Post B1F3jswe1GNZxp0FFI by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
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 (DIR) Post #B1EWRq40hD8tKPEeOm by librewolf@chaos.social
       2025-12-14T08:11:14Z
       
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       As there seems to have been recent confusion about this, just a quick "official" toot to then pin: we haven't and won't support "generative AI" related stuff in LibreWolf. If you see some features like that (like Perplexity search recently, or the link preview feature now) it is solely because it "slipped through". As soon as we become aware of something like this / it gets reported to us, we will remove it ASAP.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1EYQt9nuPnMXbcV6G by mrclon@mastodon.ml
       2025-12-14T08:36:54Z
       
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       Is there full human readable list of FireFox AI feature @librewolf disable? Or list of all disabled features
       
 (DIR) Post #B1EuVAY7NwWodERHGq by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-14T12:44:09.863Z
       
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       Cool, when start making your software apolitical, I'll reconsider running it again.@librewolf@chaos.social
       
 (DIR) Post #B1F1fmaNWLZTAtVJui by cf@todon.eu
       2025-12-14T13:55:02Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf https://codeberg.org/librewolf/issues/issues/1919#issuecomment-2301726
       
 (DIR) Post #B1F1fntYeWVVEfU9Ro by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-14T14:04:30.199Z
       
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       I am glad that regressions in Firefox is getting patched out of Librewolf, but previous statements made by the lead developer didn't sit well with me. As such, I don't plan on using Librewolf until the project can make a commitment to remaining apolitical. I'm all for inclusivity but believe that it should not come at the expense of other demographics.@cf@todon.eu @librewolf@chaos.social
       
 (DIR) Post #B1F3jsBqpEwtch6sJE by cf@todon.eu
       2025-12-14T14:21:10Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf LOL, LMAO even. Way to show you have no clue what you're talking about, that's just not how inclusivity is conceptualized by anyone other than privileged people who have no clue what being marginalized is like and why that happens and see equity as an attack on their privilege.Get over yourself. Read up on the curb cut effect or something. Not interested in continuing this conversation.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1F3jswe1GNZxp0FFI by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-14T14:27:40.961Z
       
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       When institutions prioritize representation using identity criteria, they’re making trade-offs. Who gets to decides which groups get prioritised when interests conflict?There should be none, fullstop. Inclusion is about giving everyone the equal opportunity of participation regardless of their background and circumstances. If you can't agree with me on that fundamental fact then what you want is not inclusion but rather to lord over the privileged that have supposedly oppressed you.@cf@todon.eu @librewolf@chaos.social
       
 (DIR) Post #B1F59fsbJmHQvTyN7Y by aenea@neopaquita.es
       2025-12-14T14:35:16Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf so you agree that deciding to use AI or not is a political decision. Which side of politics is AI supporting then?
       
 (DIR) Post #B1F59h0R888sQ4e8yO by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-14T14:43:30.679Z
       
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       It's not so much political than it is obnoxious to have shoehorned into the software you use without much of a say as to whether you want it or not. My previous point is unrelated to AI but still important  which is why I felt the need to raise it. I don't really think the software we use should be taking a political stance on any particular matters and instead remain strictly apolitical and utilitarian for the purpose of remaining reputable, reliable, stable and safe for everyone to use and not just a narrow demographic. I don't mind that people working on a project have their views, but they should definitely not be using something like a browser as a platform for them. Something that I have regrettably seen Librewolf do in the past. Though I am painfully aware I've done the very same thing Mozilla has by shoehorning something, somewhere it has no business being. I don't believe we can enact any change without raising awareness on issues that I feel compromise the values that I previously mentioned.@aenea@neopaquita.es @librewolf@chaos.social
       
 (DIR) Post #B1F5MHKbtnk2YW5Gi0 by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-14T14:45:50.517Z
       
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       It's not so much political than it is obnoxious to have shoehorned into the software you use without much of a say as to whether you want it or not. My previous point is unrelated to AI but still important which is why I felt the need to raise it. I don't really think the software we use should be taking a political stance on any particular matters and instead remain strictly apolitical and utilitarian for the purpose of remaining reputable, reliable, stable and safe for everyone to use regardless of their demographic. I don't mind that people working on a project have their views, but they should definitely not be using something like a browser as a platform for them. Something that I have regrettably seen Librewolf do in the past. Though I am painfully aware I've done the very same thing Mozilla has by shoehorning something, somewhere it has no business being. I don't believe we can enact any change without raising awareness on issues that I feel compromise the values that I previously mentioned.@aenea@neopaquita.es @librewolf@chaos.social
       
 (DIR) Post #B1FV0EZw3DjESIOw0u by Stomata@social.linux.pizza
       2025-12-14T19:33:09Z
       
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       @prinlu @mortal_engine @librewolf i would say ironfox https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox
       
 (DIR) Post #B1FfPctHnMpGdhCOVk by librewolf@chaos.social
       2025-12-14T17:30:02Z
       
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       @Saorsa cool. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.Won't change.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1FgqteRggksOVpCKW by jrdepriest@infosec.exchange
       2025-12-14T21:45:54Z
       
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       @mrclon @librewolf This is from October https://flamedfury.com/posts/disable-ai-in-firefox/Below is a list of the “AI” features you can disable in about:config, along with a short explanation of what I understand each one does. Enjoy.| Setting | What it controls || --- | --- || browser.ml.enable | Master switch for Firefox’s built-in machine-learning platform. Turning this off disables all AI features. || browser.ml.chat.enabled | Enables the AI chatbot integration. || browser.ml.chat.sidebar | Shows the AI chat panel in the sidebar. || browser.ml.chat.shortcuts | Lets you trigger chat from selected text or shortcuts. || browser.ml.chat.page | Powers the on-page chat menu when you highlight text. || browser.ml.chat.page.footerBadge | Displays the floating badge at the bottom of the page. || browser.ml.chat.page.menuBadge | Shows the “Ask AI” badge in the page menu. || browser.ml.chat.menu | Adds “Chat about this” to right-click menus. || browser.ml.linkPreview.enabled | Generates AI-based link previews and suggestions. || extensions.ml.enabled | Allows browser extensions to use Firefox’s ML API. || browser.ml.pageAssist.enabled | Runs the AI “page assist” summariser/assistant. || browser.tabs.groups.smart.enabled | Uses AI to automatically group and label your tabs. || browser.tabs.groups.smart.userEnable | Lets users manually toggle the smart tab groups feature. |But it's missing these:pdfjs.enableAltTextModelDownloadpdfjs.enableGuessAltText
       
 (DIR) Post #B1FnHaGiSYN3p7pmhU by apophis@brain.worm.pink
       2025-12-14T22:55:43.436777Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf the "other demographics" can go live in russia
       
 (DIR) Post #B1FnTjJEfko1Kznvfc by jrdepriest@infosec.exchange
       2025-12-14T22:01:32Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf this is a stupid fucking take to have in this day in age. For many people, the fact that they exist at all has become "political". Any business or software that says they are avoiding politics upholds the status quo of those in power 100% of the time! Almost every project right now that is proudly apolitical is thriving with Nazis, hatred, and white supremacy while simultaneously silencing the voices of the marginalized for being "too political". It's like focusing on tone over content: it only benefits the oppressor.You are either full of privilege and willfully blind and ignorant or a troll. Either way, you are supporting fascists, whether accidentally or on purpose does not matter. You are part of the problem.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1FnTkGn6KRcJhfUUy by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-14T23:00:10.267Z
       
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       Just curious as to whether you've seen any of my previous post(s) in the thread. Should probably fill you in on where I stand. I don't believe software should be weaponized in politics by either side of the spectrum and that claiming "Well, they're doing it." is a flimsy excuse. People these days seem to see fascists everywhere to the point where they can't tell the truth apart from their own fiction. Now, I won't tell you that there are none channer or right-adjacent communities around software out there, there are. But they are a far smaller minority than you may think compared to the progressives which predominantly make up the Linux software stack.Even then, people in charge of software and products have recently taken a position politically out of a necessity from the growing concern of political activism hijacking what was once a meritocracy based community of anonymous hobbyists. If there are spaces which have framed themselves as being "anti-woke" or "apolitical" then it is as a direct consequence of people like yourself who feel the need to use software as their platform for ideological wars.Stop it, you are actively undermining the trust and integrity of the software and communities you participate in by making them explicitly political and thereby feeding back into the loop.@jrdepriest@infosec.exchange @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @jrdepriest@infosec.exchange @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu
       
 (DIR) Post #B1FnVdoA63eor5BIG0 by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-14T23:00:34.492Z
       
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       Doesn't sound very inclusive of you, chief.@apophis@brain.worm.pink @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu
       
 (DIR) Post #B1FnfXRMcuFW0BEky0 by apophis@brain.worm.pink
       2025-12-14T23:01:24.374046Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=antmMPqYuw8https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
       
 (DIR) Post #B1FnfYXmWWydQNFObo by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-14T23:02:20.557Z
       
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       Something tells me you haven't read actually read any of Karl Popper's work, considering he explicitly said that it should not be used as a means of ostracising people.@apophis@brain.worm.pink @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu
       
 (DIR) Post #B1FoIfzGmcrDnrl5d2 by apophis@brain.worm.pink
       2025-12-14T23:02:55.954310Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf doesn't matter, kill yourself
       
 (DIR) Post #B1FoIglps3hoEUTsKO by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-14T23:09:22.036Z
       
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       “Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right not to tolerate the intolerant.” Source.Go read and learn something useful rather than quoting talking points that you don't understand.@apophis@brain.worm.pink @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu
       
 (DIR) Post #B1K8pRILCnxLVWQ1KK by xaetacore@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-16T23:01:38.759Z
       
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       @Saorsa @cf@todon.eu @librewolf@chaos.social Anyone thinking of reporting this im rejecting the reports, i have received several and fail to see what Soarsa is doing wrong
       
 (DIR) Post #B1K8pSRExCfX3Padpw by cf@todon.eu
       2025-12-16T23:03:24Z
       
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       @xaetacore @librewolf Figures.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1K8pTWaumXuQJ6Qoy by xaetacore@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-16T23:04:15.040Z
       
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       @cf@todon.eu @librewolf@chaos.social If they at least took the effort to explain what promted them to file the report perhaps i could have seen things from their perspective lol but then it would still be a really hard bargain
       
 (DIR) Post #B1K8pUTRNzcLModQXo by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-17T01:18:04.363Z
       
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       Been mulling over why someone might call another a fascist when they've made their position rather clear that it isn't the case.A cursory search shown that some progressives tend to use pattern-matching shortcut based on language, topic, and social cues. In this context, whenever someone calls another a fascist, they aren't defining that person or their actions as being fascist by definition but rather as a marker to indicate social danger. That naturally results in a disconnect where two people talk past each other as a result of operating on two entirely different epistemic models. Where one is arguing with empirical truth while the other in other risk categorisation.That is why it can feel frustrating attempting to engage someone in debate that otherwise appears agitated or belligerent. I believe this may have been the case here as well. Not much can be done about it besides encouraging people to elaborate in detail on what I was found to be in violation and why. @xaetacore @cf@todon.eu @librewolf@chaos.social
       
 (DIR) Post #B1KxbLlI4liBxGzyq0 by Microplastics101@mstdn.social
       2025-12-17T08:48:37Z
       
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       @librewolf How does it slip through? I am not a programer but it seems like a security issue if functional codes can be injected without you knowing. What else has slipped through?
       
 (DIR) Post #B1KxbN6F6M486XoE8O by librewolf@chaos.social
       2025-12-17T10:01:10Z
       
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       @Microplastics101 we don't audit the full codebase / (or rather: changes to the upstream codebase) on each release, as that would be more or less an impossible task. We still work on the assumption that upstream (Mozilla) code is, in general, benign, and not trying to hide exploits/backdoors/whatever, and that the things that _might_ slip through (like this) are not good, but not something opening up serious attack vectors, for example.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1LbdGEBcORNXNyqUy by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-12-17T18:15:43Z
       
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       @abmurrowWhat I would like to see (approximately, etc) would be for "us" (undefined but does not include Google Apple Amazon etc) agree upon a sensible html5 set/subset, some defined subset behaviors, and if those are rendered and supported by eg Servo, declare that to be "the world wide web". We'd have to use CorpBrowser to shop pn corp sites, maybe, but all of us mortals could have interoperability as we long had. Queue up the usual arguments that we can't do this.  @Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf
       
 (DIR) Post #B1LgJu3cK59f2tcqpM by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-12-17T19:08:15Z
       
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       @abmurrow 1/2 I fully understand that. In essence, this is the core of the "browser war".But there is this: Iff you define success by compatibility with (corp browser) the absolute best you can do is match it. Their budgets, in their context, assures that result.You can try to create an entity that can achieve that level of code and system fiddling, and attendant social issues of an entity of that scope and scale (ignoring on what basis you'd raise that money) -- never mind the absolute time issue -- and the best you will do, again, is slightly trail a moving target.Techies define success by the side effects of profiteering, ruinous, disaster-bound corporations. One of the many reasons I dropped out. No one will do this and I do not care -- the path I would choose, that I *do* choose, every time, is to go do what I see as the right thing and not care what others are doing.Of course in a world where success is always (always) money-adjacent, my previous paragraph is literally laughable. This is my ground state. The punk thing is to shut up and just go make the scene you want to be in. But with technology being so fundamentally anchored to commerce and finance, and hence so culturally retrograde, it's hard to see anything happen at all.1/2@Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf
       
 (DIR) Post #B1LgMlhnpbTC0mmwXQ by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-12-17T19:08:47Z
       
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       @abmurrow 2/2 Servo can't balance the power because the power is financial (not even economic). It's not about code quality or function. Its about control.Technology does not belong to us. We don't even own the word; the fine art of software and electronics we can and do craft -- all the Crowd Supply's, Arduino's (of the past), Tindy, all the amateur stuff -- that *amateur* stuff is relatively free.We're entering a time of tremendous oppression. Technology is and will be the tool. We do not control these things.  We need more TOR and BriarProject, more human scale tools that work with and for us.I assume I'll be written off as a crank, as I said, my ground state. I truly fear for the well being of people who have invested their psyche in "technology" without fully realizing what it is.2/2@Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf
       
 (DIR) Post #B1LgYIVSDdQsvXVg3c by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-12-17T19:10:51Z
       
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       @abmurrow And thank you, genuinely, for the excellent post.@Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf
       
 (DIR) Post #B1LnfZzCKMSoqUqFIe by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-12-17T20:30:35Z
       
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       @abmurrow Yeah, things are truly terrible. I keep thinking I'm being doom'n'gloom for no reason, but the net is entirely captured by corporations, none of which have our interests in mind.  It's hard to think about. This "war" cannot be won by frontal assault. Admitting this isn't giving up or losing.  We need an askance take. So many folk have embraced "technology" integrated as it is with corporate power that I don't see many letting go in time to do anything.There's a lot of nostalgia for old dead protocols but the net was nice then not because of old protocols, but because the corporate takeover hadn't advanced much yet.The problem we have is not a technical problem, per se.@Microplastics101 @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf
       
 (DIR) Post #B1LviYpdsG2nlhIx2O by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-17T08:38:31Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf What demographics are excluded by which statements librewolf developers have made?
       
 (DIR) Post #B1LviaFua4eSBSbRce by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-17T22:00:40.181Z
       
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       @ohfp@furry.engineer has made it very clear that Librewolf has picked a side politically as they believe that remaining apolitical is tantamount to enabling abuse. By doing so, they've excluded effectively an entire side of the political spectrum by making it very clear that they are not welcome in both the project and surrounding community. If that isn't exclusion of an entire demographic then I don't know what is.@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer
       
 (DIR) Post #B1LvwttcM4S79T0B9s by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-17T22:03:23.922Z
       
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       @ohfp@furry.engineer has made it very clear that Librewolf has picked a side politically as they believe that remaining apolitical is tantamount to enabling abuse. By doing so, they've excluded effectively an entire side of the political spectrum by making it very clear that they are not welcome in both the project and surrounding community. If that isn't exclusion of an entire demographic then I don't know what is.@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MDESW0aqGofHuvcu by tinker@infosec.exchange
       2025-12-18T01:17:00Z
       
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       @tomjennings Part of it is technical, though. By being so complicated, its difficult if not impossible for community groups to develop the technology. It's akin to the "success paradox" of streaming video. The more viral a video gets, the more bandwidth you need, the more money you need, the more ads you need, the more surveillance / algorithms you need, etc. The tech of web-torrenting and peertube have addressed this. So with regards to the internet and web browsers, by going back to simpler protocols - this allows for non-corporate technical solutions that can be built and maintained by community groups. @abmurrow @Microplastics101 @Mercutio @librewolf
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MDiYTN0Yu7pT2Aa0 by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T01:15:13Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp @cloudbusting So you're annoyed that racists are being excluded? Why should we be forced to work with racists?
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MDiZhaRBs1dqh2NU by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T01:22:26.689Z
       
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       I'll end up opening a can of worms that'll end up consuming much of my time for very little payoff. But the jist is that my experience some communities have moderated people based on their politics rather than on a case-by-case basis which should have been the case. This ironically enough results inequity where people are punished for holding alternative view points even if they haven't themselves have not done anything to be found in violation of community rules. That is just one of many examples which come from a community, or rather its management deciding to pick a side politically. If someone decides to be racist to another in a manner that can be empirically proven and passes the Brandenburg test, then I have absolutely no problem with communities moderating and removing problematic elements. My issue comes from when someone states their point of view, are branded and then subsequently removed under that pretense rather than for anything they've done wrong.That is the kind of environment that Librewolf will cultivate in my opinion by picking a side and integrating their political ideology into the rules their enforcement on their community. @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MHyQ1iZrbw5Hv5oe by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T01:38:10Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp @cloudbusting Racism isn't just interpersonal there is such a thing as systemic racism. Supporting trump means you are supporting racist policies for example whether or not you believe you personally hate other races
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MHyR1krDEbBgwdVo by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T02:10:09.390Z
       
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       I'm aware. I just think there's a time and place for that and our software should not be a platform for that. It should remain utilitarian and apolitical. By that, I mean there should be no particular political ideology that dominates the community and management of that software. That exclusivity, equity and fair treatment should be take priority over a person's ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, handicapability, religion and personal beliefs. My ideal project is one where people are not seen for their labels but rather as anonymous hobbies which share in a mutual interest and hobby. Librewolf by picking a side and integrating their political ideology into the rules and their enforcement violate that principle changing the power dynamic and systematic oppression from one thing to another rather than striving to eliminate it its entirety.That is the problem I have with Librewolf and its head developer.@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MIKJYbJPDgOEk0y8 by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T02:14:05.032Z
       
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       I'm aware. I just think there's a time and place for that and our software should not be a platform for that. It should remain utilitarian and apolitical. By that, I mean there should be no particular political ideology that dominates the community and management of that software. That inclusivity, equity and fair treatment should be take priority over a person's ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, handicapability, religion and personal beliefs. My ideal project is one where people are not seen for their labels but rather as anonymous hobbies which share in a mutual interest and hobby. Librewolf by picking a side and integrating their political ideology into the rules and their enforcement violate that principle changing the power dynamic and systematic oppression from one thing to another rather than striving to eliminate it its entirety.That is the problem I have with Librewolf and its head developer.*Typo.@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MIPe5eOjjjWIk4Ia by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T02:15:00.122Z
       
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       I'm aware. I just think there's a time and place for that and our software should not be a platform for that. It should remain utilitarian and apolitical. By that, I mean there should be no particular political ideology that dominates the community and management of that software. That inclusivity, equity and fair treatment should be take priority over a person's ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, handicapability, religion and personal beliefs. My ideal project is one where people are not seen for their labels but rather as anonymous individuals which share in a mutual interest and hobby. Librewolf by picking a side and integrating their political ideology into the rules and their enforcement violate that principle changing the power dynamic and systematic oppression from one thing to another rather than striving to eliminate it its entirety.That is the problem I have with Librewolf and its head developer.*Typo.@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MLoqwu1eYiVGMUCm by Microplastics101@mstdn.social
       2025-12-18T02:53:14Z
       
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       @tomjennings @abmurrow @tinker @Mercutio @librewolf Thats why I love the fediverse. Its like the internet of the 90s. Crazy, random and interesting.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MO0lZu1KKxEFPboe by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-12-18T03:17:49Z
       
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       @tinker Technically, we have those simpler protocols now -- simply don't don't lard http with tracking and surveillance. I don't understand your success paradox, video example? The more viral a video gets, more bandwidth, OK. Nothing in a streamed video requires ads or surveillance.We don't need to go backwards -- http with HTML5 and CSS can be extremely lightweight. Apache is drop dead reliable. That's how I do it anyway.  In the 90s image file size mattered, today hardly at all.It is the *intent* of bad actors to be bad. That's the main reason the net is bad. Advertising has become something far more sinister.@abmurrow @Microplastics101 @Mercutio @librewolf
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MPOAqeKgvgDWyFY8 by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T03:29:47Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp @cloudbusting inclusivity IS taking a side.  You can either exclude bigots or minorities you cant include both
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MPOCmT9Cm2D91wJM by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T03:33:14.192Z
       
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       How about you include them both and then moderate any incidents on a case-by-case basis?Y'know, how communities should be moderated instead of profiling people for their beliefs.@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MRBBLnLz0Tv2TIYa by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T03:51:16Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp @cloudbusting Thats what code of conducts are for, if you shut up about your racist political beliefs then it will never come up will it, but if you do bring it up then it makes sense to have standards in the form of a code of conduct
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MRBC4oeb1GAfXFjM by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T03:53:18.881Z
       
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       Racist political beliefs.Is precisely why I want my software and associated projects to remain apolitical. Otherwise, I would have been banned had you been in charge of moderation for no other reason than disagreeing with you.@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MUd3FZMct2lbXYno by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T04:22:58Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp @cloudbusting Here im using you generically, you havent said anything bigoted to me, but you are advancing something that only seeks to protect bigots so its like why do you want to give them anything
       
 (DIR) Post #B1MUd54eaBLMQKRs48 by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T04:31:55.258Z
       
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       I'm looking to advance an alternative school of thought that seeks to address matters of systematic oppression in another manner from liberalism. @ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafeRE: https://neondystopia.world/notes/ag9p7kz8rm7a00fj
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NVyShUEJ3wtQKbx2 by hrbrmstr@mastodon.social
       2025-12-18T15:12:37Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf no software is apolitical. Suggesting otherwise is so daft.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NVyUIkHGSbrGlsfI by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T16:21:44.571Z
       
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       It used to be when there was less focus on the identity politics and culture wars that have defined the last decade and a half. It was purely utilitarian and I want to see a return back to that. There should be no room for exclusion when politics is the furthest thing from anyone's mind.@hrbrmstr@mastodon.social @librewolf@chaos.social
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Ni2hIL6ofSlUM4wK by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T17:09:56Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp @cloudbusting I wouldnt have banned you unless you repeatedly promoted racist politics like saying that immigrants are more dangerous than citizens born in your country and so therefore need massive scrutiny and less rights
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Ni2icw9ijotf02gS by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T18:36:55.635Z
       
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       And what about that would have warranted removal from a community? If they were inciting violence or encouraging people do the same in a manner that failed the brandenburg test, then yes you would be within your right to exercise judgement. That said, there's nothing wrong with someone speaking or simply advocating for something so long as they, themselves aren't engaging in the same behaviour in a manner that is visible within the community. Anything that person does outside of the community is beyond your purview. @ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NineYz5AeBu5WyX2 by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T18:41:37Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp @cloudbusting Yes there is something wrong with that for the same reason inciting violence is wrong, its inciting support for racist policies and community moderators have the power and therefore the responsibility to decide if thats ok or not, if you think racist policies are ok then you wont do anything obviously but if you dont think its ok then just washing your hands of it doesnt negate your responsibility
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NinfFWX0fu21Qwq0 by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T18:45:28.250Z
       
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       Freedom of speech and expression should take priority over all else unless that infringes upon another's rights. In which case, it will be examined on a case-by-case basis taking all factors into consideration.It is how I would've wanted community moderation to be, not vibes-based reporting as the system administrator of my instance has previously mentioned.@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafeRE: https://neondystopia.world/notes/agcr47rbrm7a01p7
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NlI0lHJWo9LWsvLM by benis_redux@cawfee.club
       2025-12-18T19:13:20.641563Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp lol faggot
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NlW5FvOvRvL5viAy by nach@detroitriotcity.com
       2025-12-18T19:15:49.259917Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp kill yourself
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Nmn0bk2HEfnglj04 by dj@parcero.casa
       2025-12-18T19:29:37.379847Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @librewolf @cf
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NnJuWzeJZOViEjp2 by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T19:35:42Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @dj @librewolf @Saorsa @cf Your hate will leave you isolated with the bitter venomous people you deserve company with
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NnVWdcJEgBsksC6i by dj@parcero.casa
       2025-12-18T19:37:42.138852Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp @librewolf @Saorsa @cf
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Nnm31neSSyyI3xy4 by nach@detroitriotcity.com
       2025-12-18T19:41:07.236702Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp @dj @librewolf @Saorsa @cf the monumental lack of awareness in this post :cringe5: quote me when you're about join the 41%
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Np54ToZsSEvknlVA by leyonhjelm
       2025-12-18T19:55:53.130240Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp : builds entire identity upon being an insufferable narcissist @dj : that’s gross and you bring shame to your family and ancestors Yes, clearly DJ is in the wrong here@librewolf @Saorsa @cf6f9a64f6b7f113b3d0fd91becef3fef5ffbf1f24e0af544da29118868de513a8.jpg
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Npd9YUDKhOW8Epdo by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T20:02:01Z
       
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       @leyonhjelm @librewolf @Saorsa @dj@parcero.casa @cf They said nothing about calling me a narcissist they just told me to kill myself for being trans what are you talking about, thats what theyre in the wrong for
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NpmWs4tYafR8sBLE by leyonhjelm
       2025-12-18T20:03:44.370347Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp All trannies are narcissists and most vegans.  You’re making a retarded argument, sir@librewolf @Saorsa @cf4db80e5d712b9fd2.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NpsY8H7QB15OJssC by leyonhjelm
       2025-12-18T20:04:49.650361Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @cf @librewolf @dj  sorry dj this faggot untagged you and I didn’t notice at first
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqAniXueD6dOzJvk by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T20:08:06Z
       
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       @leyonhjelm @librewolf @Saorsa @cf I'm reporting you to your instance admin for anti trans bigotry, trans people are no more unhealthily preoccupied with themselves than any cis person is with their gender identity, its cis people that make a big deal about it and exclude us
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqDHeHbGIw2mB5fM by dj@parcero.casa
       2025-12-18T20:07:53.601513Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @leyonhjelm @librewolf @Saorsa @cf @ambiguous_yelp What a complete hypocrite!  I am a man and he is misgendering me by calling me "they"wtf is a they anyway?
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqM8A8EtOPEFIGOG by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:10:09.054008Z
       
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       @dj @librewolf @leyonhjelm @Saorsa @cf @ambiguous_yelp a "they" is a crowd...so like a "crowd of retards" and such.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqPoKztBYcty89yq by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:10:48.425644Z
       
       4 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Saorsa @librewolf @ambiguous_yelp @cf @ohfp nigger fag queer whatever, please add me to your block lists.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqT2iItd2MMAZb4i by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T20:11:23.788Z
       
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       Nah, too cis, white and straight for that brother.@ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer @librewolf@chaos.social @ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqTA9rDaEjReWCUi by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T20:11:25Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @p Someone on your server is spreading anti trans hate, please moderate within 48h or I will escalate
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqTJefuNEetq0RHM by leyonhjelm
       2025-12-18T20:11:28.328838Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp Every interaction with a tranny only further proves my point. @dj  @librewolf @Saorsa @cf5688079aa0de9180dded2e5c26c9cd6d614d082fa4c4918c37b05cca0117c136.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqWJWGrv1zLdVM0G by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:11:59.531821Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Saorsa @librewolf @ambiguous_yelp @cf @ohfp whatever...cis...jfc
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqcOcgo5AiuiPIqe by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T20:13:04.882Z
       
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       It's LGBTQIA talk for identifying as the sex you were assigned at birth.@ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer @librewolf@chaos.social @ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqfgGPfwZAUhYORs by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:13:40.276635Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Saorsa @librewolf @ambiguous_yelp @cf @ohfp i know....and its fucking retarded.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqgBewwlc3rmGvUu by leyonhjelm
       2025-12-18T20:13:47.902090Z
       
       4 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @ins0mniak @dj @Saorsa @ambiguous_yelp @cf @librewolfIMG_8258.jpeg
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqgN7iKA9pQAoYMK by dj@parcero.casa
       2025-12-18T20:12:53.517855Z
       
       5 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @leyonhjelm @librewolf @Saorsa @cf @ambiguous_yelp Oh noes,  he's reporting you to the jannies.  I'm sure they'll respond right away!
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NqjLiG1cibunKKrg by leyonhjelm
       2025-12-18T20:14:22.188927Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @dj Now my day is absolutely ruined @Saorsa @ambiguous_yelp @cf @librewolf
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Nr7MonZBgkIGq5Hk by nach@detroitriotcity.com
       2025-12-18T20:18:35.107492Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp @leyonhjelm @librewolf @Saorsa @cf that's very inclusive of you sir :transflagburn2:
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrCgfJCgB5IOwAJE by Owl@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:19:39.089295Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       I don't use words that were invented in the last two decades whose explicit purpose is to validate every single delusion people have with some sort of socially validated lexicon just to make them 'happy' because they can't play the cards they've been dealt and want everyone to play along with them.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrKW0gheSQZ9faT2 by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:21:03.272758Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Owl @librewolf @Saorsa @cf @ambiguous_yelp 1000x and also Id add that we're not under any fucking obligation to have our speech policed either.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrLJQay7IPphAT9U by Owl@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:21:13.331315Z
       
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       You can either be racist or left-leaning, there is no such thing as apolitical.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrOF5zX4xLGUvaIy by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-18T20:21:42.750Z
       
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       Lmao, you're just as bad as them.Smh.@Owl@shitpost.cloud
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrU99AYwy8YLEI4W by Owl@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:22:48.364430Z
       
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       No, I'm worse actually.You're in here against racist speech and you say your apolitical but you use the lexicon of the subverted. You people still think "lmao I am laughing derisively" works on people because you have the mentality of a teenaged girl, but the fact is the social currency is worthless; I don't give a fuck.I'm going to nigger you.......
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrYxPRd73Pb78UoS by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T20:21:29Z
       
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       @ins0mniak @Saorsa @ohfp @librewolf @cf cis means "on this side of" trans means "on the other side" like cisalpine and transalpine cisatlantic and transatlantic cisneptunian transneptunianhttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cis
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrYyfQx9RDUzcmNE by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:23:38.834098Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @ohfp @librewolf @cf yeah i know what its supposed to mean fag. jfc
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrZM7Dm0KcDpnnNY by Owl@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:23:45.076287Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       Tell anybody what. I will say whatever I want until somebody thinks their life is worth throwing away trying to physically stop me.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrdKpiU05nP4Vnt2 by Owl@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:24:28.753339Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       Just because it defines something doesn't mean it has meaning. Meaning is for objective things rooted in reality.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrjhIjrNPopB7XpA by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:25:36.324313Z
       
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       @Owl @librewolf @Saorsa @cf @ambiguous_yelp I will never understand that kindergarden shit they do.They just show up and start lecturing and demanding that people use their verbiage.>illegal alienimmigrant>normalcis
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Nrlr4AWbNhgnKnia by Owl@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:26:00.986472Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       They're just words used by people who hate normal people. That's it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NroY1RmnQtUiLUA4 by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:26:29.001878Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Owl @librewolf @Saorsa @cf @ambiguous_yelp sniveling little tards for real...>well just for your information....
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrrNlEOX2OXO71Jw by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:26:57.990716Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Owl @librewolf @Saorsa @cf @ambiguous_yelp yeah and i dont use them.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrrfJt6vrQznSRCS by Owl@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:27:04.040267Z
       
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       I can be misinformed just fine without retards telling me what stupid bullshit is real just because a bunch of other retarded faggots say it is.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Nrv2pg9CTUmuwHGi by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:27:39.462454Z
       
       2 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @Owl @librewolf @Saorsa @cf @ambiguous_yelp its that therepy speak from the 90s with a rebrand, god its obnoxious.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NrwS5HkPeVOVuTAm by vic@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:27:43.156720Z
       
       3 likes, 1 repeats
       
       The class bolshevik newspeak tactic, and it works for dividing people. Even the stupid thing where we capitalize races now (which started off as explicitly capitalizing black and explicitly lowercasing white) divides people who otherwise might agree.Fracture the language to fracture the people.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Ns0qQHCQ3q2Np4ee by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:28:42.414381Z
       
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       @vic @librewolf @Saorsa @Owl @cf @ambiguous_yelp orwell wrote about it a lot, how people manipulate language to further a political agenda.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Ns62kGoPNfhdeaWW by Owl@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:29:39.338209Z
       
       3 likes, 0 repeats
       
       If language no longer serves to define things in reality or even serves to mischaracterize things that are rooted there, then that language is useless and everything only has to go through social approval.Slurs, great example. If I can't define something by its most basic and visceral word, then I can't adequately describe a problem to somebody.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NsD2uYarU6FDnvoO by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:30:54.610308Z
       
       1 likes, 1 repeats
       
       @Owl @librewolf @Saorsa @vic @cf @ambiguous_yelp its that and it also gives prissy low IQ people a mechanism and heuristic to wield in the greater world while pretending to be intelligent.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NsIshzRKWgL4i0Tw by Owl@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:31:59.176331Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       'My college professor said.""The research said.""Experts say."They farm out their entire learning process to others with sociopolitical ambitions and think themselves wise lmao
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NsQgROvyqCbmfaoy by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:33:22.463535Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @Owl @librewolf @Saorsa @vic @cf @ambiguous_yelp "the tv said"those are my favorites. They repeat shit from their political shows "cuz such an activist everyone loook!!"
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NsyGhL9Ug8c88iie by vic@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:39:03.024363Z
       
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       The worst part is you can't really opt out of language updates, you have to decide whether to buy in to it or not and be judged accordingly.Waiter/waitress or server?Master or main?I honestly don't care, none of those offend me, but whichever one I use sends a message whether I want to send that message or not.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Nt1w3rowZrljQPqa by Owl@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-18T20:40:07.561080Z
       
       2 likes, 0 repeats
       
       Everything you do is a social and politically alienating thing now. Everything is a statement.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1Nt4j7OOpBuUlPArQ by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:40:36.697158Z
       
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       @vic @librewolf @Saorsa @Owl @cf @ambiguous_yelp yeah man 100. Thats why the do it tho.your not mad about illegal migration destroying your community...you hate immigrants who built this country!not even a challenge for them.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1NtDXh4FG9RfWINGq by ins0mniak@bigmilkers.beer
       2025-12-18T20:42:12.277753Z
       
       5 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @Owl @librewolf @Saorsa @vic @cf @ambiguous_yelp everything is some dickhead's politics.Want to go snag  a cofe?politcswant to go to the grocery for a steak?politics.fuckers infect that shit in everyone's live to gain power and their the only winners.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1O7h5NfTVhXu5Cdua by p
       2025-12-18T23:24:26.756293Z
       
       8 likes, 4 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp Well, I will credit you for being transparent and also for giving a citation.  Most places do not.  Thanks.  I am afraid that you will be disappointed by my response, but I hope it will make sense.FSE's moderation policy is probably best summed up here:  https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/what-is-freedom-of-speech.html .  Harassment and spam, sure, but an opinion is an opinion and if the complaint is that the opinion is bad, I am unwilling to abuse moderation to enforce opinions.  There are places that are attempting to build coherent communities (I imagine that veganism.social is interested in advancing veganism) but FSE is not one of those places:  it's here because I need a place to be and since I can let other people in, I do.  I have an agenda, obviously, there are things I intend to accomplish before I die, but I don't want to force it on anyone and I don't need to in order to get it done, and I am really, really, *really* not interested in either side of the "culture war" because it's a psyop to allow the authoritarian psychopaths to continue about their business while the rest of us chase each other's tails, so I just do what I do and then I come here and talk to people.  I think, like, Christmas is upon us, people are out of school, it's going to get very contentious until the second week of January when everyone goes back to work/school.As far as escalation goes, I think enforcement against accounts is better than entire instances; that appears to be backed up in the data (see attached PDF; across instances, users that caused problems were ~3-4% of the users) but your mileage may vary.  Whatever you go with, I get it; FSE's a dive bar, some people would rather live next to the mall than a dive bar.  Either way, good luck.decentralized_web_moderation.pdfimmortal_technique--rich_man-s_world.mp3
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OBmowftTmwU5ZDzE by leyonhjelm
       2025-12-19T00:10:18.155602Z
       
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       @p @ambiguous_yelp lol
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OHhZlZV91TgUFw92 by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:16:35.093565Z
       
       1 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp Why should we be forced to deal with troons?
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OHuw1q2e1AUiEcSG by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:18:59.953053Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp Malding faggots like you make me wish I had voted for Fat Orange Carnie just so I could watch you seehte and dilate...
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OI1tXdgeY2o9QbMO by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:20:15.423386Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp Or could you prefer a nice bridge?image.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OIEBfo6DqgW96ssq by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:22:28.718290Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp How about you shut the fuck up about your tranny psychosis?  No?  Ok, then we will continue to say nigger.You homo nigger.  Free speech is grand.  I you can't handle that, I suspect you should try suicide.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OIRnG7fSnGqtaI1g by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:24:56.257588Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp "YOU"RE ALL BIGOTS!!!!!" the troon screeched, as everybody else pointed and laughed at them.Yeah, society is done catering to your mental illness.  If you can't handle some internet bantz, you should consider necking yourself.Headcases these days, I swear.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OIdJg1Tnl2ZzC3Wa by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:27:01.209819Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp Less rights?  These parasites have no rights and furthermore, they should be machine gunned down in their rafts until they get the message.(Unwelcome).You see cheeky little immigrants... I see shark-food.We are not the same.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OJC7Ctpkhw2aAGjg by VaxxSabbath@detroitriotcity.com
       2025-12-19T01:33:13.993839Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @p ooo, you didn’t get the memoit isn’t “anti-trans hate”, “trans” isn’t a real term (it was voted down at the ballot box), the correct term now is “gender psychosis” and people who suffer from this are “gender psychotics”; what you’re referring to is the “normal disgust reflex” to bugchasing nutjobs with axe-wounds, which is definitely considered normative, normal people are disgusted by disgusting thingsthere are some new codes entering the next revision of the ICD:  G1922.1 (“Gender Psychosis”), G1922.1.1 (“Gender Psychosis, Post-Mutilation”), G1922.1.2 (“Gender Psychosis, Pre-Mutilation”), G1922.2 (“Rapid-Onset Grooming Disorder”)there’s a lot of stuff that’s been unpacked recently about the origins of gender psychosis, which we’ve discovered is related to “being molested by faggots”, science is really moving forward these days now that Trump has removed the roadblocks to publishing these resultsthank you for your attention to this matter
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OJLuH8lflipVoj7Q by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:35:04.723466Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp I am proud to be willfully, personally and directly responsible for racisim, anti-faggotry and troon-hate.  And 90% of that is because of obnoxious fucktards like you - howling and demanding everybody engage in your retard-tier delusions.I just wanted to play video games, go hunting twice a year and raise my kids in peace.  But that was too fucking much for mental defectives like you.  You fucked over my vidya, you try to disarm me and you flood my country with 60 IQ shit-skins to steal-away my children's future.Now it's war.  I won't be happy till your imbecilic "ideals" are crushed utterly.I will (gleefully) shit on your agenda at every opportunity and in every way I possibly can.  And when you inevitably "do a fucking flip you fag" I will laugh and laugh and relish every second of it.  You wanna know who made me?You did shithead.Now fuckin' kill yourself.@TrevorGoodchild
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OJWw6qI1x5heGA1w by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:37:04.311664Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @dj @librewolf @Saorsa @cf LMFAO troons are being thrown under the bus at every strata.  You toxic turbo-fucks are freaks, everybody knows it, and the institutions that were propping you up are dumping all of you at lightspeed.LOL.LMFAO.Sucks to be a useful (read: disposable) idiot - no?
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OJaZfheeWpGvIg6a by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:37:43.775674Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @leyonhjelm @librewolf @Saorsa @cf Kill yourself.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OJfMQkJS2JeXaQWe by VaxxSabbath@detroitriotcity.com
       2025-12-19T01:38:30.072801Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @librewolf @Saorsa @dj @cf @ambiguous_yelp
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OJks0gKOOj2k1RNg by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:39:35.404164Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @leyonhjelm @librewolf @Saorsa @cf >"I'm reporting you to your instance admin for anti trans bigotry..."You are in the wrong neighborhood son.  (You will never be a real woman... LMAO).image.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OJw45dksj7h5gCSe by VaxxSabbath@detroitriotcity.com
       2025-12-19T01:41:27.852336Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @librewolf @leyonhjelm @Saorsa @cf @ambiguous_yelp
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OKDrWjCemHwVpuJk by dj@parcero.casa
       2025-12-19T01:43:55.236767Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @p
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OKuuXNsyAxjRfcOG by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:52:36.598374Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @p Escalate to "whom" you malding pretend-cunt?  P's the mad-lad who runs this instance, for his own amusement and on his own dime.  Who are you "escalating" to?  What "authority" are you going throw an tantrum in front of because your fee-fee's got hurt by some mean internet words?   (You fugly head-case that can't for one second pass as a real woman.    And yes, I uses "that" instead of "who" intentionally).We're not slaves living in Australia, the UK or Canada.  We have free fucking speech here in 'Murica - and a storied tradition of blasting foreign shit-heels who try to take away our muskets, cannons or printing presses.  You have a block and a mute button your preening baby.  They work fine.  Use them.And then leap off a grain silo and rid us of the stench of your fake axe-wound if that's just not enough for your totalitarian liking.Fucking children.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1OL5cIS2qlgLPn4Ii by SilverDeth
       2025-12-19T01:54:32.683857Z
       
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       @ambiguous_yelp @ins0mniak @Saorsa @ohfp @librewolf @cf I'm not hungry, kindly take away this word salad and also gut yourself with pruning sheers.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1P0li3p6JQEVL8dmK by Paleface@nicecrew.digital
       2025-12-19T09:41:32.466413Z
       
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       Don't worry, I'd never say they need massive scrutiny and less rights (they need a long and painful death, and you with them). Cheers!
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PXgaYirSQYHIl0GO by p
       2025-12-19T15:50:23.888079Z
       
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       @VaxxSabbath @ambiguous_yelp Man, do not act like you ever heard of the ICD.adventures.gif
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PYD4SJF3ysGdFJse by vic@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-19T15:56:14.619024Z
       
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 (DIR) Post #B1PYV3g0sQSL41EVXc by p
       2025-12-19T15:59:31.150062Z
       
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       @SilverDeth @ambiguous_yelp I'd just figured this kid was running the instance.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PYybE1DubbViE1Fg by Owl@shitpost.cloud
       2025-12-19T16:04:47.991054Z
       
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       >its cis people that make a big deal about it and exclude usLOL hold on let me look at Twitter and prove that wrong.That took five seconds btw. I just opened Twitter, didn't have to click anything else. Yeah, it's "cis people" making a big deal about it, not these child molesting filth.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PqLhmkhHtdjo4hmK by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-18T18:58:21Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp @cloudbusting Freedom of speech refers to a legal right not to be charged by the state for most speech (except direct calls to violence) But if you're using your speech to call for oppression of any kind I don't think that should be valid.  Like if you're trying to defend your right to promote the virtues of ICE raids that shouldnt be valid, take that to private conversations where it can have the nuance and care that should be afforded to such interactions, not the chat room for an open source project where (in the example of defending ICE) youre saying that certain americans aren't welcome in the project and borrowing a term you used, alienating an entire demographic
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PqLihpH5YAaomHjs by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-19T19:19:26.085Z
       
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       Hence keeping the software and associated community apolitical. Where such discussion would warrant a warning telling that person to take the discussion elsewhere.Being apolitical is as much about protecting inclusivity as it preventing any particular political school of thought from taking root in the community, software and the management of both.@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PrP4idzDpdgkK9ZY by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-19T19:26:38Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp @cloudbusting Apoliticism is impossible, if I ban speciesism and anti-speciesism that would mean banning posts endorsing or talking about eating animals and you would probably see that decision in and of itself as political.  Moderators are human and have biases that they will never be able to get rid of, its better to be transparent about what those biases are.  Besides, politics can be a force for good when its libertarian and anti oppression etc, I think that banning politics from forum spaces is a short sighted way to narrow peoples understanding of the world and how it interacts with the software they use, ethics in development is a thing
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PrP6H4CixeVnR9rk by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-19T19:31:17.349Z
       
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       The discussion of politics have been banned from communities as it can bring about unrest and instability within the community. Not even is mature enough to discuss politics which is why it is fine to have communities where the discussion of such is banned and to have platforms dedicated for the discussion of politics.Having your project and community be apolitical is a matter of risk assessment and whether you want to invite discourse that can bring instability or bad vibes to your community. If the community and especially moderation aren't mature enough to deal with the outcome of that then it is best to avoid it altogether which I see as a pragmatic fix for something that is becoming increasingly polarising and radical over time.@ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PsuKeIuPvK1elKYC by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-19T19:34:51Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp @cloudbusting I dont see a problem with picking a side when the stakes are high.  I'd rather work with fewer people who I can actually trust to be compassionate thoughtful people than to pave over disagreements with a thin veneer of courtesy.  Confllict is neutral, its fighting for whats right thats important
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PsuLroNgK3nq5dFA by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-19T19:48:06.302Z
       
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       Consider the matter from my point of view then: Librewolf has explicitly made themselves clear that they are uncompromisingly progressive and that will not change. They have sided with something that you as a libertarian are uncertain over.You could wake up one day, update your software and find that Librewolf has been replaced with malware or that anti-features have been added which nag you to have awareness of $CURRENTEVENT or force you to interact with their school of thought by requiring that the software is ran with a flag to disable that functionality.That is something that has already happened with a piece of software known as DiscordChatExporter and is something I see as an inevitability with progressive aligned projects. Because of that, I don't think I can trust developers to not abuse the platform they've been given through their software and integrate their politics into it. If that trust cannot be assured then I will not install any software that have declared or otherwise indicated themselves as being progressive. In doing so, you've alienated a demographic, one that I belong to. Progressives seem to have no quarrel with alienating particular demographics so long as it is conductive to removing problematic or corrosive elements. That is not equitable or fair however which is something that I care deeply about. Hence why I have taken the time out of my day to explain in detail my point. @ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PwIKikarjj3oyj6u by ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social
       2025-12-19T20:22:47Z
       
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       @Saorsa @librewolf @cf @ohfp @cloudbusting Acknowleging ones biases doesnt make them more or less likely to do something like that its just transparency.  Actually someone trying to pretend theyre unbiased would be more likely to subconsciously inject their biases into features, maybe it comes in the form of making their software inaccessible to people with low vision or hearing, but anyway you wouldnt want people to complain about that because that would be political
       
 (DIR) Post #B1PwILhMxUE45pL8b2 by Saorsa@neondystopia.world
       2025-12-19T20:24:50.887Z
       
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       What you're describing would be the effect of the other side of the political spectrum being dominant in a software project. I doubt it would result in people intentionally adding in regressions, but it is less likely that they will be receptive to implementing stuff if framed from a progressive ideological framework rather than an accessibility necessity. @ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social @librewolf@chaos.social @cf@todon.eu @ohfp@furry.engineer @cloudbusting@critter.cafe
       
 (DIR) Post #B1TT3PlRhuFEmxMrk8 by otso@tsundere.love
       2025-12-21T13:17:15.620447Z
       
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       @librewolf i will use this web browser to say heil hitler nigger nigger nigger kill all the jews <img src="https://yggdrasil.social/emoji/custom/emojis/windmilloffriendship.png" style="width: 14px; height:14px;">