Post B0ktAPV8fcaEE7mkAi by karolherbst@chaos.social
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(DIR) Post #B0ktAPV8fcaEE7mkAi by karolherbst@chaos.social
2025-11-29T23:06:12Z
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So some people are wondering if whatever the MAGA/Linux crowed is up to is planned and on purpose.Yes, it is. They accuse us of what they would be doing themselves. Wayland, systemd, etc.. it's all a conspiracy to them _because_ it's the way the approach things and accuse us of the same.They always weaponize disagreements within the broader community for their political agendas. Every project of them is like this.It's sad to see how many do not understand those dynamics.
(DIR) Post #B0ktAQSh6CDpCpeJ04 by karolherbst@chaos.social
2025-11-29T23:12:00Z
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Every accusation of them is a self-revelation. Period. Every. Single. One.Also they weaponize political ideals to harm them. Things like "neutrality", or "everybody is welcomed" or "tolerance" you name it. They use those terms to undermine the ideals behind them and sow disagreement on purpose.Every technical disagreement is weaponized to not let us focus on the important things. And yes, most of the anti-whatever sentiments are reinforced by them.Don't fall for it.
(DIR) Post #B0ktARCmKr5LVlD6pc by karolherbst@chaos.social
2025-11-29T23:12:46Z
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You think it's a coincidence that 90% of the anti-systemd distros are lead by absolute shitheads? Think again...
(DIR) Post #B0ktAS3bATKu9ZvIA4 by karolherbst@chaos.social
2025-11-29T23:17:13Z
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Claiming that systemd is bad because of "being monolithic" or "not the UNIX way" or whatever random nonsense reason you come up with is all a political game whose purpose is to divide us.All those have _zero_ relevance. You are just made to believe they matter, even though they absolutely don't.Focus on the real technical problems, limitations, drawbacks. Not some artificial "tech ideals" that have no relevance.
(DIR) Post #B0ktWVGdud1ATtXVmS by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2025-11-30T01:11:53.781595Z
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Just install the wayland. It's for your security.
(DIR) Post #B0ktXjHfHizeF4bOvQ by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
2025-11-30T01:12:06.455770Z
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@karolherbst nigga what in gods name are you talking about
(DIR) Post #B0ktfPY6XgyTLtxFdQ by Junes@clubcyberia.co
2025-11-30T01:13:27.501397Z
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@karolherbst yeah me and 300 MAGA champions (disabled) are coming to rename all your software to something actually legible
(DIR) Post #B0ktj1EKtwG55SQcvA by parker@dsmc.space
2025-11-30T01:14:08.531621Z
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@karolherbst MAGA/Linux? What happened to GNU? You're gonna upset Stallman.
(DIR) Post #B0ktklrP17gBztXLo8 by gray@clubcyberia.co
2025-11-30T01:14:27.312977Z
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@Junes @karolherbst renaming systemd to bigpigd
(DIR) Post #B0ktrbULyfAxrC0vkO by syzygy@dsmc.space
2025-11-30T01:15:42.420558Z
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@karolherbst retarded
(DIR) Post #B0kuB7mc8Ck9WDrbCS by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2025-11-30T01:19:12.911412Z
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First, they came for the computers, and I said nothing.
(DIR) Post #B0kuL4ZUvVrWSDTKuu by gray@clubcyberia.co
2025-11-30T01:21:01.175645Z
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@karolherbst I like how you can't accept criticism of your software without resorting to ad hominem political arguments. Keep up the good work!
(DIR) Post #B0kuy0vyNuCGSyYN60 by mitchconner@clubcyberia.co
2025-11-30T01:28:03.149187Z
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@gray @karolherbst *uses Devuan and Artix harder*
(DIR) Post #B0kvPVu9LQosL3oUT2 by parker@dsmc.space
2025-11-30T01:33:02.024935Z
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@karolherbst >They always weaponize disagreements within the broader community for their political agendas>they weaponize political ideals to harm themDidn't you folks spend the last decade or two doing exactly this?
(DIR) Post #B0kvT62fRXXdHlVQZ6 by parker@dsmc.space
2025-11-30T01:33:40.794949Z
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@mitchconner @karolherbst @gray Can I use Mint and still be a chud?
(DIR) Post #B0kvT8QqYc4ShKplWy by taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org
2025-11-30T01:33:42.215248Z
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@RustyCrab @karolherbst He is reaching levels of political brainrot that were previously thought impossible.There is a potential link between systemd opposition and being right of center, which could be interesting to analyze, but to suggest that opposition to systemd is some sort of political conspiracy to divide people? Holy shit, bro needs to calm down.If you asked me, I'd say the link comes from the fact that "left" politics in the last 10+ years have become extremely conformist. People have to have all the same opinions, or else they're evil. And systemd was "pushed onto people" in a similar vein, I guess? So people who are drawn to being an oppositional, non-conformist person, happen to disfavor "left" politics and also disfavor systemd, due to an underlying personality trait.
(DIR) Post #B0kvn2QqZhIBsgKBqy by gray@clubcyberia.co
2025-11-30T01:37:16.431119Z
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@parker @karolherbst @mitchconner I use Debian. I don't care about their politics and they can't stop me from using it.
(DIR) Post #B0kw5sGcal7NrCWW4e by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2025-11-30T01:40:41.468258Z
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@karolherbst Man if only there was an OS I could use to never deal with this kind of stuff ever again
(DIR) Post #B0kwbLPyGAqZFAu20u by RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co
2025-11-30T01:46:19.906059Z
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@taylan @karolherbst I think they're just schizophrenic spergs tbh
(DIR) Post #B0kxyWfqfyQQlhwmRs by lina@eientei.org
2025-11-30T02:01:46.336602Z
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@RustyCrab @karolherbst >see someone talking utter nonsense related to linux and programming>look inside>rustmany such cases
(DIR) Post #B0l0vL6fWiLLt1fEo4 by mitchconner@clubcyberia.co
2025-11-30T02:34:45.476569Z
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@gray @parker @karolherbst it's very similar to that meme about not seeing color and color seeing you. You might not care about Debian's politics, but their politics are going to directly impact your experience as a user when they arbitrarily block packagers and developers.
(DIR) Post #B0l10Y1Wvd9bOckC8m by meowski@fluf.club
2025-11-30T02:35:43.670346Z
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@parker @karolherbst this reminds me to check on open mandriva, the explicitly non-woke distro
(DIR) Post #B0l2OwzHrhOZixtXsm by parker@dsmc.space
2025-11-30T02:51:21.826769Z
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@mitchconner @karolherbst @gray I'd see color if I could, but the GPU drivers are busted again.
(DIR) Post #B0l2pgsBt0sDZ5KI0e by gray@clubcyberia.co
2025-11-30T02:56:11.704115Z
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@mitchconner @karolherbst @parker I get it but I just need something that works out of the box. As long as the hardware works and it has a browser I'm good.
(DIR) Post #B0l34Yn6DYdYqI2F4y by mischievoustomato@tsundere.love
2025-11-30T02:58:53.016682Z
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@mitchconner @karolherbst @gray @parker and in debian's case they have awful tooling too
(DIR) Post #B0mMQ6n365Sseoxads by Nero@chaos.social
2025-11-30T15:03:53Z
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@karolherbst Bruh is this some meta joke. because what you are describing there, you are doing it right now yourself.Maybe lets start with this: other ppl dont act on malice. agree?
(DIR) Post #B0mMQ81cVOiMUImjzc by karolherbst@chaos.social
2025-11-30T15:10:00Z
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@Nero some people certainly do, and it's often from the MAGA/Linux crowdLike I've seen forks happening, because they didn't agree with projects advocating for respecting basic human rights and do it only based on culture war reasons.That's out of malice, because the inherent goal is to divide the community by claiming other reasons for their forks.It happened in the past and it will happen in the future.
(DIR) Post #B0mMQ98ONhj3vaxfBg by Nero@chaos.social
2025-11-30T15:11:36Z
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@karolherbst The systemd haters say the exact same thing? That systemd splits the community. You are just attributing the blame to the other side.
(DIR) Post #B0mMQ9iYDGeJjjsXY0 by karolherbst@chaos.social
2025-11-30T15:14:12Z
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@Nero there is a difference between choosing a different technical path because you see a different technical path as the more beneficial one, or because you think that not being UNIX is "woke and gay" and therefore it needs to be turned into a culture war.I don't see any reason why systemd was created to evoke a culture war. The opposite I have seen.Of course they claim systemd is EEE or wayland is "woke" and therefore culture war, but that was never the reason for those.
(DIR) Post #B0o7uaBlFSjZWiVo92 by eric@pl.starnix.network
2025-12-01T14:37:15.257171Z
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@RustyCrab @karolherbst this is why i use a macbook now... it's over...
(DIR) Post #B0q33wwHvB2lEmqFE0 by brimshae@poa.st
2025-11-30T02:14:18.984803Z
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@karolherbst I didn't realize it was Schitzo'clock. WTF are you on about?
(DIR) Post #B0q4DILjmqTCCXlWSW by toiletpaper@shitposter.world
2025-12-02T13:05:14.629750Z
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@karolherbst @Nero > projects advocating for respecting basic human rightsYou must mean the numerous projects who have a habit of throwing temper tantrums calling anyone/everyone who has the slightest different opinion a "racist", "fascist", "Nazi", <wgaf>-phobe, or similar, and summarily banning their contributions, including anyone who expresses concern about this kind of behaviour.> based on culture war reasonsDefinitely not the pot calling the kettle black...
(DIR) Post #B0q4jBUynHYsDiIJqC by coolboymew@shitposter.world
2025-12-02T13:11:00.314308Z
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@karolherbst @Nero >Project advocating for basic human rightsWhy is this a thing in free software in the first place? It's completely irrelevant
(DIR) Post #B0q6HmjwwB5xWSML9k by phnt@fluffytail.org
2025-12-02T13:28:26.985023Z
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@mitchconner @karolherbst @gray I enjoy using my current system, because it has a certain rare quirk called "it works"USE="-cuda -dbus -gtk -gnome -vala -gnome-keyring -glib -introspection -keyring -kwallet -jack -oss -policykit -wayland -xscreensaver -apparmor -selinux -ipv6 -zeroconf
(DIR) Post #B0q71Xa7d1vhpWa3DE by pettanko@tsundere.love
2025-11-30T03:35:59.127784Z
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@karolherbst listen here librul this is MAGA distro now
(DIR) Post #B0q7WHb56nD1ERgjKK by karolherbst@chaos.social
2025-11-30T12:34:33Z
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@ska the general issue here is, that those concepts always have a place. But like you also assume that systemd being more modular would be an advantage by saying that module is better just because.At which point it's not a great argument to have anymore and ceases to mean anything. Why do we need a more modular design at this point? Systemd can be this tightly integrated project and that's totally fine, even if it's not modular.It's great we have other init systems tho.
(DIR) Post #B0q7WJJQjOHIYHRf5k by karolherbst@chaos.social
2025-11-30T12:39:10Z
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@ska Like software isn't automatically better just because you can easily replace parts of it with something new following different design principles.But the point is, those kind of blanket statements do act to pretend having technical knowledge and does give grifters more power than they should have.I'd ask for more concrete and specific technical criticism, not "this project is bad because it violates the ideas I like personally, but which are academic in nature"
(DIR) Post #B0q7WKO4jbaVsycsyG by karolherbst@chaos.social
2025-11-30T12:42:26Z
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@ska But there is a fundamental reason why especially alt-right people are so drawn into the anti-systemd crowd: they declare arbitrary "technical" characteristics to declare what software is or isn't superior. "it's not modular, therefore it sucks" does follow fundamentally a supremacy mindset.They come up wiht a list of what software should be so they can declare their favorite project as the supremacy winner.That's the dynamic I'm talking about here.
(DIR) Post #B0q7WSa4GtvzIUIZm4 by karolherbst@chaos.social
2025-11-30T12:43:35Z
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@ska Like sure, would it be nice if you could replace bits of systemd? YesDoes it make it bad software if you can't? No it doesn't.Only if it starts to prevent you from doing actual demands it starts to become problem. But whether you get a system manager working by being modular or monolithic or whatever is entirely inconsequential to its quality.Mesa is totally not modular, but we also have nobody complain about it because it doesn't matter.
(DIR) Post #B0q7bTGf92CcsMbyCm by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
2025-12-02T13:43:01.593665Z
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@karolherbst OR AS I'VE RECENTLY TAKEN TO CALLING IT, MAGA+LINUXLINUX IS NOT AN OPERATING SYSTEM UNTO ITSELF, BUT MERELY ANOTHER FREE COMPONENT OF A FULLY FREE MAGA SYSTEM, AS DEFINED BY POSIX
(DIR) Post #B0q7t8OfTsEhMHmKCu by pettanko@tsundere.love
2025-12-02T13:41:00.507020Z
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@coolboymew @Nero @karolherbst it’s irrelevant culture war nonsense but only if you oppose it
(DIR) Post #B0qBBh1TmShhp9TOPA by nicholas@aklp.club
2025-12-02T14:23:20.003551Z
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Every technical disagreement is weaponized to not let us focus on the important things."Maybe the project should focus its resources on improving the software somewhat?""Shut up bigot, we're busy making pride themes!"
(DIR) Post #B0qIt7tqQbzdJQYlea by pettanko@tsundere.love
2025-12-02T15:48:25.355410Z
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@nicholas @Nero @coolboymew Ah you work for Mozilla I see.