Post B0v2dYb4m1d20F8P7w by nuukaset@netzsphaere.xyz
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(DIR) Post #B0urBUj2TXhwOKH8TY by vitalis@dirtyknight.life
2025-12-04T20:32:45.052033Z
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(DIR) Post #B0urGvI58NNsEJFrkG by f0x@dsmc.space
2025-12-04T20:33:45.772917Z
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@vitalis he was not ready for these questions.
(DIR) Post #B0urcu5SI29erqpWnQ by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-12-04T20:37:46.469506Z
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@f0x @vitalis https://youtu.be/j8ZF_R_j0OY
(DIR) Post #B0urwCZxlFCTioImOW by f0x@dsmc.space
2025-12-04T20:41:15.353030Z
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@toiletpaper @vitalis except it does. rather explicitly.
(DIR) Post #B0usCwPZ7pe2V9Q8Ia by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-12-04T20:44:17.224074Z
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@f0x @vitalis Prove it.
(DIR) Post #B0uvQMMCGrQGb6w1bM by f0x@dsmc.space
2025-12-04T21:20:18.356415Z
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@toiletpaper @vitalis tell me if I'm missing any other mentions that don't point to homosexuality specifically. If we're just talking about pre-marital sexual acts and within that anal it literally mentions fornicators and then sodomites by name. 1 Corinthians 6:9 "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,"
(DIR) Post #B0uwST9u3MSqE4kpo8 by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-12-04T21:31:54.800399Z
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@f0x @vitalis The only thing from that quote (and 1 Timothy 1:10) seems to apply is "sodomite". The contemporary interpretation (vis-a-vis KJV) applies that to the male who does the penetrating during male homosexual intercourse. However in the OT it also applies to "qadesh" (male temple prostitutes in Canaanite religion), such as described in Deuteronomy 23:17, 1 Kings 14:24, and 2 Kings 23:7. The word translated as "fornicator" (πόρνοι, pornoi) refers to premarital sex, adultery, prostitution, pimping, etc. It wasn't associated with anal sex, unless it involved male homosexuality. Ergo, no explicit prohibition in this context.
(DIR) Post #B0uwknQ9SSS8HR5qqm by f0x@dsmc.space
2025-12-04T21:35:12.312497Z
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@toiletpaper @vitalis homosexual is said explicitly in this verse, indicating that sodomy is a separate act. So no, sodomy is not explicitly an act of homosexuals, it is also regarding heterosexuals. The rule applies to everyone.
(DIR) Post #B0uwv8YTjgz6isv3K4 by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-12-04T21:37:05.288836Z
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@f0x @vitalis Like I said, sodomy refers to male temple prostitution in a Canaanite religion. The association with butt sex is a modern interpretation which is missing the original context of the term.
(DIR) Post #B0uyHhojPeHgPZqZ4C by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-12-04T21:52:22.619466Z
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@f0x @vitalis By the way, if you use the Greek word that got translated to sodomy (ἀρσενοκοίτης, arsenokoitai) it actually means homosexuality also. "arsenos" (man) and "koitē" (bed or sexual intercourse), meaning "man who lies with another man". The word used to translate homosexual actually translates as soft or gentle (μαλακοὶ, malakoi), essentially meaning an "effeminate" man. Again, nothing which explicitly prevents young women from having anal sex.
(DIR) Post #B0v0jgRUJlfoAERYZs by vitalis@dirtyknight.life
2025-12-04T22:19:40.280438Z
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I'm afraid you are mistaken. the Canaanite city of Sodom itself is ancient in origin to be sure, but the first known use of the actual word "sodomie" is from the era of medieval christendom. while people today associate sodomy to exclusively mean the engagement of homosexual acts, when the medieval church coined the word they meant for it to broadly cover all manner of sexual acts which did not result in procreation, and therefore such acts would make one as wicked as the people of Sodom.
(DIR) Post #B0v12dxLmkKBxJO5s8 by WandererUber@poa.st
2025-12-04T22:23:16.184823Z
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@vitalis @f0x @toiletpaper I really appreciate you posting a tiktok woman in tight clothing here, that really drives the point home
(DIR) Post #B0v1bSID8rFzuvkDzc by nuukaset@netzsphaere.xyz
2025-12-04T22:29:33.048454Z
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@vitalis @f0x @toiletpaper wow i didnt know i was a sodomite?
(DIR) Post #B0v1pEBgNjT0DzG4Nk by vitalis@dirtyknight.life
2025-12-04T22:31:54.624487Z
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if you want to use the word as it was originally intended, any medieval historian would tell you that sodomy applies to all foreplay including oral sex.
(DIR) Post #B0v2PoWgkhsLLuWs08 by nuukaset@netzsphaere.xyz
2025-12-04T22:38:39.920167Z
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@vitalis @f0x @toiletpaper OH! im a worser sodomite than expected.
(DIR) Post #B0v2RnnGRnDdewELPk by nuukaset@netzsphaere.xyz
2025-12-04T22:38:59.412952Z
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@Ash_Kvetchum @vitalis @f0x @toiletpaper into the bucket with ye
(DIR) Post #B0v2W0XgzOqQMDx5sW by ForbiddenDreamer@poa.st
2025-12-04T22:39:46.709041Z
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@nuukaset @vitalis @f0x @toiletpaper I don't believe you.
(DIR) Post #B0v2bIHkRuyypl0zZ2 by ForbiddenDreamer@poa.st
2025-12-04T22:40:43.856773Z
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@f0x @toiletpaper @vitalis Soooo... No butt stuff?
(DIR) Post #B0v2dYb4m1d20F8P7w by nuukaset@netzsphaere.xyz
2025-12-04T22:41:08.104465Z
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@ForbiddenDreamer @vitalis @f0x @toiletpaper ask your mother how i am with my tongue (sodomy)
(DIR) Post #B0v2morve2Ab4jQy5Q by ForbiddenDreamer@poa.st
2025-12-04T22:42:48.894135Z
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@nuukaset @vitalis @f0x @toiletpaper My momma says you gay
(DIR) Post #B0v2uIwEFJJIMR0xCy by nuukaset@netzsphaere.xyz
2025-12-04T22:44:09.550063Z
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@ForbiddenDreamer @vitalis @f0x @toiletpaper your mom gives the best dome in the county so ill respect it
(DIR) Post #B0v2xJW8Y6YF1fFG08 by ForbiddenDreamer@poa.st
2025-12-04T22:44:42.780891Z
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@nuukaset @vitalis @f0x @toiletpaper Don't I know it :WinkDee:
(DIR) Post #B0v36WXHW3kG0ZAjYm by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-12-04T22:46:21.815713Z
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@vitalis @f0x Interesting to know. I guess how you interpret it depends whether your belief system is based on the Biblical text (such that they're even coherent) or instead on localised institutional dogma from a millennium later. That said, most of what people today take for granted as Christian doctrine and Biblical text (in English) is actually just a few centuries old, if that.Speaking of medieval sexual morality though, you might be interested in this discussion/exposition of medieval Christmas carols. It specifically goes into the attitudes around sexuality in a religious context during that period, particularly in 15th-century (pre-reformation) Britain. The women in the video are both musicians and composers, but also PhD level scholars of the subject. Stef Conner's whole YT channel is a gold mine for that kinda stuff.https://youtu.be/NjPoqewOtDw
(DIR) Post #B0v3JnB4x9ztO277iK by sun@shitposter.world
2025-12-04T22:48:46.294368Z
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@toiletpaper @vitalis @f0x the story is the people said bring out your foreigners because we want to rape them, it seems tough to get away from a generalized prohibition on anal sex unless you take the nonconsensual angle I guess
(DIR) Post #B0v3KYsHcLU1Jdgn56 by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-12-04T22:48:55.133613Z
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@vitalis @f0x @nuukaset > the word as it was originally intendedLike I said, depends if you mean the actual text of the Bible (Greek and Hebrew), or the translation and it's bastardised interpretation in an institutional context a thousand years after the fact.
(DIR) Post #B0v3VfQRbLbeooxmqW by nuukaset@netzsphaere.xyz
2025-12-04T22:50:51.001183Z
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@toiletpaper @vitalis @f0x this is autistic obviously they mean the medieval persons reading of word not biblical one
(DIR) Post #B0v4GxYzyyamgPW1FA by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-12-04T22:59:27.313636Z
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@sun @f0x @vitalis Specifically the mob was going to rape the two angels (referred to as men) whom Lot had taken in as guests, and then later threatened to do even worst to Lot when he offered the mob his daughters to rape instead.So immediately the story implies homosexual sex. Also that this is considered far worse than offering your virgin daughters to be gang raped is notable. I feel concerned/contemptuous for people who fixate on the one act and not the other while posturing as moral authorities...
(DIR) Post #B0v4P4ywHjDS0WWL0i by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-12-04T23:00:56.312631Z
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@nuukaset @vitalis @f0x Considering the entire debate stemmed from my posting a joke about "the loophole"... 🤪
(DIR) Post #B0v4QKq6oQUzTizO4m by piggo@piggo.space
2025-12-04T22:57:07.623569Z
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@sun @vitalis @f0x @toiletpaper Well wanting to butt rape angels was perhaps a bit on the nose there
(DIR) Post #B0v4Z0Z1Z8VFCX8L8i by vitalis@dirtyknight.life
2025-12-04T23:02:32.100558Z
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the funniest loophole is the mormon practice of soaking :nervous:
(DIR) Post #B0v4erCvGXVnv6aJaS by nuukaset@netzsphaere.xyz
2025-12-04T23:03:46.665427Z
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@toiletpaper @vitalis @f0x oh i never read entire threads this place is instant messaging to me
(DIR) Post #B0v8QEYqYTH9p57d3o by Mark@nicecrew.digital
2025-12-04T23:45:27.130958Z
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@Ash_Kvetchum @vitalis @nuukaset @f0x @toiletpaper Ever since the Theology of the Body by John Paul II the Catholic Church deems oral and other times of stimulation acceptable only if it's a prelude to ordered sex (ponos in vagoo) and does not cause ejaculation.I'm always amused thinking about those old virgin (allegedly) dudes debating about what is technically holy in terms of sexual practices.
(DIR) Post #B0v9laHV5w8TDqkkWO by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-12-05T00:01:01.590756Z
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@Mark @vitalis @f0x @nuukaset @Ash_Kvetchum > what is technically holeyIFIFY