Post B1BGw2SazNXJipEY40 by festal@tldr.nettime.org
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 (DIR) Post #B1B2qkZafPiLRK5btY by tante@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-12-12T13:06:31Z
       
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       It's not that "the Internet" is worse or "enshittified" or whatnot. That's just clinging to the belief that the Internet is special and separate from the "real world". The world is being made worse by capitalism in a massive way.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1BGw2SazNXJipEY40 by festal@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-12-12T14:25:53Z
       
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       @tante True. But it's also a question of whether there are any constraining factors to capitalism's logic in place, or if they have all been removed. And it's the latter that @pluralistic talks about.
       
 (DIR) Post #B1BGw3l4ABuBkOsoUa by bituur_esztreym@pouet.chapril.org
       2025-12-12T14:33:52Z
       
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       @festal @tante @pluralistic as for "special place", the Internet has always been part of the real world: it's a heavy industry from the start.the cringe-er.. sorry-, clinging to the belief is a narrative, which the capitalism has massively used and abused
       
 (DIR) Post #B1BGw4iyZRpMkCuesC by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
       2025-12-12T18:36:36Z
       
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       @bituur_esztreym Internet things have become an ideology, and s bad one for very many people. @festal @tante @pluralistic