Post B0grBz3Yz9N8FSfaYS by vinoth@infosec.exchange
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(DIR) Post #B0g5xDzuSO0aOjQBJw by interfluidity@zirk.us
2025-11-27T17:37:37Z
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Do you think democracy is a good idea? Why or why not? 1/
(DIR) Post #B0g5zs1gbOsL7jVurI by interfluidity@zirk.us
2025-11-27T17:38:06Z
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I ask because pretty everyone I interact with seems to self-identify as on the side of democracy, but a lot of people express cynicism about the electorate and the public’s capacity to participate in reasoned deliberation. the most straightforward implication would be democracy is a bad idea. 2/
(DIR) Post #B0g615ZHjtJbPeoJ8q by interfluidity@zirk.us
2025-11-27T17:38:20Z
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Do you support democracy anyway on purely negative grounds? (i.e. “it’s the worst system except for all the others that have been tried from time to time”) 3/
(DIR) Post #B0g63IHdR1bFQabe9Q by interfluidity@zirk.us
2025-11-27T17:38:43Z
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How do you reconcile the deficiencies of contemporary publics, as you perceive them, with a claim to being a stalwart for democracy? /fin
(DIR) Post #B0g6rbabvh29meTLFo by laprice@beige.party
2025-11-27T17:47:45Z
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@interfluidity several strands to pull at here.Is a public practicing democracy if it's poorly informed or deliberately misinformed?Is the primary purpose of democratic governance to legitimise the actions of the government?Is the purpose of democratic forms sttrictly a means of accessing the greater cognitive bandwidth of the group?
(DIR) Post #B0gALpf4TUDDydfCQS by CStamp@mastodon.social
2025-11-27T18:26:50Z
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@interfluidity Both things can be true: democracy, good; democracy, imperfect.When you talk to them, ask about their voting records. If more people were less complacent, took it less for granted, it would work better.
(DIR) Post #B0gF0PwlNxTfujXy2C by ZaneSelvans@social.coop
2025-11-27T19:18:57Z
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@interfluidity I think part of it is that the publics are not immutable. They change over time. And the techno-social/information environment also changes over time. They adapt to each other. We've had chaos at other discontinuities in communication technology. And then (hopefully) new norms and institutions grow up to mediate the relationship. But the combination we have right now is not doing great.
(DIR) Post #B0gF5bT7yT6B649qXw by mhjohnson@noauthority.social
2025-11-27T19:19:57Z
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@interfluidity The US is a republic and the word democracy doesn't appear in the US constitution.I see the online dictionaries allow the people to elect representatives and still call it a "democracy". Plus many pundits use the word "democracy" as long as their opinion is in the majority - making other statements when it doesn't go their way.If we had a way to force an election for all of the laws being imposed - I might go for that. It would certainly result in fewer laws.
(DIR) Post #B0gJC8502Zann9EuOG by eARCwelder@mastodon.social
2025-11-27T20:05:51Z
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@interfluidity I don’t what anti-democrats—assuming they’re liberals, not reactionaries—expect a practical good government to look like. Go-to “good” autocracy examples such as Singapore or China have many deficiencies and their success, such as it is, hapoened within a democracy-dominated world order. Technocracies, like Paul Krugman’s “we trade freely” cadre of economists that he imagined replacing the WTO long ago, would succumb to groupthink and wouldn’t be routinely accountable, either.
(DIR) Post #B0ghTbUULFNipc1jJw by mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca
2025-11-28T00:38:00Z
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@interfluidity I support #democracy for the reasons I gave here: https://cosocial.ca/@mpjgregoire/115612908820402767Viz.,* It keeps the rulers focused on serving the people,* It replaces one set of rulers with another periodically, * It results in a government open to criticism,* It encourages the public to see themselves as citizens with agency and responsibility.#politics
(DIR) Post #B0ghdsxEGdrjtDNB3Y by mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca
2025-11-28T00:39:53Z
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@interfluidity I support #democracy for the reasons I gave here: https://cosocial.ca/@mpjgregoire/115612908820402767Viz.,* It keeps the rulers focused on serving the people,* It replaces one set of rulers with another periodically, * It results in a government open to criticism,* It encourages the public to see themselves as citizens with agency and responsibility.The ideal regime features elements of democracy, aristocracy and monarchy, along with a general commitment to liberty under the law.#politics
(DIR) Post #B0grBz3Yz9N8FSfaYS by vinoth@infosec.exchange
2025-11-28T02:26:52Z
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@interfluidity The nice thing about democracy is that the electorate always get what they deserve. Which also means that, on a long enough time horizon, democracy is self-correcting.
(DIR) Post #B0h7Qhz6L5tMuXcrke by andrei_chiffa@mastodon.social
2025-11-28T05:28:49Z
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@interfluidity with Danton’s « Democracy works only if you have public education ». In the west we are just now dealing with the cynicism towards public education from 1970s and defunding of it in 1990s.
(DIR) Post #B0j59Q8hcfBh3AfJxo by admitsWrongIfProven@qoto.org
2025-11-29T04:12:43Z
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@interfluidity I took the cowards way, not concerning myself with labels. Democracy, schmehmocracy. What do words mean if being kind is twisted to mean exploitation? A good idea would be to try, try what is determined by those that try to understand.
(DIR) Post #B0qF8SdRDWmq9IwTtA by SteveRoth@mastodon.world
2025-12-02T15:07:33Z
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@interfluidity Democracy (popular election of leaders) is necessary to the world we want to live in. Unfortunately far from sufficient.