not as nice.
(DIR) Post #B1H90UnVwJvS5AOMrI by thatbrickster@shitposter.world
2025-12-15T14:36:09.844775Z
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@kaia SK Hynix reckon the 'shortage' will last until 2028. It's the lockdown PC era all over again.
(DIR) Post #B1H92X8SDdXhub9rzU by mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click
2025-12-15T14:36:29.668484Z
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@gray @kaia @phnt @sun this was one of the things that put me off, if i wanted a laptop that was as nice as a macbook air, I'd have to pay the same or (more often) more than a macbook air.
(DIR) Post #B1H92gkiSkUpjs83NY by thatbrickster@shitposter.world
2025-12-15T14:36:33.787866Z
2 likes, 1 repeats
@condret old thinkpads my beloved@kaia
(DIR) Post #B1H94wPHEQX4rvAuOm by mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click
2025-12-15T14:36:51.475205Z
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@phnt @kaia @gray @sun not just frequency/mt, but also lower power usage.
(DIR) Post #B1HAh29wOLlHfVjI6S by dictatordave@poa.st
2025-12-15T14:55:03.810061Z
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@phnt @gray @kaia @sun why not just get a chipset that uses ddr4, there are plenty and you have had options for i9 processors foreverand you dont need that much ram to begin with, we used to make this mistake buying cad machines with like 128 gb of ram and shit, its pointless, you wont use that much ever and if you are, then buying on the retail market isn't where you should be looking anyway
(DIR) Post #B1HAls17Wmxdf1uU0O by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-12-15T14:55:43.161222Z
2 likes, 1 repeats
@mischievoustomato @kaia @Natanox sorry, sad virgins aren't entitled to an opinion on Linux
(DIR) Post #B1HBgKoldOJRCY3YJM by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-12-15T15:06:06.688972Z
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@dictatordave @kaia @gray @sun ddr4 production is being quickly phased out as is usual in the memory field. So expect ddr4 prices to also grow a lot like all previous generations did.24 GB on Apple devices is basically a requirement as the memory is shared and new applications eat through memory. Win11 on 16GB laptops (also shared memory) is usable but at the verge of being too annoying, because Win11 eats memory much more than 10 did. If you plan to run Linux, the reasonable usability limit is around 8GB instead. Below that you have to start making compromises.
(DIR) Post #B1HC0DS2jTlK97uJZg by mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click
2025-12-15T15:09:27.028451Z
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@newt @kaia @Natanox i am though.
(DIR) Post #B1HC0kFmm4Z7sfQUYC by bajax@baj.ax
2025-12-15T15:09:49.465378Z
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@phnt @kaia @gray @dictatordave @sun is there a remote possibilitiy that this situation will cause app (intentionally using that word) developers to think about memory footprint in a way they haven't before?
(DIR) Post #B1HCCRh9bIEvnUo5Me by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-12-15T15:11:53.091953Z
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@bajax @kaia @gray @dictatordave @sun Hahahaha, that was a good joke. Just buy a new computer and consoom.
(DIR) Post #B1HCucozasyZ2yXWLo by dictatordave@poa.st
2025-12-15T15:19:55.765677Z
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@phnt @bajax @kaia @gray @sun i'm saying the absolute opposite of that thoi'm saying do the fucking hobby right and do it the cheapest way possible, like how we did in the 90ssqueezing every bit of power out of what we could affordthis bitching over pricy bullshit is just rich kids whining
(DIR) Post #B1HDgw2LSGEWXgoyTQ by nicholas@aklp.club
2025-12-15T15:28:35.364907Z
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Glad you're enjoying your system; don't ever change.For my milage: I put it on an old laptop I let a 7 year old play with like a Fisher-Price Baby's First Laptop, and that by all appearances seems to have been the gnome team's target audience. Maybe that's what you mean by "comfy"? Imo it's only usable for adults with approximately 1,000 extentions installed. Which, kudos for having an extension library, but that's not an excuse to design and ship a wish.com ios for your default desktop environment.
(DIR) Post #B1HDiFvQzlQcW0Dc5Q by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-12-15T15:28:51.216834Z
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@dictatordave @bajax @kaia @gray @sun I agree, but that is something that will not happen on a mass scale. Programmers cannot write optimized code these days. That's the sad reality. Everything is a pile of JS masquerading as a desktop app eating gigabytes just doing nothing in the background.You _can_ use very low memory devices, but it requires making a lots of compromises. Like moving everything possible to TUI apps, using alternative frontends to most web sites,... Corporate will just continue to make their slop like they do now. And if a computer becomes too expensive for the average consumer, they'll move those apps to the cloud™ for a subscription fee of course. (That's the dystopian future I expect.)
(DIR) Post #B1HDsSEQ608dZtxhQG by bajax@baj.ax
2025-12-15T15:30:44.142464Z
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@phnt @kaia @gray @dictatordave @sun do you think it was orchestrated for that purpose or just a happy accident?
(DIR) Post #B1HEXooZ2OXBUUaljU by dictatordave@poa.st
2025-12-15T15:38:13.128856Z
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@phnt @bajax @kaia @gray @sun i dont disagree with you about the absolute shit state of programming and computing in generalits slop all the way down and the resource requirements prove its all a fucking joke
(DIR) Post #B1HEy2t3L6GWfHCJTU by Inginsub@clubcyberia.co
2025-12-15T15:42:55.823004Z
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@phnt @bajax @kaia @gray @dictatordave @sun> Programmers cannot write optimized code these days“cannot” as in “not allowed”. Everyone needs results as quickly as possible, and if you don’t shit out code on time, you’ll be replaced with an indian, who will later get replaced with an indian using copilot.
(DIR) Post #B1HF2sTvSAQ9qDkTxY by dictatordave@poa.st
2025-12-15T15:43:49.888550Z
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@Inginsub @phnt @bajax @kaia @gray @sun fuck it, i'll be playing red alert in dos box if yall need me
(DIR) Post #B1HGCOLOSWCXDlrHFo by Natanox@chaos.social
2025-12-15T15:46:44Z
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@nicholas @kaia @newt Credit where credit's due, Gnome got a high level of integration. Meaning that, after you add your Emails, Nextcloud etc. in the Online accounts, you got the whole suite of tools actually working with them (Contacts, Calendar, File Explorer with Cloud Storage access, etc.). KDE's attempt at it is rather pitiful.Meaning you might as well skip Gnome and use e.g. Cinnamon, who use the Gnome Online Accounts backend in their DE with objectively better UX. :thisisfine:
(DIR) Post #B1HGCPbNmYaL7eLYoa by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-12-15T15:56:33.168444Z
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@Natanox @nicholas @kaia GNOME doesn't support system tray without an extension. Because reasons. I'm sorry, I cannot take this piece of software seriously.
(DIR) Post #B1HGkQzl6oDNHyyJ72 by Natanox@chaos.social
2025-12-15T16:00:54Z
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@newt @nicholas @kaia Yeah, it's bad. And since Extensions patch stuff right into the gnome-shell, which doesn't run independently from the compositor anymore, you *have* to introduce instability to get the minimum viable set of functions. Yet they refuse to include support for "classic" tray icon backends in their System Menu approach of displaying background processes, because reasons.Every time I see a kitted Gnome desktop on r/unixporn I just know that thing will crash like hell.
(DIR) Post #B1HGkSNtwX7Xb9H6Nk by Natanox@chaos.social
2025-12-15T16:01:25Z
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@newt @nicholas @kaia …but that's why you go for either KDE (if you need modern features) or Cinnamon (if you want ease of use and good integration). :p
(DIR) Post #B1HHI8j1XgfaTJDSC0 by amoonrabbit@mk.udongein.reisen
2025-12-15T16:08:54.340Z
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@kaia@brotka.st 8GB laptops will be the exact price point, or more, of what the 16GB ones were before.
(DIR) Post #B1HHwqzcNLezLgOLTc by kaia@brotka.st
2025-12-15T16:16:15.196309Z
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@amoonrabbit then they will become even more expensive due to lacking volume
(DIR) Post #B1HI24TveSpKdE3c48 by nicholas@aklp.club
2025-12-15T16:17:14.743455Z
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This is interesting, that is not a feature I have used. I have spent the last decade unwinding similar integrations with Google/Microsoft, it had not occurred to me to try adding them back in either gnome or kde, but I can see how that could be cool in a foss implementation 👍
(DIR) Post #B1HI5G3X4jMPOhEKPY by amoonrabbit@mk.udongein.reisen
2025-12-15T16:17:48.652Z
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@kaia@brotka.st Microsoft pushes their consumer VDI as a solution, just as intended
(DIR) Post #B1HININjAPoJp5HF6e by kaia@brotka.st
2025-12-15T16:21:02.120154Z
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@amoonrabbit so they can steal all data, also all input, each keyboard input
(DIR) Post #B1HJNxlTPECi7lGYzY by mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click
2025-12-15T16:32:23.843961Z
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@nicholas @kaia @Natanox @newt not really? i use 5 extensions, none of which change the core workflow. I just do what i gotta do on each workspace, be it file mgmt, chat/daemon apps, audio production, programming or gaming
(DIR) Post #B1HJQUu5ARNRTvV9hw by mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click
2025-12-15T16:32:52.650650Z
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@newt @nicholas @kaia @Natanox you don't need system trays rrally
(DIR) Post #B1HJT6OSkeLGKlxBui by mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click
2025-12-15T16:33:07.050253Z
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@Inginsub @kaia @coolboymew you can cheat kinda with zswap/zram
(DIR) Post #B1HJfLP4lqoiMT4tkG by newt@stereophonic.space
2025-12-15T16:35:14.366715Z
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@mischievoustomato @nicholas @kaia @Natanox yes, I do.
(DIR) Post #B1HK00iWsQWeHl21Pk by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-12-15T16:39:18.394576Z
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@bajax @kaia @gray @dictatordave @sun I wouldn't call it orchestrated intentionally _yet_. But I wouldn't be the first call it that either.
(DIR) Post #B1HKm2juf36kSQaB1M by pettanko@tsundere.love
2025-12-15T16:39:35.193052Z
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@mischievoustomato @nicholas @kaia @Natanox @newt I mean, it depends on what programs you're using, they're the ones that usually decide.
(DIR) Post #B1HKm3RA4FhccYoiQq by mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click
2025-12-15T16:47:54.604522Z
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@pettanko @nicholas @kaia @Natanox @newt i think steam tries to show a tray icon on gnome but can't really (and just runs in the background unless Exited), but that's the only app that does that for me, even Telegram doesn't anymore.
(DIR) Post #B1HLNWVOxGNdUPfP3Q by pettanko@tsundere.love
2025-12-15T16:53:09.710846Z
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@mischievoustomato @nicholas @kaia @Natanox @newt Most bittorrent programs do I'm sure.
(DIR) Post #B1HLNXtBoJ0DmTnuls by mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click
2025-12-15T16:54:44.539400Z
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@pettanko @nicholas @kaia @Natanox @newt I use Fragments, doesn't use a tray icon, i just shove it to the workspaces to the left of the main one I use when I use it, otherwise it's not open.
(DIR) Post #B1HMb2YpBZ54crHFPk by pettanko@tsundere.love
2025-12-15T17:07:33.553042Z
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@mischievoustomato @nicholas @kaia @Natanox @newt I mean I use Fragments too but it's sort of the exception to the more popular ones.
(DIR) Post #B1HMb3wy1HzEw1a2gS by mischievoustomato@0.5dollah.click
2025-12-15T17:07:59.971878Z
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@pettanko @nicholas @kaia @Natanox @newt guess so, I can't care about the other apps I don't use.
(DIR) Post #B1Hhv4CYtO2GXnFqRk by r000t@ligma.pro
2025-12-15T19:25:05Z
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@kaia8GB of ram wasn't enough for me to run a machine that literally only existed to run a single video game.No browser. No discord. No special keyboard software. One video game and an OS to run it on. 8GB wasn't enough.And half of these laptops are going to be swapping to spinning disks because NAND expensive now too
(DIR) Post #B1Hq5ovYoy3XzTwPUu by mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world
2025-12-15T20:02:48.059656Z
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@gray @kaia People with such latops has their SSD being destroyed because of swap. People then don't understand why it only lasted 1 year.
(DIR) Post #B1Hx5Fqlw8gysbNXRQ by per_sonne@ciberlandia.pt
2025-12-15T23:56:04Z
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@kaia * laughs in Linux, barely using 2Gb of RAM *
(DIR) Post #B1ICb9U8dURXiZSYzY by gray@clubcyberia.co
2025-12-16T02:51:00.019496Z
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@flyingcakes @kaia I’m not sure. I bet copilot eats a lot of that
(DIR) Post #B1Io1WWVIeDF0E0KMy by evgandr@mastodon.bsd.cafe
2025-12-16T09:49:02Z
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@kaia Lol, looks like my #Thinkpad X220 from 2009 has more RAM for now, than modern laptops :drgn_aww: LMAO
(DIR) Post #B1JloDiftX02AYBa9w by per_sonne@ciberlandia.pt
2025-12-16T11:11:09Z
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@insane @kaia * me laughing using Firefox reader mode feature and giving bloated websites the middle finger *
(DIR) Post #B1JloFCqMqj4mPJBp2 by cy@chaos.social
2025-12-16T20:40:28Z
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@per_sonne @insane @kaia wait till mozilla’s new ceo crams more ai into firefox