Post B13Re68e7Se09Gs3Jg by benjojo@benjojo.co.uk
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(DIR) Post #B13Re57BvNt0yTBNPU by benjojo@benjojo.co.uk
2025-12-08T23:43:12Z
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Ah yes, disk "S.M.A.R.T"# smartctl -x /dev/sddsmartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-6.1.0-32-amd64] (local build)Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===...Local Time is: Mon Dec 8 15:24:45 2025 GMT...=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED!Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.See vendor-specific Attribute list for failed Attributes.=====Left it for a bit, and=====# smartctl -x /dev/sddsmartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-6.1.0-32-amd64] (local build)Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===...Local Time is: Mon Dec 8 23:38:57 2025 GMT...=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
(DIR) Post #B13Re68e7Se09Gs3Jg by benjojo@benjojo.co.uk
2025-12-08T23:51:46Z
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Hard drives have this magic (and very annoying) ability to go from "I am doomed, dead, gonzo, curtains for me, rip, F in the chat" to "actually it turns out I had some spare sectors behind the sofa I forgot about, nvm, I am good now"For this reason, there is no spinning disk that isn't entirely 100% FDE'd because I _know_ the moment that I take it out of the machine it will somehow magically fix itself.At least when SSDs go they normally go out with some "supernova event" of either:hanging, sending weird ATA replies,replying with random pages of memory rather than data, falling off the bus and returning back as a new vendor with a capacity of 4MBbut at least at that point they don't come back to life!
(DIR) Post #B13Re7G7x8DrclNXcG by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-12-08T23:58:59Z
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@benjojo I saw a USB stick that forgot its USB id from laying unused in a warm place for a few yearsbut after a few plugs and unplugs it came back to life....
(DIR) Post #B13RvbPr5E684qGcHA by manawyrm@chaos.social
2025-12-08T23:55:34Z
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@benjojo ... may I suggest buying more Samsung SSDs and less KingDian, Transcend, etc.? 😹
(DIR) Post #B13RvcsxcUyQdOtNHU by benjojo@benjojo.co.uk
2025-12-08T23:59:50Z
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@manawyrm I have seen all of the above failures on even the fancy enterprise drives! The cheap ones do end up doing the "have some of my RAM instead" trick more often, but the rest is seemingly all up for grabs as far as failure modes goThe old Intel enterprise SSDs loved to do the "I am now a 4MB drive" trick
(DIR) Post #B13Rve3HHcowFgj808 by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-12-09T00:02:08Z
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@benjojo @manawyrm when they offer you their RAM instead, does that allow you overwrite their firmware? 🤔
(DIR) Post #B13S4coJGgo70Z0XVA by benjojo@benjojo.co.uk
2025-12-09T00:02:23Z
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@wolf480pl to be fair the average USB NAND flash is so bottom of the barrel that anything is seemingly possible.I have/had a USB drive on my desk for a couple of years, only to find that when I tried to read back a mp4 video on it, the video was totally stuffed... "cool".
(DIR) Post #B13S4eMNVVeXoVxGF6 by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2025-12-09T00:03:49Z
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@benjojo right, but if these can come back, I wouldn't rule out SSDs coming back too